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Operation Peace Spring in Northern Syria : The Turkish initiative to create safe zone

dBSPL said:
Which battalions in the field are foreign fighters, for example? Would you please give me a exact name of units? Which fraction and which front?

I told you not to comment on things you didn't know about. Just a few hours ago.
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Should I actually know that much detail to know what FSA really is ??

I am a remote observer of the Syrian War since 2011 but I know enough to determine which is the good side and which is bad.

I know small facts, like the assassination of the Press TV journalist, Maya Nasser, in 2012. He was killed by an anti-government sniper, probably of FSA.

I also know another fact, the Syrian cosmonaut, Muhammad Faris, defected to the opposition also in 2012.

Things like that.

I don't have to follow every detail to know what the truth is.

Malik Abdullah said:
Shut the hell up Jamadar. Likes of you are selling your women to Hindus and cheering for the killings of Muslims elsewhere in the world. Just because you don't have the balls to fight doesn't mean others are same as you. If your daddy Assad was so holy, Millions of Syrians wouldn't be fleeing the country. Any Non Syrian who is fighting against Assad is a hero to me.
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What is your interest in the Syrian war ??

I follow it, though not so closely, because Syria is the last country in West Asia where Progressiveism / Socialism is the governing system. Though I must say that the Syrian Ba'ath movement should proceed more towards True Socialism.

And why should I have objection if some Muslim woman in India decides to marry a non-Muslim ?? The Muslim-majority African country of Tunisia passed a law about two years ago allowing Muslim women to marry non-Muslims. There is no sale going on there.
 
jamahir said:
Should I actually know that much detail to know what FSA really is ??

I am a remote observer of the Syrian War since 2011 but I know enough to determine which is the good side and which is bad.

I know small facts, like the assassination of the Press TV journalist, Maya Nasser, in 2012. He was killed by an anti-government sniper, probably of FSA.

I also know another fact, the Syrian cosmonaut, Muhammad Faris, defected to the opposition also in 2012.

Things like that.

I don't have to follow every detail to know what the truth is.
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If you make claims that are incompatible with reality, yes, you have to know.

Man, please don't get me wrong, but what I'm really saying is that you not about every detail. But you make such big mistakes that it seems that you are really far from the Syria's last 2 or 3 years... The FSA you're talking about has long since died.(The period when the United States turned its attention to the pkk/pyd after Russia intervened into Syria) Some of the looters joined the SDF, while others joined AQ-related organizations in Idlib.

Even structure consisting of Turkey is not yet at the optimum level. However, it is possible to intervene as soon as a radicalist attitude is seen. Because all the factions within a main structure are closed by joining the regular army one by one. The command level of Ceysul Vatani is largely for those who left the Syrian army between 2010-2014.
 
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500 said:
PKK was created by Assad and Russia. Tens of thousands Turks were killed from areas controlled by Assad and Russia. Zero attacks against Turkey came out from US controlled areas.
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are you care about the Turks ? never


We very well know about that Pkk was born in Afrin/Syria and The leader of Pkk OCALAN lived in Damascus until 1999


but We also know about your plans

after invasion of Iraq by 1991 the US and the UK created terror corridor in N.Iraq
and PKK Terrorists always attacked Turkey from Pkk Terror camps in N.Iraq since 1991

Turkey lost hundreds of billions of dollars and more than 40.000 people to fight Pkk terrorism in the last 30 years


today same senario in N.Syria
the US , the UK , France , Israel wants to create terror corridor in N.Syria

the US supplied the YPG/PKK terrorists with over 30,000 trucks of weapons to fight with Turkey
PKK/YPG Terrorists attacked Turkish cities more than 700 times from N.Syria since 2016
and many Turkish citizens dead

even in the last 4 days 18 civilians including 1 baby , 11-12 and 15 years old girls have been killed and 270 others injured in rocket and mortar attacks launched by PKK/YPG terrorists from northern Syria to Turkey's southeastern Şanlıurfa and Mardin provinces


this time We will not allow the US , the UK , France , Israel backed PKK/YPG terrorists in N.Syria to attack on Turkey for another 30 years to lose hundreds of billions of dollars and tens of thousands of innocent people including women, children and infants
 
Falcon29 said:
@ArabianEmpires&Caliphates

Just get out of here man. It's not up moderation team to change things here. They are going with the flow of the members. The ME section is dominated by radical Iranian/Pakistani/Iraqi Shia. And they are gonna push their line there unhinged and without consequences. Then you simply have it that Arabs are not popular anymore or well liked. Many Pakistani's here also want to get closer to Iran and Turkey which is fine but in the process they are abusing Arabs and making fun of Arabs all the time. We can't have an opinion on anything in the ME without people attacking us with their tropes.

I got banned for no reason again and I'm done, I quit. I just read the forum for certain news. We all moved here and the forum is picking up pace: google search world defense forum

My advice for you is to just come there and join us. This place is not tolerant or welcoming of Arabs unless they are Shia radical ones. So I just wanted to give you the link and I'm off now.
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@Falcon29

The topic is under investigating with moderations and forum administrator (have known him here for 6+ years when Mosab was still a moderator here and we had a sizable Arab community on PDF) and might also contact @WebMaster and give him the opinions of old Arab members who left and the few that remain.

