PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[SIPRA]

Yeh kaheen apna @Areesh to nhi ?

"Areesh Khan Mastan" is somewhat crude transliteration of "Erich von Manstein", who was a great German Field Marshal, during World War 2.

 

[Reichmarshal]

I already predicted such things will happened when Russia sold those Su-35 to PLAAF about 5 years ago.

like Tariq Aziz use to say
"washing machine aap ki hoi"

 

[Princeps Senatus]

So.....all going to No.15 squadron?

Why not raise a new squadron?

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Sir, lines of credit, commercial loans - all add up to costs. The above systems are all being paid for and a timeline is being followed. Ofc, costs are a major consideration.

I’m not suggesting there’s not a need for a twin engine jet, just that PAF is following a timeline where they need updates elsewhere first, given their finite resources.

So with updates you are suggesting V kits. Ahan ahan

 

[Aesterix]

Why not raise a new squadron?

There was one raised......comprising of Mirages ???

 

[Reichmarshal]

the only way PAF is buying any F 16 is if they come through CFS, of which the last time I checked the u.s owes Pakistan to the tune of around 10 billion $.
Now the spanner in the works......... as the u.s tells Pakistan that it can buy it all but has to come from our own pockets n not CFS.
Guess the Chief is going to the u.s to demand their pound of flesh which they owe PK

 

[arjunk]

Anyone take notice that the J-10 on the bottom doesn't seem to have A2A Refueling capability - atleast for now.

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I think similar to JF-17 II, the probe is removable.

 

[Ali_Baba]

the only way PAF is buying any F 16 is if they come through CFS, of which the last time I checked the u.s owes Pakistan to the tune of around 10 billion $.
Now the spanner in the works......... as the u.s tells Pakistan that it can buy it all but has to come from our own pockets n not CFS.
Guess the Chief is going to the u.s to demand their pound of flesh which they owe PK

Agree -why gve $10 billion to someone who has ratted out on paying the $10 billion they owe you... there is no trust given what the Americans have done with regards to repaying the CSF debt to Pakistan. It is a debt that is owed to Pakistan and not aid or anything else - a debt!!!

 

[Bossman]

the only way PAF is buying any F 16 is if they come through CFS, of which the last time I checked the u.s owes Pakistan to the tune of around 10 billion $.
Now the spanner in the works......... as the u.s tells Pakistan that it can buy it all but has to come from our own pockets n not CFS.
Guess the Chief is going to the u.s to demand their pound of flesh which they owe PK

Some technical level discussions have taken place. The J10s have landed, life will get very interesting if we hear something on additional F16s in the next few weeks or Months. Don’t take this seriously but things will become even more interesting if we hear about SU35s during IKs visit to Russia. Almost impossible but if it does happens than there will a serious sanitation issues in certain quarters in a particular national capital.

 

[kursed]

So with updates you are suggesting V kits. Ahan ahan

Lol. Who knows. But no I’m not.

 

[musaji]

Why do people think US would allow the sale of any F-16s (used, new blk 52 or 72) or any related upgrades (V) when they have refused to release Zulus, and worst have even refused to allow the export license for T129 engines to Pakistan for which it was going to pay out of its pocket. I do believe it was something evaluated against the indian Rafael acquisition and compared to J10C. PAF eventually decided to the Chinese route and new F16 are now history (for sometime now).

 

[Enigma SIG]

Why do people think US would allow the sale of any F-16s (used, new blk 52 or 72) or any related upgrades (V) when they have refused to release Zulus, and worst have even refused to allow the export license for T129 engines to Pakistan for which it was going to pay out of its pocket. I do believe it was something evaluated against the indian Rafael acquisition and compared to J10C. PAF eventually decided to the Chinese route and new F16 are now history (for sometime now).

A love affair now put to rest. Ah those Falcon 4.0 days.

 

[Trailer23]

...but things will become even more interesting if we hear about SU35s during IKs visit to Russia.

I wouldn't give it too much thought. It'll open another can of worms if we start dealing with the Russians when we are apparently taking the US into confidence over PMIK's visit to Russia.

Have people forgotten about CAATSA and what the repercussions are if you deal with the Russia directly? Turkey is an example.

Yes, India will get a pass for acquiring the S-400 (eventually) - but only because the US wants to...
a. Do business with India
b. Wants India in its corner against China

As for people brining up new Block 70/72's - I beg of you to give it a rest. I have given proof/evidence over & over that the launch customer (Bahrain) will receive delivery in 2024. And that's just the launch customer. There are a lot of Countries on the waiting list that if PAF placed the order today, don't expect anything before 2028.

However..., if we do discuss F-16's then it can only be in the conversation of: Used

 

[TsAr]

Sir any major shock on 23rd March. Keep in mind J-10, SH15, HQ 9, Z-10 ME are now known. I mean totally new surprise ?

Maulana ais dafa 23 march par ap shadi ka ilan kar ka sab ko surprise kar dain.

 

[Raja Porus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1493863082480787457

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