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UPDATE- ZARB –E- AZB
17JUNE 2014


  1. 6 x Terrorist’s hideouts including a training camp and an IED making factory around Hasokhel, North Waziristan Agency were destroyed by jet aircrafts early morning today. 25 x foreign and local terrorists were killed in the strikes. More details of strikes to follow.
  2. Operation in North Waziristan Agency is progressing as per plan. The Cordon around all terrorists’ hideouts including in the town of Mirali and Miranshah has been further tightened and reinforced. Last night 3 x terrorists were killed while fleeing from the cordoned off area in Miranshah. 1 x soldier got injured in exchange of fire.
  3. No operation in built up area has been started so far to ensure following:-
    a. No terrorist can escape the cordon.
    b. All innocent civil population is safely evacuated after their detailed verification.
  4. Necessary Logistics and administrative arrangements for IDPs have been completed by Political Administration and Disaster Management Agency. Security of IDP camp being ensured by Army troops.
  5. Air surveillance of the Operational area with the help of own surveillance assets continues.
 
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This is COIN warfare not a conventional war. We have to be very very surgical and extremely politically correct. The next on the target scope are Punjabi Taliban. Once we are done with North Waziristan, we will go after them in urban areas.

Its is only NS, who gave orders most probably. Earlier Zardari and the party were busy in something else, when Mehran happened and Marriot happened.
India had also been saying past so many years that Pakistan has become breeding ground of terror.

And who told you the terrorists were roaming inside Pakistan. We have been trying to take care of them.

Anyways there are 187 less to worry about.

Then what operation Zarb e Azb is for? I follow, DAWN, Geo, Ary, and the news of explosions and terror strikes were becoming common.
 
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#Zarb-e-Azb:Operation in populated area not started yet so terrorists cant escape cordon & innocent civilian population is safely evacuated- AsimBajwaISPR

#Zarb-e-Azb:Operation in populated area not started yet so terrorists cant escape cordon & innocent civilian population is safely evacuated- AsimBajwaISPR
 
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Looks like the tactic is to first soften up targets by airstrikes and keep a cordon...then get the boots on the ground.
Some surrender points have also been established so they have a chance to see the daylight again.
 
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Could any military background members advice as to, in a nutshell, what long term goals the army wants to achieve and how they might plan on achieving those.

In the short term, it's obvious the ttp won't put up a heavy resistance. They're gonna run and hide like they always do; survive. PA is gonna gain control of NW in a matter of days. But then it's also evident that ttp will resurface. They will retaliate in small splinter groups, on army, police and soft targets throughout the country. What plans, if any, are in place to counter and neutralize those attacks.

Basically, will ttp and the likes of them be able to form another base to breed and launch attack from after this opetation.
 
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BBC News - Will Pakistan go all out against militants?

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Pakistan's military operation to clear al-Qaeda and Taliban militants from its side of the Afghan border has long been demanded by Kabul and Washington.

Troops are now on alert in Pakistan's towns and cities after Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif approved the offensive in North Waziristan.

A military statement quoting army chief Gen Raheel Sharif said it was aimed at eliminating "all terrorists and their sanctuaries" in the tribal area.

But there are questions which will be answered only as the operation unfolds.

For one, the military has only been conducting air raids in the region so far, and there is no evidence yet of any boots on the ground.

And, the air raids have targeted only Central Asian fighters and Pakistani Taliban (TTP), both known for their animosity towards Pakistan.

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The operation is aimed at militants in the Shawal region of Waziristan

The question is, will there be strikes against the feared Haqqani network and two militant groups native to Waziristan which have thus far mainly focused attacks on Afghanistan?

One of these, the Hafiz Gul Bahadur group, controls North Waziristan, and has played host not only to the Haqqani network and the TTP franchise, but also to militants from the Middle East, Central Asia and parts of Pakistan.

The Mullah Nazir group - named after its commander who was killed in a US drone strike last year - controls the Wana region of South Waziristan, and has like the Hafiz Gul Bahadur group focused its energies on Afghanistan.

Both have had peace deals with Islamabad, but Hafiz Gul Bahadur recently threatened to revoke the agreement if Pakistan continued to bomb targets in his region.

There is also a question mark over a recent move by Pakistan to pull out guards from a section of Waziristan's border with Afghanistan's Khost province, leaving it unmanned for nearly two weeks.

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Officials in Miranshah, the administrative centre of North Waziristan, say most foreign fighters have since slipped into Afghanistan, as have tribal elements affiliated with the TTP.

Considering these early developments, the emerging picture appears to be one of restrained military action aimed at driving undesired elements over the border into Afghanistan without greatly upsetting the "friendly" groups or the "civilian population", as local officials put it.

