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Operation Rah-e-Nijat (South Waziristan)

Pakistan pounds militant targets

Hundreds of families are abandoning their homes to escape the fighting Pakistan's army is engaged in fierce fighting for the third consecutive day as it continues its drive against al-Qaeda and Taliban in South Waziristan.

The army has set up five temporary bases in the mountainous region near the Afghan border to try to seal off the Taliban's main stronghold.

There is no clear word about casualties, with each side claiming the other has suffered heavy losses.

Residents in the remote area say dozens of people have died.

Reports from the region are sketchy as it is difficult and dangerous for foreign or Pakistani journalists to operate inside South Waziristan.

At least 20,000 people have fled the area over the last week to the nearby Dera Ismail Khan.

Meanwhile, US Central Command chief David Petraeus, who oversees the operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, has arrived in Islamabad where he will hold talks with senior Pakistani military officials.

Separately, US Senator John Kerry is due to meet Pakistani leaders in Islamabad, the US embassy has said.

He is expected to discuss America's multibillion-dollar aid package for Pakistan, amid concerns by some officials in the country that it comes with unacceptable strings attached.

'Consolidating'

Clashes between security forces and the Taliban have continued throughout the night across the South Waziristan region, the BBC's Syed Shoaib Hasan reports from neighbouring Dera Ismail Khan.

At the moment, the situation is a stalemate as the army tries to use ground troops backed by heavy weapons and air power to push back the Taliban.

The militants have entrenched themselves in fortified positions in the areas where the military is marching in. But they are likely to resort to traditional guerrilla tactics once the army is firmly inside territory controlled by the Mehsud tribe.

This is the heartland of the resistance, and it is here that the fate of the campaign will be decided.

The battleground for the opening round has mainly been conducted in arid lowlands so far. But it is how the soldiers fight in the mountains and forests that will be the key to the success of this operation.

But the army has ceased its push into the militant heartland and started to consolidate itself on the periphery before pushing deeper in, our correspondent says.

Checkpoints and supply depots have been established in Sherawangai and Mandana in the south-west towards the Tiarza sub-division.

Security forces have used artillery to pound militant positions in Wana, Servakai, Manzai, Jandola and Razmak, in the north, south and east of the area of operations.

Fighter jets have also been deployed to attack the Taliban in Makeen, Nawazkot, Spinkamar, Khaisora and Makeen.

The army has also taken control of the key Ingalmall mountain range, which marks the passage into Afghanistan.

This will play an important role in disrupting the militants' supply lines and in ensuring more help does not arrive from Afghanistan, our correspondent adds.

According to reports, the Taliban have been using heavy weapons to fire back at the troops.

A Taliban spokesman said they had taken dozens of soldiers and not one of their men had been killed.

'Getting nothing'

Meanwhile, hundreds of people from South Waziristan continue to arrive in Dera Ismail Khan to escape fighting.

The BBC's Aleem Maqbool in Dera Ismail Khan says there is very little preparation for the displaced people.

"At least 20,000 people are registered here. They are not getting anything, some are being taken in by the extended families and relatives," he says.

Meanwhile, the federal government and the military have ordered the closure of schools and colleges for a week in Islamabad and some other cities for security reasons.

The closure comes amid fears that militants may try to take hostages to force the authorities to ease pressure on their positions in South Waziristan, correspondents say.

Security is tight across Pakistan and police in Islamabad have searched a number of religious seminaries and some nearby rural areas for militants.

According to reports, nearly a dozen suspects have been detained near the city's main vegetable and fruit market.

Interior Minister Rehman Malik said in a statement that action would be taken against any foreign preachers, if found.

On Sunday, reports said Taliban militants, supported by ethnic Uzbek fighters linked to al-Qaeda, were engaged in street clashes with soldiers as the army tried to break the militants' grip on South Waziristan.

An army spokesman said the troops were encountering less resistance than expected but admitted they were progressing slowly because of the remote area's rugged, mountainous terrain.

Gen Athar Abbas told the BBC there were mines and IEDs [improvised explosive devices] in the area which required clearance.

