Gen. Hafiz Asim Munir! Please bring about Islamic System of Khilafat!

[Maira La]

Lol you are completely ignorant about Hinduism. Seems you picked up all your knowledge from what you were taught about evil Hindus in Pakistan Studies in school.

At least we have our own schools (Madrasa) and Laws (Sharia). What do you have?
You appear to have lots of knowledge, show me what Hindu law from Hindu scriptures say about Hindu marriage. Don't hide behind Western values.

 

[Maira La]

Hinduism as a religion focusses on the spiritual relationship between man and God. Personal law practices are not a major part of the religion.

Civilizations are based on legal codes. That's the most basic criteria for a society to pass as a civilization. For all the tall claims about being some ancient civilization, where are your legal codes? You have none, so as I said there are only 3 civilizations surviving today - Western, Chinese, and Islamic. Your old laws were based on Islamic, now they are based on Western.

I suppose as a Muslim it may be novel idea to you that Hinduism doesn't impose rules and restrictions on all aspects of an individual's life,

Rules and restrictions are the basis of civilization, we're not cave men who are free to do anything we want, f*** anyone we want, steal whatever we want. Murderers need to be killed, rapists need to be killed. Law and justice requires disciplining, enforcement, cruelty as needed. Your ancient Hinduism "allows everything" does not work in the modern world, which is why you rely on colonial era Europeans laws, despite all the bullshit about Dharmic better than Abrahamic.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

I haven't expressed my own opinions; I've merely quoted what Zakir Naik, Mufti Tariq Masood, and various other Islamic scholars have reiterated numerous times. If you consider these statements as disrespectful to the Prophet of Islam, it's these Islamic scholars who should be held accountable.

No comprehensive scholarship has been done in regard to Aisha's age. They regurgitate Hadith (from single source transmission) which they call scholarship.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Hindu Code Bill is not based on Hindu scriptures. It's Western values. Why call it Hindu? You don't have laws of your own, ancient shupapowa?



Nothing in the Hindu scriptures say the girl cannot marry someone older. Marriages in pre-Islamic India were always between minor girl and a guy much older than her.

Hindu society finds it repugnant for a 54-year-old man to engage in sexual activity with a child under the age of six or nine, and such a person is likely to be killed. Not only is it forbidden by the Hindu Code Bill, but Hindu society also finds it repulsive. For Islamic society, this is not the case.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Hindu society finds it repugnant for a 54-year-old man to engage in sexual activity with a child under the age of six or nine, and such a person is likely to be killed. Not only is it forbidden by the Hindu Code Bill, but Hindu society also finds it repulsive. For Islamic society, this is not the case.

It's cultural phenomenon. Quran is clear regarding marriage. Every culture has something repugnant, including Hindu culture. Killing or lynching human beings to protect cows which humans eat is extremely repugnant.

 

[R2D2]

We are not interested in Hinduism at all and don't want to discuss it here. Plz make a separate thread for Hindu marriage laws and Prophet Mohammad SAW marriages. Plz don't derail the thread which seems to be your objective. Gandhi was married at the age of 13 and thus lost a year at school. A diffident child, he shone neither in the classroom nor on the playing ... Source Brittanica https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mahatma-Gandhi/Place-in-history

This topic is about bringing about the Khilafah in Pakistan through peaceful means. Hindus benefitted from Islamic Economic Laws during Sultanat and Mughal times as India was one of the World's richest countries when Britishers occupied it.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Lynching people is not part of Hindu culture. The Hindus who indulged in such acts are prosecuted under the law.

Who are you kidding. Lynching is common among Hindus backed by the same religious and political demagoguery which got the government elected. Lynching is a phenomenon among Pakistanis and Bangladeshis as well. As for marriage, minimum age for marriage of male and female in Saudi Arabia is 18 years. In Iran, land of Aryans, girls can get married at 13, boys at 15.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Is burning of Churches and killing of Christians common in Pakistan? Just because some people commit a crime it does not mean it is a common occurrence.

And thank you proving the point that even Saudi Arabia does follow the legal code that was followed during Riyasat e Medina.

In India, the ruling party cannot crack down on Hindu extremism. The party is built on extremism and is very popular.

 

[AlKardai]

I haven't expressed my own opinions; I've merely quoted what Zakir Naik, Mufti Tariq Masood, and various other Islamic scholars have reiterated numerous times. If you consider these statements as disrespectful to the Prophet of Islam, it's these Islamic scholars who should be held accountable.

If you're quoting Zakir Naik as a Scholar of Islam, that's very worrying

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

A big factor is alcohol and drug abuse by fathers killing their kids for stupid reasons

Send them to a madrssa if u can't feed them

Madrasa is not safe place . Bacha baazi /child abuse is common. Read the newspapers

 

[AZMwi]

Be very fucking careful what you wish for, he might do it!!

why you afraid??