Leaving is letting those trolls "win" (although at the end of the day social media is irrelevant in terms of ground realities) and we will have a bunch of Arab-obsessed foreigners speaking in the name of 500 million of us, 20 + Arab countries and what not.

We can easily attract 100's if not 1000's of Arab users to PDF just from the diaspora alone. All it takes is a few Twitter hashtags and exposure. The problem with the other forum is that it is nowhere near as active and when you have been an PDF member for this long, you tend to stick to the same forum.

Arab forums, while many and extensive, have their weaknesses as well as any other forum and naturally are not international outside of the odd foreigner here and there who is capable of writing in Arabic.

Leaving is the easy way and quite frankly, a tiny number (overall) of anti-Arab users and a few anti-Arab Pakistanis here will never change the ground realities.

The ancient civilizational ties that date back to the IVC, the geographical proximity, the fact that we share religion, Urdu has tons of Arab loanwords (the most of all foreign languages), Arab countries host the largest Pakistani diaspora in the world, many I consider like our own and should/will be given citizenship one day, tons of Arab-Pakistani marriages, cultural, ethnic etc. ties.

The reality is that Arabs are incredibly well-liked in Pakistan. All it takes is to visit social media for a simple confirmation if you are completely ignorant. Same with our African Muslim brothers, South East Asian and everyone else by large. So the trolling on PDF is just that. An echo chamber that has nothing to do with the ground reality.

The reality is that Arab-Pakistani people to people ties are much bigger than any Pakistani relations with Turks, Iranians or what not. That's a fact.

We should not allow for this forum to have no Arab voice. We need to tackle the propaganda and lies and argue our case and the moderation team should help ensure that as in the past.

If completely nothing changes, I will probably follow your example, but it is a shame that we lost so many good Arab users. We should attract some of them back (if they wish to return and have the time for it) and add new ones. I think that we could easily attract 100's of new Arab users just from the diaspora alone very quickly. WebMaster would be happy about the traffic and we might finally get an Arab moderator as well.

I will reconsider for the time being, bro. I too have received ridiculous bans and just in this thread you saw the absolutely ridiculous biased moderation abuse in action. Something that will hopefully be dealt with.
 
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MMM-E said:
We very well know about that Pkk was born in Afrin/Syria and The leader of Pkk OCALAN lived in Damascus until 1999
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Bro, 9 October 1998 .

Turkey has given an ultimatum to the Syrian and Turkish tanks had arrived at the border. Father Assad stepped back and gave up protecting Ocalan.

This date marks the turning point in limiting the activities of the PKK in Syria.

Therefore, exactly 21 years later, the same day, an operation for similar purposes takes place.
 
ABC News Busted Using Gun Range Footage To Report Turkish 'Slaughter' Of Kurd Civilians

by Tyler Durden
Mon, 10/14/2019 - 09:51


ABC News was just busted using two year old gun range footage while reporting on Turkey 'slaughtering' the kurds in the wake of a US withdrawal from the region.

This video right here appearing to show Turkey's military bombing Kurd civilians in a Syrian border town. The Kurds, who fought alongside the US against ISIS now horrific reports of atrocities committed by Turkish-backed fighters on those very allies" -ABC News



https://twitter.com/x/status/1183695628288827392


And here's the footage they used - from the Knob Creek gun range in West Point, Kentucky in 2017.


 
dBSPL said:
What was in the link you provided? Not seen in my screen.

On the other side of the border, armored brigades are waiting (large enough to cover almost the entire Syrian territory), but hardly anything is seen during the day, except for NSA elements.
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Instgram link bro
Sometimes like that. Sometimes can see sometimes cannot dont know why....
 
Ruhnama said:
Instgram link bro
Sometimes like that. Sometimes can see sometimes cannot dont know why....
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1183760984529346560

Oh finally we see a tank... But wait, its regime's mbt ?

Seized by NSA around Menbij. :D

pkuser2k12 said:
ABC News Busted Using Gun Range Footage To Report Turkish 'Slaughter' Of Kurd Civilians

by Tyler Durden
Mon, 10/14/2019 - 09:51


ABC News was just busted using two year old gun range footage while reporting on Turkey 'slaughtering' the kurds in the wake of a US withdrawal from the region.

This video right here appearing to show Turkey's military bombing Kurd civilians in a Syrian border town. The Kurds, who fought alongside the US against ISIS now horrific reports of atrocities committed by Turkish-backed fighters on those very allies" -ABC News



https://twitter.com/x/status/1183695628288827392


And here's the footage they used - from the Knob Creek gun range in West Point, Kentucky in 2017.


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The foundations of this ongoing powerful propaganda campaign are so weak that they can only produce false news.
 
jamahir said:
What is your interest in the Syrian war ??

I follow it, though not so closely, because Syria is the last country in West Asia where Progressiveism / Socialism is the governing system. Though I must say that the Syrian Ba'ath movement should proceed more towards True Socialism.

And why should I have objection if some Muslim woman in India decides to marry a non-Muslim ?? The Muslim-majority African country of Tunisia passed a law about two years ago allowing Muslim women to marry non-Muslims. There is no sale going on there.
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I have Syrian friends. My colleagues are Syrians and in my neighborhood alone there are two Syrians families are living.
All of them despise Assad while you who I doubt ever met a Syrian in his life supports Assad which is understandable as most of the Indian Muslims are cucks in nature and can't stand for what is right.
 

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