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[Irfan Baloch]

I prefer to keep beer in the fridge, but you Sir are my hero if you stuff your refrigerator with a bear.

a bad habit picked up from the Saudis.

you have a good point regarding keeping us way from eastern borders but it seems the Indian planners also employ from same level of mental reasoning when they decide to open up cultural centers in the far flung areas on Afghanistan near the border with Pakistan where the population has a daily task of surviving through subsistence farming and herding let alone bothering to know about Agra or Delhi.

 

[AmnaR]

After years of unprovoked attacks and over 50,000 civilians and military men killed, the Pakistani nation had enough of this menace of terrorism that has plagued the nation for long. We have seen them reject terrorism in various recent polls. State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki said, “This is a Government of Pakistan operation. We’ve long supported Pakistan efforts to extend their sovereignty and stability throughout the country.” We wish the Pakistani nation well and complete success in their quest for peace.


Abdul Quddus
DET-United States Central Command

Thank you. We couldn't have done the operation with USA help and funding. Please increase Pakistan's funding.

On side note: NWA curfew uplifting schedule announced by Political administration,The people of Mir Ali ,Razmak will leave tomorrow the area for operation

 

[Secur]

The process of accepting extremist religious views is seeping into society far and wide. The consequences of that tipping point, which is not far way, when they reach majority will not be pretty.

No , you misunderstood my question there . What exactly makes you say that " institutions that we rely on are being eroded by corrosive influence " ?

 

[AmnaR]

NWA curfew uplifting schedule had been announced by Political administration,The people of Mir Ali and Razmak will leave tomorrow the area for operation.

 

[VCheng]

No , you misunderstood my question there . What exactly makes you say that " institutions that we rely on are being eroded by corrosive influence " ?

The Army itself, and many other ancillary institutions are slowly filling up with cadres of people who actually believe in, or are sympathetic to, the the extremist ideology being displayed by the Taliban. These people will surely erode the efficacy of these institutions to do their job.

a bad habit picked up from the Saudis.

you have a good point regarding keeping us way from eastern borders but it seems the Indian planners also employ from same level of mental reasoning when they decide to open up cultural centers in the far flung areas on Afghanistan near the border with Pakistan where the population has a daily task of surviving through subsistence farming and herding let alone bothering to know about Agra or Delhi.

India does not care about the Afghan population, but they will surely care about, and do everything they can, to ensnare Pakistan in its proverbial back yard. The opportunity is simply too good to miss.

 

[AmnaR]

From a local and reliable journalist:

 

[Secur]

The Army itself, and many other ancillary institutions are slowly filling up with cadres of people who actually believe in, or are sympathetic to, the the extremist ideology being displayed by the Taliban. These people will surely erode the efficacy of these institutions to do their job.

Too far fetched , VCheng , too far fetched and there is very little on the ground to support it .

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Can someone unstick this thread? People keep creating other threads to discuss. I guess because usually sticky threads are dead and no one post in them. People usually just scroll down to see new threads.

@Aeronaut, @WebMaster

 

[IceCold]

I suspect an eventual airstrikes within Afghanistan,.

I sincerely hope you sir are right on this account. I will go as far as to say to target ANA and hit them hard. Eventually its the sanctuaries in Afghanistan that needs to be taken out. However for some very strange logic I don't see many people being vocal about it, I haven't seen the armed forces being vocal about it and definitely not the government.

Is striking Afghanistan so beyond our capability or it is the resolve that we lack?

 

[Jf Thunder]

I sincerely hope you sir are right on this account. I will go as far as to say to target ANA and hit them hard. Eventually its the sanctuaries in Afghanistan that needs to be taken out. However for some very strange logic I don't see many people being vocal about it, I haven't seen the armed forces being vocal about it and definitely not the government.

Is striking Afghanistan so beyond our capability or it is the resolve that we lack?

dude, attacking another sovereign nation is too great a risk, our armed forces will not just go about and threat everyone, we might draw international condemnation

 

[IceCold]

dude, attacking another sovereign nation is too great a risk, our armed forces will not just go about and threat everyone, we might draw international condemnation

First Afghanistan is not a sovereign nation, second they are harbouring anti Pakistan elements, proud nations dont tolerate this nonsense. Thousands of Pakistanis have lost their lives and you are worried about drawing international condemnation. I say **** that and hit afghanistan with every thing we have got.

 

[Shabaz Sharif]

Rs500m kitty: Govt opts to provide cash grants instead of relief goods to IDPs

ISLAMABAD: As the federal government announced an extra-budget package of Rs500 million for the internally displaced people (IDPs) fleeing the military operation in North Waziristan, a meeting on issues of IDPs decided to provide cash assistance of Rs7,000 to every family to meet its living expenses instead of relief goods.

The decision was taken on Tuesday during a meeting on coordinating relief activities by Minister for States and Frontier Region (SAFRON) Abdul Qadir Baloch even as the Finance Minister Ishaq Dar announced in the National Assembly an initial allocation of Rs500 million for meeting needs of IDPs.

The meeting decided that instead of the government bearing responsibility for providing food stuff and other supplies, IDPs will be provided cash grants.