پھر لونڈے بازی بھی آ جائے گی

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مرزا جو ہوتا خدا کا نبی
تو ٹٹی میں گر کر نہ مرتا کبھی

پھر لونڈے بازی بھی آ جائے گی

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Ahmadi leader sent to jail in the US after confessing to raping boy

Muneeb-ur-Rehman Ahmed was facing three charges of sexual assault of a child and three charges of indecency with a child by sexual contact.

www.aajenglish.tv

Ahmadi leader sent to jail in the US after confessing to raping boy​

 

[AZMwi]

پھر لونڈے بازی بھی آ جائے گی

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https://www.reddit.com/r/islam_ahmadiyya/comments/s34god

Article: More sexually abused Ahmadis come forward—this time men

پھر لونڈے بازی بھی آ جائے گی

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[PradoTLC]

Gen. Hafiz Asim Munir! Please bring about Islamic System of Khilafat!​

Since Pakistan was created or maybe for this reason it was created to perform American Slavery for the last 75 years. Now when America has got India to do its bidding we have started China’s slavery. But even that is not enough for the opulent lifestyle of the rulers that we are now finding investors from UAE and Saudi Arabia to buy our national assets.

All those experiments which have failed for the last 75 years are being repeated in a new paradigm and it is being observed even now that the present experiments will fail too.

Instead of repeating our mistakes again and again why don’t we bring about the Islamic System of Khilafat and unite Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Central Asia, Turkey and Arabia through it in the form of a Confederation just like the European Union (EU). First make the Confederation and then convert it into a full-fledged Khilafat over time.

Capitalism has failed repeatedly in Pakistan since the last 75 years. Socialism experiment brought about by Bhutto also failed miserably and derailed the economy. These two systems have failed in other countries as well and have not delivered humanity from hunger and poverty.

Islamic Economic System is much better than Capitalism and Socialism and solves the problems of the poor without crucifying the rich. We have seen its example in Islamic history when during Khilfat when there were Zakat distributors but there was no one to receive Zakat. The closest model of Islamic economy system can be seen in Norway and Sweden where a mix of Capitalism and Socialism is present and the poor are happy.

When we create a Confederation then we will get unlimited resources in the form of oil, gas, minerals, agricultural goods and we will not need World Bank, IMF, America or China.

For this purpose, we can strengthen OIC or ECO and also do a joint defense pact. The Atomic power of Pakistan will ensure that all member states are protected from threats.

The main demand of Pakistan Army has been to increase its budget. When ten or twenty countries combine then the budget will be increased automatically but then they will have to fight too.

The system of Khilafat was started by the Sahaba RA of Hazrat Mohammad SAW and was ruling successfully over a huge area in Arabia, Asia and Africa until 1924. Pakistan has got the capability to lead the Muslim Ummah now. When we can ourself become the leaders of this region then why we should we do slavery of America and China. We can form alliances with World Powers but should not do slavery.

Both the Islamic Block with its resources and Islamic Economic Model with its just distribution will improve the economy of the region.

General sb! Why look for outside imported systems when the Quran is all written in your heart!

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seriously what do you smoke?

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

If you're quoting Zakir Naik as a Scholar of Islam, that's very worrying

I occasionally have the impression that Zakir Naik is actually an ex-Muslim posing as a Muslim. He once referred to the prophet of Islam using the pejorative Hindi name malechha. A former imam of Islam that I once met claimed that many maulanas and muftis who instruct in madrassas are Ex Muslims who purposefully use these hadiths to inform both Muslims and non-Muslims about the true nature of Islam. According to him, the majority of Muslims would renounce their faith if the holy books of Islam were translated and distributed to them.

 

[AlKardai]

I occasionally have the impression that Zakir Naik is actually an ex-Muslim posing as a Muslim. He once referred to the prophet of Islam using the pejorative Hindi name malechha. A former imam of Islam that I once met claimed that many maulanas and muftis who instruct in madrassas are Ex Muslims who purposefully use these hadiths to inform both Muslims and non-Muslims about the true nature of Islam. According to him, the majority of Muslims would renounce their faith if the holy books of Islam were translated and distributed to them.

Yeah whatever, say less.
Zakir Naik is an Orator. He is by no reason a scholar or even a specifically Learned man. He doesn't properly understand or speak Arabic, for example.

And your point about Naik being an ex Muslim is invalid, as he's brought more people into the fold of Islam than repelled away from it.

"True nature of Islam"
Mate, you clearly have no idea what the true nature is, except from the distorted lens purported by the Indian media.