Opposition to Islamic Caliphate thread

[Mosamania]

You are a Kaffir. You openly demoralize Muslims because you're hiding behind protection of Americans and Israelis who make same allegations you do. You can see on this forum who is supporting you. People that the Muslims of Kashmir, Palestine, Iraq, Syria , Chechyan, etc... People that support besieiging us and demoralizing us. Let alone your other personal beliefs which I don't have time to get into you.

يشهد على ربي انك كافر ومنافق خزاك الله

I believe in Justice and I believe religion comes far behind justice. Also I am hiding behind America and Israel? What? Are you serious? Are you with complete mental capacity? Oh yeah sure sorry I forgot the smartest and most genius and brilliant people who ever lived is Hamas . Sorry.

 

[Mutakalim]

i hate caliphate

what about islam?

 

[Imran Khan]

what about islam?

i have no problem islam was good till its fall in hands of such uneducated stone age animals like usama - mullah umer - baghdadi

 

[TankMan]

Apart from groups like ISIS there are other factors too like westernization of society, illiteracy towards sharia etc.

Yes, misinformation about Islam is exactly why groups like ISIS exist and take advantage of it.

Muslims must be educated about Islam, but not through politically-motivated takfiri Mullahs. One side is Westernized Secularism and the other Takfiri Mullah-ism. I am opposed to both - we must take a middle path.

 

[ptldM3]

Muslims are not the only people that live in predominantly Muslim countries, a caliphate would not be fair to minorities, in fact it is pure discrimination. This would be no different if Muslims living in western countries would not be allowed to attend mosques, they would be forced to dress a certain way, they would be forced to pay fines, ect.

If many Muslims were upset about a cartoon imagine if they were subject to live under the same type of discrimination that they dish out to others.

 

[C130]

You are a Kaffir. You openly demoralize Muslims because you're hiding behind protection of Americans and Israelis who make same allegations you do. You can see on this forum who is supporting you. People that the Muslims of Kashmir, Palestine, Iraq, Syria , Chechyan, etc... People that support besieiging us and demoralizing us. Let alone your other personal beliefs which I don't have time to get into you.

يشهد على ربي انك كافر ومنافق خزاك الله

your friends ISIL and HAMAS are no better than the people you think are attacking you.
you should buy a plane ticket to Turkey and cross in Syria. you would make a good spokesman for ISIL.

trading one oppressor for another.

 

[SHAMK9]

It's amazing how so called 'Muslims ' would side with unislamic regimes that belong to single tribes and would abandon God and his Prophet whilst doing so. You people need to rethink what you're doing.

Says the man living in United States, hypocrisy knows no bounds. Time to move ahead, not look back in the past for Chaliphat. As for me, i'm agnostic by choice.

 

[Mutakalim]

So what's new with your local Iranian cultural centre? Any new operations or propaganda goals for these next few days you can give up the scoop on?

Well let’s be clear.
In my opinion these two regimes are the greatest enemies of Islam. They are menace to Muslim. If Muslim wants to end that bloodshed they should eradicate these dictatorial regimes. Dictatorship and Islamic system of government has no relation.

 

[Falcon29]

Says the man living in United States, hypocrisy knows no bounds. Time to move ahead, not look back in the past for Chaliphat. As for me, i'm agnostic by choice.

Yes I live in United states, how does that make me hypocrite? I live United States and stand up for my beliefs. You live in Pakistan and abandon them.

 

[Mutakalim]

i have no problem islam was good till its fall in hands of such uneducated stone age animals like usama - mullah umer - baghdadi

fine. Thanks to clarify

 

[Falcon29]

your friends ISIL and HAMAS are no better than the people you think are attacking you.
you should buy a plane ticket to Turkey and cross in Syria. you would make a good spokesman for ISIL.

trading one oppressor for another.

I have no interest in going Syria. ISIS is irrelevant to me. Don't confuse me for low iq Muslims.

 

[SHAMK9]

Yes I live in United states, how does that make me hypocrite? I live United States and stand up for my beliefs. You live in Pakistan and abandon them.

How did I abandon my beliefs if i'm agnostic by choice?

 

[Falcon29]

Well let’s be clear.
In my opinion these two regimes are the greatest enemies of Islam. They are menace to Muslim. If Muslim wants to end that bloodshed they should eradicate these dictatorial regimes. Dictatorship and Islamic system of government has no relation.

You're speaking to a hypocrite. He's anti Shia regimes but pro 'Sunni' regimes. I'm against both that I see enemies to Islam. People like him are busy flooding FB with claims that Iran sent chemical weapons to Houthis to use on Saudi Arabia.

These guys don't even respect their populations and constantly use propaganda techniques to brainwash them. And when you oppose them they just openly side with Israel and make false allegations as if that's supposed to scare us.

How did I abandon my beliefs if i'm agnostic by choice?

Yes by choice, so you abandoned your beliefs. But you admit to doing so and therefore I don't judge you. On other hand, people that claim to be Muslims and oppose Muslims and make gibberish lies against Muslims because they prefer a regime over Islamic rule are the people I judge. The problems in ME are bigger than you think. We have some of worse hypocrities and people who use our religion as tool yet accuse us of doing so.

 

[TankMan]

Muslims are not the only people that live in predominantly Muslim countries, a caliphate would not be fair to minorities, in fact it is pure discrimination. This would be no different if Muslims living in western countries would not be allowed to attend mosques, they would be forced to dress a certain way, they would be forced to pay fines, ect.

If many Muslims were upset about a cartoon imagine if they were subject to live under the same type of discrimination that they dish out to others.

You seem to believe an Islamic Caliphate means that. It does not. A Caliph must be chosen by consensus, then assemblies like the Majlis e Shura (Parliament, basically) must be formed and the cornerstone of all this is Justice for minorities and majority alike.

How is it any different to Democracy? If the majority wants Caliphate, it is no more discriminatory to minorities than Western Democracy is.

The issue, of course, is that today's idea of a Caliphate is completely different from what it's supposed to be - admittedly, Muslims themselves have completely wrong concepts regarding this.

@SaG E Jillani88 This is a good example of why people oppose the idea of a Caliphate. They assume it's discriminatory, and Muslims ourselves have created this assumption because most of us aren't informed enough about Islam and the Caliphate system in particular.

 

[Mutakalim]

You're speaking to a hypocrite. He's anti Shia regimes but pro 'Sunni' regimes. I'm against both that I see enemies to Islam. People like him are busy flooding FB with claims that Iran sent chemical weapons to Houthis to use on Saudi Arabia.

These guys don't even respect their populations and constantly use propaganda techniques to brainwash them. And when you oppose them they just openly side with Israel and make false allegations as if that's supposed to scare us.

They are Kharjis. Kharjis has nothing to do with sunnis.