"So doesn't that tell you that they are not all the same, but different groups, some having the same goal and some different. Has the truce worked ?? I don't believe it has, doesn't that gives you some idea of who is what and what everyone wants ??"
I think it's fair to say that the much larger and stronger Bahadur and Nazir factions have not made decisive war upon the TTP nor do they now. I guess, therefore, it did work from the TTP's perspective even if Nazir and Bahadur don't assist the TTP.
"why weren't then they active inside Pakistan, they had 95% of Afghanistan in their control, perfect opportunity to create trouble over here..."
It seems clear that, literally, up until 9/11 the taliban were decisively engaged in securing Afghanistan. Witness their seeking the active assistance of A.Q. to assassinate Massoud. Their work was not yet finished in Afghanistan.
Equally, it seems clear that the presence of Haqqani, Hekmatyar, A.Q. and Omar/afghan taliban on pashtu lands of baluchistan and FATAville AFTER 9/11 and their ejection from Afghanistan had inspired, radicalized, and mobilized your own pashtus to their pre-disposed inclinations.
A child in the streets Miram Shah can see who is respected and who is not, no? Join the F.C. or join a taliban faction-which brings better pay and more prestige? Who does your government reward and negotiate it's sovereignty with between 2002-2008? Who, of the two, is the
jihadist and who is the lackey of a puppet U.S. government in the lexicon of the neighborhood?
That child will easily see that the taliban are a preferable lifestyle. Hopefully now it is not so much so.
"...why is it that the location of his hideout can't be given."
You might ask the ISI that. I HIGHLY doubt that the C.I.A. have any functioning HUMINT networks around Quetta. We may be privy to ELINT intercepts and we may pick up intel in Afghanistan WRT to these networks but it's clear that Omar and others work very hard to assure their security from us and your government...
...for now. The afghan taliban do not wish to antagonize their hosts and have worked very hard on behalf of their hosts to keep others whom are Pakistani from doing so. OTOH, the afghan taliban are not actively assisting the P.A. in combat operations against these same groups, are they?
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if US forces are so efficient in controlling the border, then why do they cry for our help, why can't then they control the Taliban crossing the durand line on daily basis."
Are you truly so arrogant as to believe that large numbers of insurgents weren't killed in Konar and Nuristan by American forces? Are you truly so naive to not understand the difficulties for anybody to fully control these borders? Do you think that the combat in the Korengal valley and many, many others was a fantasy concocted by Hollywood directors and not a reality?
Would you care to try crossing into Afghanistan with a taliban group?
I doubt you'll find it easy-even now as we pull some of these forces into more populated zones. Do try, though, if you find it such an easy and amusing giggle and we'll see who laughs last.
"Possible explanation, they were knowingly let to cross into and later over to Pakistan by the ever efficient US forces controlling the border."
Anything is possible, correct? Do you believe such is LIKELY?
"Let them open, they will be getting the same treatment as given to the Mehsud, at least PA did its job by neutralizing them & recovered the area lost for many years, let the future come and we will see what happens to them too."
That remains to be seen but I certainly will hope so.
"...And unfortunately, the objectives, goals and the intention of US is different comparing to Pakistan."
What are your objectives? I ask this because when referring to the U.S. in Afghanistan, you seem inclined to assign nefarious goals to us. Is this true? If so, how do you explain a U.N. mandate to be there and that forty other nations spend their blood and treasure there as well? Are they all toady lackeys of America? Seriously?
I understand that you're concerned about India in Afghanistan. Sadly, for you and so many others here, nobody else is-least of all the Afghan government. They receive great heaps of very transparent aid from India. They provide India with no more embassies and consulates than they do for Pakistan and, most of all, like Pakistan-Afghans will always decide who has that right and who does not to legally be on their lands. THAT prerogative, btw, will of course include the taliban government should they again come to power. THAT, btw, might explain the eagerness of so many here to see exactly such occur.
So, given your concerns and given afghan objections to your concerns, can we assume that you make proxy war on Afghanistan after all? Your mouth will say "no, no, no" but your actions say "yes, yes, yes".
Of course, in doing, you also make proxy war on your ostensible ally America and its forty thieves...errr...national partners.
This remains the fundamental source of our mutual distrust. You seek to dominate Afghanistan and to do so through proxy pashtu agents. Hekmatyar works even though he somewhat disdains Omar. Omar, though, also works just fine for Pakistan. So too Haqqani.
taimikhan, you've displayed a superbly nuanced grasp of
strategic depth in EXACTLY the correct posture as it relates to Afghanistan. You are correct to assume, for instance, that retreating into Afghanistan were you to face open conventional war in your east would be difficult and, likely, a slaughter.
Your heavy weapons and armor would be channelized and possibly destroyed by Indian airpower as they attempted to pull back. That is how most understand "
strategic depth".
Not you, though. Congratulations...sincerely so as it's about DENYING the western flank to India where true
strategic depth in the Pakistani context resides.
