PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[SABRE]

Controversies because of the individual not the concept of cds.
Modi has slowed down in his zeal for bureaucratic reform . For the 1st time in India, bureaucrats were fired for non performance. But its impossible to fight these guys , they know the inside out of the system and can paralyze any initiative.
And it's not only corruption, a lot due to incompetence.
I know of cases where defense personnel have to push proposals through a babu who was just shifted from postal services to the defense department. He is terrified of taking a decision as he doesn't have a iota of knowledge.

Essentially you are correct. The Organizational Structure Model applied to any country's structure will reveal conservatism, corruption, and incompetency working side-by-side. One cannot be rejected for the other. Bureaucratic politics, embedded with individual idiosyncrasies based on both personal and professional experiences and opinions, are also inherent flaws to state's structures. Discussion on this will drag on and divert the focus of the thread. Perhaps, it could be discussed in a different place?

 

[redgriffin]

Just hope they don’t call it F-10. Too many Islamabadi memes.

F-10 has a special place in many hearts especially the back end of the Markaz

 

[Windjammer]

Did the C always have a IRST?
Either way, it is the culmination of a process started in 2004-6 when the first PAF team started looking at the J-10A.

Yes apart from the DSI, the IRST featured on the 10 Charlie prototype.
When some close ups shot appeared, I first thought it was Fulcrum or Flanker.

 

[TopGun786]

Does anyone still remember this from last year? Next time you scoff at a cartoon for leaking defense information, remember this.

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Yes. And there was news from an even earlier date.

 

[PanzerKiel]

 

[Areesh]

For sure, it has IRST and WS-10B.

So IRST confirmed too?

 

[RealNapster]

You might have heard about a liar who cried ``sher aaya sher aaya`` or cried ``wolf!! wolf!!``. Its hard for me to believe a minister with countless failed truths under his belt for a stretegic prediction thats why skeptical till the end.

Ary yar aap na Mano teak Hy.

 

[Trailer23]

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apni apni methai utha lo bhaion...

Ladoo ko koi haat na lagey...

Wo @Zarvan bhai kay leya RESERVED hai.

 

[Zarvan]

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Sir any major shock on 23rd March. Keep in mind J-10, SH15, HQ 9, Z-10 ME are now known. I mean totally new surprise ?

 

[PanzerKiel]

Sir any major shock on 23rd March. Keep in mind J-10, SH15, HQ 9, Z-10 ME are now known. I mean totally new surprise ?

I thought you didnt give a damn.

10 soldiers martyred, 1militant killed and 3 apprehended when BLF attacked military check post in Balochistan's Kech district

Ok then....list of PA generals is here.... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serving_generals_of_the_Pakistan_Army You can find every one there...please choose your pick....atleast let us know which is that person whom you think enjoys your confidence, who can solve all our problems...

defence.pk

 

[Zarvan]

I thought you didnt give a damn.

10 soldiers martyred, 1militant killed and 3 apprehended when BLF attacked military check post in Balochistan's Kech district

Ok then....list of PA generals is here.... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serving_generals_of_the_Pakistan_Army You can find every one there...please choose your pick....atleast let us know which is that person whom you think enjoys your confidence, who can solve all our problems...

defence.pk

I give a dam about both weapons and soldiers. And I hope they are used not just inducted. Iran and Afghanistan are going to do nothing. Secondly instead of using Artillery on TTP which we did yesterday I hope drones are used. I am angry on loosing 25 soldiers and our enemies sleeping happily. What I don't give a dam about is when we see just photo ops and no action. Take action Sir hit them in their hideouts in a big ruthless way plus increase the pain for their ABBA G our neighbor in the east.

Just look at faces of soldiers who fought as this public forum I won't say further but until leaderships avenges their brothers in a big drastic way I am seeing their morale getting badly affected and I hope I am wrong totally wrong.

That being said can we expect a total surprise on 23rd March and a big surprise or not ?

 

[Mohsin123]

Ary yar aap na Mano teak Hy.

ijazat ka sukriya bhai

 

[PanzerKiel]

I am seeing their morale getting badly affected

I might have seen some really real fighting in couple of hotspots for maybe four years, might have killed more real enemies than you, lost some good friends and comrades on the way, however, what you have seen (morale getting effected, as quoted above), this thing i havent seen myself in the last two decades.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

So who is going to lead the fly past on 23rd? Have we ordered the dual seaters? If not, then I guess it will be F sola again.

 

[Zarvan]

I might have seen some really real fighting in couple of hotspots for maybe four years, might have killed more real enemies than you, lost some good friends and comrades on the way, however, what you have seen (morale getting effected, as quoted above), this thing i havent seen myself in the last two decades.

Sir I hope you are right and I am wrong. My only wish is seeing less and less of our soldiers in coffins and more our enemies specially the neighbor in the east. They really need to pay the price. Until they face similar attacks for every attack here they won't stop training, financing, and supporting these scumbags.