The army has been massing troops near the militants' stronghold for months - ever since the governor of Pakistan's North West Frontier Province announced a ground offensive in South Waziristan on 15 June.

Pakistan's government has been under considerable pressure from the US to tackle militancy there.

North and South Waziristan form a lethal militant belt from where insurgents have launched attacks across north-west Pakistan as well as into parts of eastern Afghanistan.

South Waziristan is considered to be the first significant sanctuary for Islamic militants outside Afghanistan since the 11 September 2001 attacks in the US.


BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan pounds militant targets
 
The REAL CoAS is under pressure to show efficiency and performance to the Wadda sahebs. If 30,000 is not enough he will not hesitate to bring the whole of PA to capture Waziristan.
 
Gen Petraeus, ISAF Commander MacCrystal arrive in Islamabad

ISLAMABAD (updated on: October 18, 2009, 21:36 PST): The US Central Command Chief General David Petraeus and ISAF commander in Afghanistan General McCrystal on Sunday arrived in Islamabad, Aaj News reported.

The US Generals would separately meet with Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani and Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani on Monday.

According to the sources, they would discuss to provide weapons for monitoring the conversation of militants besides the glasses which are used to see at night.

They would also discuss provision of more gunship helicopters besides Kerry-Lugar bill.

War on terrorism and military operation against militants in South Waziristan would also be discussed in the meeting.
 
ISLAMABAD: The US-led Nato forces vacated more than half a dozen key security checkposts on the Afghan side of the Pak-Afghan border just ahead of the major Pakistan Army ground offensive (code named: Rahe Nijaat) against Taliban-led militants in the volatile tribal area of South Waziristan, it is learnt.

It is feared that the American decision will facilitate Afghan Taliban in crossing over to Pakistan and support militants in striking back at the Pakistani security forces in the troubled tribal area.

Sources close to the NWFP government and military strategists involved in the planning of S Waziristan operation told The News over the weekend that the Americans vacated eight security checkposts on the Afghan side of the border just five days before the Army operation. Four of these close to South Waziristan including one each at Zambali and at Nurkha, and four in the north in the area of Nuristan where American forces recently came under violent attacks by the militants.

Latest reports indicate that the Americans have also removed some posts close to North Waziristan, which could encourage even more Afghan Taliban fighters to cross over to the Pakistan side. This has raised many eyebrows in government and military circles with points being made about “conflicting interests” and dubious American designs.

The NWFP government, civilian and military officials in the provincial capital have been astonished by this move and more so intrigued by its timing. Alarmed and concerned about its likely adverse affect on the military operation in S Waziristan where the Pakistani troops reportedly comprising 28,000 soldiers are expected to face fierce resistance from the heavily armed Taliban-led militants, the NWFP government recently alerted the relevant authorities in Islamabad about it.

Pakistan has now taken up this matter with the Americans and conveyed its serious concern about vacating the checkposts at this crucial juncture. Notably the security checkposts on the Afghan side of the border are already almost a third of what Pakistan has on its side.

Recent communication intercepts by Pakistani intelligence outfits have revealed that Taliban commander in Nuristan Qari Ziaur Rehman has invited TTP leader Maulvi Faqir Mohammad, former deputy of late Baitullah Mehsud, to come to Nuristan and operate from there if he finds space in Wazristan shrinking.

Experts believe the American move of vacating security checkposts on the Afghan side close to Pakistan’s border could undermine the military action by Pakistan Army. While on one hand it could offer an easy escape route to some militants, it is believed that this would facilitate movement of Afghan Taliban into Pakistan side to join hands with the al-Qaeda-backed local Taliban and other locals as well as foreign militant groups against the military action there.

Some observers see it as a tactical move by the US to ward off pressure from its own forces in Afghanistan that have been under severe attacks by the Afghan Taliban. Hence they want to provide them unhindered passage to Pakistan side, as it would help shift the main theatre of war from Afghanistan to inside Pakistan. Americans themselves have been saying that 70 per cent of area in Afghanistan is out of their control.