Those that are being driven out are likely to regroup and create alternative sanctuaries in Khost, just as the militants already driven from the Swat, Bajaur and Mohmand regions of Pakistan's tribal areas set up sanctuaries in Kunar and Nuristan provinces of Afghanistan.

The difference is that while those in Kunar and Nuristan are hindered by geography from launching major attacks in Afghanistan - and have therefore been more focused on Pakistan - the elements who gather in Khost will have Kabul within their striking distance.

Analysts close to the Pakistani military establishment accuse the militant groups in Kunar and Nuristan of having become "foreign proxies", used by Afghanistan, India and even the US to punish Pakistan for supporting the Haqqani network and the Quetta Shura, as the Afghan Taliban leadership is known.

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Thousands of civilians are fleeing Waziristan for safety

Many believe that a sanctuary in Khost is likely to become more Afghanistan focused, although some elements there, too, wouldn't mind being used against Pakistan.

This leaves us with the so-called friendly groups, who are natives of the Waziristan region, have had peace deals with Islamabad, and have hosted and nourished the wider militant fraternity that today stalks the entire Afghan-Pakistan region.

This proliferation of Taliban is credited by many to a Pakistani policy - denied by Islamabad - of arming and encouraging the Taliban to capture Kabul so as to prevent its arch-rival, India, from expanding its influence in Afghanistan.

But since this fraternity started to breed groups that turned on Pakistan, analysts say the Pakistanis would now like to secure their border with Afghanistan so as to prevent a reverse flow of these "foreign proxies" into its territory. The current operation is to achieve that goal, they say.

It is still not clear why Pakistan seems to be holding back on the Haqqani network and the Waziristan groups.

Some analysts who are close to the military suggest that these groups may still come in handy if Pakistan decides to keep parts of Afghanistan unsettled until its fears of Indian ascendancy in Kabul are put to rest.

But most are unanimous that Pakistan does not want a total Taliban victory in Kabul any more, because in the changed circumstances Pakistan would be the first country where they would try to export their ideology.

To succeed at this tricky game of realpolitik, Pakistan will need to hold sensitive negotiations with the native groups.

Both these groups would like to remain in control of their territory, and if given a chance, would like to make Waziristan part of an extended Taliban sanctuary that includes southern and eastern Afghanistan.

Since the Pakistan-Afghanistan border is officially disputed by Kabul, there is a real danger of these groups striking a deal with Kabul to create problems for Pakistan.

Backing disaffected Waziri tribesmen against Pakistan might be seen by Kabul as a way of getting back at Islamabad.

After all, it's unlikely to welcome thousands of militants being dumped on its territory by its larger and more powerful neighbour.

Pakistan will therefore be treading a very fine line when it negotiates any power-sharing deal with these groups.
 
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Its is only NS, who gave orders most probably. Earlier Zardari and the party were busy in something else, when Mehran happened and Marriot happened.
India had also been saying past so many years that Pakistan has become breeding ground of terror.

you better worry about increasing rape cases in india, pakistan can and will take care of anything that comes her way, be it terrorism or baniyaism
 
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GoP will have to come down hard on the insurgency, which is now "Hydra Headed" in nature. The insurgency is now absolutely "amoeba-like" in its propagation. In one strategic research paper that I read recently, the word "franchise" (a very interesting characterisation) was used to describe all these bodies that are erupting around; so much so that there is a "blur" between good insurgents (sic) and bad insurgents (sic).
@Icarus; your views, sir.
 
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That's true, specifically all these uzbeks and other shady folks are not bound to let go without a fight.

But what of Hype's assertion of heavy collateral damage, these buggers do after all sustain themselves on "anger against the state"?

Perhaps a more drawn out, stretched operation, where the boots do most of the heavy lifting and the vipers are kept away except for perhaps very few strikes on entrenched positions (if said positions happen to not be in settled areas, we've all discussed exactly how even the most stringent of fire discipline cannot stem collateral damage if the strike is danger close for the civvies), let the PA bite the bullet and accept the enhanced attrition that will come from sparsely utilizing the gunships et al, take their time and clear it from the area from the sand up rather than sky down?

Well if ANA and the coalition forces make their sincerest efforts to control the other side of the border , trust me we can deal with these bastards once and for all . Let me put it this way , we have come to a point where the only option left is to fight , the flight and freeze responses have failed . So even if there is a high probability of half of the Pakistani population dying in this operation , we should still proceed with it for very obvious reasons .

So far , there haven't been boots on the ground , the F16's are softening up the targets and the cordon is there . You are looking to limit the collateral damage , but what you state doesn't seem to be PA's strategy , it is going to be different than Swat operation . For the greater good then , sky down our paths be .
 
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