PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[messiach]

Congradulations @All

 

[Shotgunner51]

Congradulations @All

I think it's too early to cheer for (or hate) the deal, this rumour is not confirmed thus far. It originated from Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed saying "J-10 will attend the Pakistan Day ceremony on 23 March 2022", it does not exclude the possibility that he actually meant "J-10 (of PLAAF)" till this very moment. Judging by observations and some facts, in my opinion no such deal can possibly be made.

 

[Windjammer]

This rumour is not confirmed thus far. It originated from Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed saying "J-10 will attend the Pakistan Day ceremony on 23 March 2022", it does not exclude the possibility that he actually meant "J-10 (of PLAAF)" till this very moment. Judging by observations and some facts, in my opinion no such deal can possibly be made.

He also said that Pakistan or rather PAF acquired these to counter the Rafales.
Which leaves out any other possibilities.

 

[HRK]

I think it's too early to cheer for (or hate) the deal, this rumour is not confirmed thus far. It originated from Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed saying "J-10 will attend the Pakistan Day ceremony on 23 March 2022", it does not exclude the possibility that he actually meant "J-10 (of PLAAF)" till this very moment. Judging by observations and some facts, in my opinion no such deal can possibly be made.

I as per non-official version of J-10 story the agreement for J-10 was signed in the last quarter of the 2020 .... you can consider it rumore or unsubstantiated reports.

 

[Shotgunner51]

He also said that Pakistan or rather PAF acquired these to counter the Rafales.
Which leaves out any other possibilities.

I as per non-official version of J-10 story the agreement for J-10 was signed in the last quarter of the 2020 .... you can consider it rumore or unsubstantiated reports.

I agree with you these are signs/intel that suggest the deal could be real, though I am still skeptical citing other signs/factors.

 

[Windjammer]

I agree with you these are signs/intel that suggest the deal could be real, though I am still skeptical citing other signs/factors.

Well the other hunch is the DG ISPR press conference, he could have outrightly denied the affair instead he played it down by commenting that inducting of J-10 is just a routine matter.

 

[Shotgunner51]

Well the other hunch is the DG ISPR press conference, he could have outrightly denied the affair instead he played it down by commenting that inducting of J-10 is just a routine matter.

Yes I've seen his response towards this question raised by a reporter as well, his first response was "I can't confirm anything on that account ...", then followed by an apparently PR-type response (no specifics mentioned) that serves a general reassurance to the public aka PAF is always in control of the situation vis-a-vis IAF threat. Since that's not a prepared statement but responding to a report's question, I tend to put more weight on his first/instantaneous response.

 

[Scorpiooo]

Dought to have 25 J10s jet flypast on 23 march.

Secondly 25 jets is not PAF sqr size numbers at all

 

[maverick1977]

Found some pictures, not sure about their authenticity.
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Let's admit that:j-10 is designed for air combat, interception task, not so good at carrying a lot payloads.
But I do believe PAF could get help from China to increase the Air to Surface capacities of it (What is urgent and most important for PAF is still to encounter the Rafaels) . LDBs , SDBs, whatever.These are really easier than aircraft designing.
Relax guys, actually we will get more information about j-10's capacities after PAF get it. They must be eagerness to show us.

Damn, 11 hardpoints, thats massive, do we know the 11 hardpoint max loading? is the engine 132KN and above?

 

[Qmjd]

You ate back

Congradulations @All

Great

 

[Windjammer]

 

[tphuang]

I think it's too early to cheer for (or hate) the deal, this rumour is not confirmed thus far. It originated from Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed saying "J-10 will attend the Pakistan Day ceremony on 23 March 2022", it does not exclude the possibility that he actually meant "J-10 (of PLAAF)" till this very moment. Judging by observations and some facts, in my opinion no such deal can possibly be made.

Chinese side have said since last year that not only is there an order, but that PAF requested for it to be delivered very urgently. Again, my point about delivery timeframe is a great factor for J-10C. That's the difference between getting a mature aircraft vs getting one that has still a lot of work to do. PAF is essentially going from signing the contract to taking delivery of 25 in a year.

For most aircraft producers out there, you need a much greater lead-time. So, I would not be surprised if PLAAF deferred some of its own orders so that PAF can get them first.

Depending on PAF's experience with J-10 over time, they may request for another order in the future with greater lead time and more PAF specific requirements. Certain design decision made for J-10 is based on PLAAF requirements in the 80s. So, it's been mostly an air superiority aircraft over its life time. In its current role with PLAAF, it really doesn't have the role of multi-role aircraft either. So maybe PAF will find over time that it wants certain changes with J-10C like a two seat version that's better suited for multi-role purposes. Regardless of how much you do with JF-17, it has certain size limitations that cannot be overcome. So if PAF does enjoy its first batch of J-10Cs, I think the next order will probably have some changes that make use of its greater size and thrust over JF-17 and F-16s.

 

[waz]

Does anyone know what roughly the engine overhaul interval time is for the WS-10B?
@Shotgunner51
@Deino

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Scorpiooo]

Whats is operational cost per hour for J10?