The Pakistani Tabiban in S Waziristan backed by al-Qaeda are joined by a large number of foreign militants including a battalion of Uzbeks, Tajiks, Chechens and Arab fighters. According to military sources the toughest resistance is expected from an estimated 1,500 battle-hardened Uzbek fighters, equipped with highly sophisticated weapons. “The Uzbek fighters face a do or die situation with the all-out army action in the hostile mountainous area,” a senior government representative maintained.

The uninterrupted flow of sophisticated arms and funding to the foreign militants in S Waziristan has also lured many criminals to join hands with them in challenging the writ of the state, defence experts say. The presence of various foreign and local militants in the rugged terrain of South Waziristan is estimated at between 15,000 and 20,000.

Officials in the military and civil bureaucracy are cautiously optimistic about the outcome of the operation. “Either these militants will run to Afghanistan, settled areas or stand and fight to the end,” is how one key NWFP government representative summed it up.

A seemingly more realistic view from a key office holder in Peshawar is: “We are half way in containing insurgency and hopefully by end of the year major military operations will be over and 2010 will be the year of consolidating the gains made in recovering the lost ground.”

Whatever the outcome, observers believe that operation in the Taliban stronghold of South Waziristan became inevitable. “It became imperative to go for a military operation in South Waziristan to regain the lost space that has been used as training ground for planning and executing attacks targeting key security installations of Pakistan including the GHQ,” the Army spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said earlier shortly after the launch of the operation.

Despite several attempts on Sunday The News was unable to get an official version from the Pakistan Army Spokesman Major-General Athar Abbas on this alarming development. However, when the US Embassy Spokesman Richard Snelsire was contacted by this correspondent and his attention was drawn to the question of vacated checkposts he remained non-committal. When a confirmation was sought and he was asked what had prompted this move, Snelsire said he had no clue about it. “I do not have information on that, and that is outside our purview,” he noted, adding that he had not seen any reporting on that.

Source: The News
 
Dear AgNoStIc MuSliM

You are probably the Chief at this forum, and just banned Fundamentalist for less than friendly comments about the Shia brothers.

I personally do not subscribe to the Shia-Sunni divisions at all; they are all stars in the vast constellation of Muslim ummah. I always ask whether the Holy Prophet PBUH was a Shia or Sunni.

But I am amazed at your tolerance on terms used by other friends like “Najdi Takfiris”, Hezb-al-Tahrir, Lashkar-e-Jangvi, “Wahabi”, Sipah-e-Sahaba etc.

Even worse is the needless ethnic twist added “plz stop being a "PATHAN". Alright, from now on I will act as a Gujjar, Arain, Soomro, Mengal, Kashmiri or a Randhawa?

It is a cold statistical fact that so far all the Army operations have been conducted in the “PATHAN” areas; and they form the bulk of the “bad guys”, IDP’s, generally people on the receiving end of the might and fire power of the State.

As a matter of fact this forum in its present form does not represent microcosm of the true mainstream Pakistan. It does not cater for the opinion of a Swati farmer whose family and house has just become “collateral damage”, or a Karachi Rickshaw wala who feels humiliated, or a shopkeeper in Multan who abhors the carnage from both sides.

The quality and content of this forum is greatly enhanced by an open debate (within bounds of decency off course). Once all members have exactly the same pro-establishment views it will end up being too bland and meaningless. Therefore you are requested to use your discretionary authority with a bit more sensitivity.

If you cannot, I will understand your compulsions.
 
Yes they will be glad to go there with your family.

Unfortunately, my family has already seen most of this 'phenomenon' first hand and suffered it not once but for quite a few time as of now.

i suggest you should give a try!

People like you sitting awaayy from the country, showing as if there is no other better patriot then themselves and making us understand what we know better and than emotionalizing the circumstances as if they have been re-borned after some talib pieced them and them fed it to dogs!

Buddy dont think that if someone had made you a NICOP (so that if you are kicked out from a country, atleast there would someone who could absorb you), it would automatically qualify you to debate on matters that you dont know a damn about.

i know you are guud at copy pasting, let's see if you can come up with something real and actual!
 