Baloch, who has been tasked by the prime minister to oversee issues relating to the IDPs, reviewed the proposal to increase the cash grant from Rs7000 to 10000 also came under discussion. However, souces said no decision was taken on the matter as yet.

Additionally the government would provide each IDP family Rs25,000 for rehabilitation once the operation ends.

Rs500m for IDPs announced

The federal government announced on Tuesday that Rs500 million will be sanctioned for providing relief to the internally displacement persons (IDPs) fleeing the military operation in North Waziristan.

Addressing the National Assembly on Tuesday, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said that the financial requirements for the military operation in North Waziristan and the displacement of civilian population will be met with an initial allocation of Rs500 million.

Although no allocation was made in the budget for the military operation, the government would exercise its discretionary powers to allocate the necessary resources, Dar said, while winding up the general debate on the budget which has continued for nine days.

In response to the criticism made by the opposition that the budget has become irrelevant even before its passage, Dar informed the lower house that 57 of the 133 recommendations made by the upper house have been accepted by the government.

Former National Assembly speaker Fehmida Mirza said that during the previous government’s tenure, the Swat military operation was debated in the parliament and the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) took ownership of the operation.

However, she pointed out that Parliament was not taken on board in regard to this military operation, due to which political ownership of the operation was vague.

It was the right time to declare emergency in the country, but the federal government has set no priority for much neglected sectors in the budget, she said.

She also blamed that unnecessary haste should not be made otherwise someone can wrap up the system before we could wrap up debate on budget.


Read more: ZarbeAzb

http://tribune.com.pk/story/723171/govt-sets-aside-rs500m-for-idps-of-n-waziristan-operation-dar/

 

[Manticore]

Please keep the thread strictly for zarb-e-azb- news/ discussions /support for our army. There is no room for second guessing our army in the war against terrorists.


Dont derail this update / news thread with the philosophical debate whether this op is the right or wrong step. Also dont post the sharia angle / pro talib in this thread and the debate of what we gained in WOT in musharraf's time. Dont discuss khalafat here as well. Such posts from now on will be deleted from this thread.

For that debate you can go here as Ive removed these posts from this thread
Operation Zarb-e-Azb | Is it the solution? | Page 6

@Chak Bamu @Emmie @Fulcrum15 @Jungibaaz

 

[That Guy]

Rs500m kitty: Govt opts to provide cash grants instead of relief goods to IDPs

ISLAMABAD: As the federal government announced an extra-budget package of Rs500 million for the internally displaced people (IDPs) fleeing the military operation in North Waziristan, a meeting on issues of IDPs decided to provide cash assistance of Rs7,000 to every family to meet its living expenses instead of relief goods.

The decision was taken on Tuesday during a meeting on coordinating relief activities by Minister for States and Frontier Region (SAFRON) Abdul Qadir Baloch even as the Finance Minister Ishaq Dar announced in the National Assembly an initial allocation of Rs500 million for meeting needs of IDPs.

The meeting decided that instead of the government bearing responsibility for providing food stuff and other supplies, IDPs will be provided cash grants.

Baloch, who has been tasked by the prime minister to oversee issues relating to the IDPs, reviewed the proposal to increase the cash grant from Rs7000 to 10000 also came under discussion. However, souces said no decision was taken on the matter as yet.

Additionally the government would provide each IDP family Rs25,000 for rehabilitation once the operation ends.

Rs500m for IDPs announced

The federal government announced on Tuesday that Rs500 million will be sanctioned for providing relief to the internally displacement persons (IDPs) fleeing the military operation in North Waziristan.

Addressing the National Assembly on Tuesday, Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said that the financial requirements for the military operation in North Waziristan and the displacement of civilian population will be met with an initial allocation of Rs500 million.

Although no allocation was made in the budget for the military operation, the government would exercise its discretionary powers to allocate the necessary resources, Dar said, while winding up the general debate on the budget which has continued for nine days.

In response to the criticism made by the opposition that the budget has become irrelevant even before its passage, Dar informed the lower house that 57 of the 133 recommendations made by the upper house have been accepted by the government.

Former National Assembly speaker Fehmida Mirza said that during the previous government’s tenure, the Swat military operation was debated in the parliament and the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) took ownership of the operation.

However, she pointed out that Parliament was not taken on board in regard to this military operation, due to which political ownership of the operation was vague.

It was the right time to declare emergency in the country, but the federal government has set no priority for much neglected sectors in the budget, she said.

She also blamed that unnecessary haste should not be made otherwise someone can wrap up the system before we could wrap up debate on budget.

Read more: ZarbeAzb

http://tribune.com.pk/story/723171/govt-sets-aside-rs500m-for-idps-of-n-waziristan-operation-dar/

Not a bad idea, families know more about what they need than the government ever will. The goods that are provided usually aren't worth much, and can end up being poorly distributed among the people, providing financial assistance really cuts out the middle man.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

dude, attacking another sovereign nation is too great a risk, our armed forces will not just go about and threat everyone, we might draw international condemnation

when Afghanistan (establishment) stops allowing their country to be used by hostile regional countries against Pakistan we will treat them as sovereign