Dear AgNoStIc MuSliM

You are probably the Chief at this forum, and just banned Fundamentalist for less than friendly comments about the Shia brothers.

I personally do not subscribe to the Shia-Sunni divisions at all; they are all stars in the vast constellation of Muslim ummah. I always ask whether the Holy Prophet PBUH was a Shia or Sunni.

But I am amazed at your tolerance on terms used by other friends like “Najdi Takfiris”, Hezb-al-Tahrir, Lashkar-e-Jangvi, “Wahabi”, Sipah-e-Sahaba etc.

Even worse is the needless ethnic twist added “plz stop being a "PATHAN". Alright, from now on I will act as a Gujjar, Arain, Soomro, Mengal, Kashmiri or a Randhawa?

It is a cold statistical fact that so far all the Army operations have been conducted in the “PATHAN” areas; and they form the bulk of the “bad guys”, IDP’s, generally people on the receiving end of the might and fire power of the State.

As a matter of fact this forum in its present form does not represent microcosm of the true mainstream Pakistan. It does not cater for the opinion of a Swati farmer whose family and house has just become “collateral damage”, or a Karachi Rickshaw wala who feels humiliated, or a shopkeeper in Multan who abhors the carnage from both sides.

The quality and content of this forum is greatly enhanced by an open debate (within bounds of decency off course). Once all members have exactly the same pro-establishment views it will end up being too bland and meaningless. Therefore you are requested to use your discretionary authority with a bit more sensitivity.

If you cannot, I will understand your compulsions.


Great Post - Even Americans are not required so resolutely, to tow the state policy. This is a war that divides the nation and should be reflected as such, for this Forum to have any meaning.

Bolded - This is the key to a MUSLIM UMMAH.

Hats off to you JAVED.
 
Brothers,

It is request to all of you please dont involve families in discussion, indian members are also reading your post .

We should learn respect of each other

thanks,

Brother ,

Please dont involve families in your discussion , we should respect each other and avoid to pass personal comments,

Thanks

Buddy, though you are banned but still for others comprehension let me clarify this right here; no one is 'talking' about families or passing 'personal' comments, it is just the hypothetical scenario i am interested in!
 
i dont disagree but apparantly 1,500 afghan talibs have come over to SWA to assist the mahsuds!

1500 Afghan Talibs are peanuts to add to the so-called 10000 strong force Mehsud has been bragging about. Most likely the rejects of the Afghan Talibs have been sent here in order to 'keep their word' to Mehsud for his cry for help.

The same we had heard in Operation Rah e Rast that Mehsuds have sent 3000 fighters to aid the Sufi of Swat. Last I checked; most of them got roasted or shot or they decided to shave their weird beards and dissolve in the local populace to become IDP's.
 
Dear Xeric:

Staying in Pakistan does not qualify you as a Patriot, and staying out of Pakistan does not equate to insensitivity either. By this token I have been a “Patriot” most of my adult life; studied, lived and worked in Pakistan.

One child goes to school in Peshawar. Anxiety is natural. In that sense I am giving it a “Try” as we speak.

I do not support or condone Taliban blasts against civilians. I also condemn shelling, bombing, drone strikes on Pakistani soil by State Authorities or the US forces; in which civilians are invariably the “collateral victims”

“”i know you are guud at copy pasting, let's see if you can come up with something real and actual!.””

Real and Actual like what?
 
The REAL CoAS is under pressure to show efficiency and performance to the Wadda sahebs. If 30,000 is not enough he will not hesitate to bring the whole of PA to capture Waziristan.

You would do well to rephrase your words - the PA is not 'capturing' Waziristan - we are sorting out the TTP terrorist scumbags who have set up their own fiefdom in our country.

This operation is NOT about showing 'efficiency'! Its about wiping out the salafi-indoctrinated terrorists who are fantasizing about ruling the land.
 
The REAL CoAS is under pressure to show efficiency and performance to the Wadda sahebs. If 30,000 is not enough he will not hesitate to bring the whole of PA to capture Waziristan.

pray tell us !!!
 
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