Now what for PAF JH7B or SU 35, but both will be a psychological edge over our adversary

[zebra7]

Rafale is a twin engine beast its not Russian Su-30 that we neglect....Its French production and you are aware of French weapon strength after using mirages

Check out Su-30 MKI with Super Sukhoi Upgrade also.

 

[Zain Malik]

Who told you kid? Naval chief and their is no airforce version of J-15 , J-11D is better than J-15

Yes Aunt, I called the NAval Chief last night and he assured me that Pakistan is soon to get aircraft carrier.....By the way you not stroked you head to the wall this time.....Any reason for that....????

Check out Su-30 MKI with Super Sukhoi Upgrade also.

Well saying seriously that Su-30 is nothing....Plz don't mind that.

 

[Zain Malik]

Pakistan can't trust americans, Russians or any of those type of people. Pakistan has to find suitable stop gap solutions for the next few years and wait for China's full induction and production of the J-20 fighter. Once Pakistan gets these then can we narrow the gap with our enemies.

But we cant wait for J-20 Rafale is landing in neighborhood in 2018....

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Calm down, let the members express their views.



Don't you think China is not going to export or share any high end weapon like J-20 with anyone.

With Pakistan they have already done so. Advanced nuclear weapons with advanced missile technology. Once the J-20 is in full service with PLAAF it's only a matter of time before Pakistan receives them. Especially in light of the fact that the Chinese want to protect their vital assets in Gwadar and throughout the CPEC route.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

But we cant wait for J-20 Rafale is landing in neighborhood in 2018....

The Indians already have SU-35 so the rafale ain't going to add to their firepower. Pakistan will probably receive J-20s at the earliest in 2025 but no later than 2030. The Indians have had a much better airforce than us for the last 25 years so waiting another 10 years or so won't make much difference.

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

Frend dont argue with kids n keyboard warriors. They mow have start beliving paf is better than russian and american forces. Let them live in their lala land.

by the way sir, if you are not a key board warrior, then why are you wasting your precious time here?

 

[Zain Malik]

The Indians already have SU-35 so the rafale ain't going to add to their firepower. Pakistan will probably receive J-20s at the earliest in 2025 but no later than 2030. The Indians have had a much better airforce than us for the last 25 years so waiting another 10 years or so won't make much difference.

India don't possess SU-35 Brother.....

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

India don't possess SU-35 Brother.....

Think you'll find they do. Some posters here confirmed the Indians have around 220 SU-35 fighters.

 

[zebra7]

With Pakistan they have already done so. Advanced nuclear weapons with advanced missile technology. Once the J-20 is in full service with PLAAF it's only a matter of time before Pakistan receives them. Especially in light of the fact that the Chinese want to protect their vital assets in Gwadar and throughout the CPEC route.

Well, its good you are positive in that matter, but lets talk the present situation.

1. Why taking Rafale as threat, because they are more likely be deployed in the eastern front.

2. IAF have already lead, and the weapons are more superior, and in numbers.

3. J-20 is not cleared for export, nor it is ready right now. J-31 which is build by china for export in mind will take a decade.

4. If Chinese want to protect their vital assets in Gwadar and throughout the CPEC, than they should deploy long range SAM HQ-9 in Gwadar, than J-20.


Any way lets be realistic. In the present situation, If you take my view, than Pakistan should sit with China and Russia, and discuss seriously about the J-10B. If Pakistan is satisfied with the present Chinese WS-xx engine, than induct J-10B, and if not that make the deal with the Russian, with full MRO facilities, and spares depot in Pakistan.
Second, coustomised the J-10B with the Pakistani requirement, either from the Chinese, or the Western Avionics, and LRU's which ever gives better advantage. Increase the Air Defence, and make them stronger and the idea should be to create the Area Denial over the Pakistani Airspace.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

by the way sir, if you are not a key board warrior, then why are you wasting your precious time here?

You're link by the American claiming that some F-16s shot down advanced Russian fighter jets in training is not working. Can you repost it please.

 

[zebra7]

Think you'll find they do. Some posters here confirmed the Indians have around 220 SU-35 fighters.

No India, don't have any SU-35, it was offered to India, but India, already have SU-30. PS, the Super Sukhoi Upgrade program starting from 2017 Onwards, which will includes the BARS -- AESA upgrade, MAWS, Internal Jammer Virgilus, Aerial Decoy MK-2, will make the Super Sukhoi equivalent to Su-35, and will transform the Air Superiority Role MKI to the Multirole, Ground Attack, SEAD/DEAD specialized Combat plane, and will do the horse job for the IAF in Future.

 

[Kompromat]

This is a genuine answer: http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=171&Itemid=47

Was a genuine question but seems to have shaken a few feathers here so calm down folks

Though doubt you can call an F16 shooting down a couple of old Mig 21s or AN-32 transport airplanes as any feat.

The Afghan side were not flying any comparable planes to that what pakistan had at its disposable in a dog fight at least.

They were slated to receive Mig-29s then that you can call a fair fight.

 

[Zain Malik]

Think you'll find they do. Some posters here confirmed the Indians have around 220 SU-35 fighters.

That all are rumors.....In My view

WEll if they own that then there will be no option left for PAF rather then converting JFT into a twin engine beast.....

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No India, don't have any SU-35, it was offered to India, but India, already have SU-30. PS, the Super Sukhoi Upgrade program starting from 2017 Onwards, which will includes the BARS -- AESA upgrade, MAWS, Internal Jammer Virgilus, Aerial Decoy MK-2, will make the Super Sukhoi equivalent to Su-35, and will transform the Air Superiority Role MKI to the Multirole, Ground Attack, SEAD/DEAD specialized Combat plane, and will do the horse job for the IAF in Future.

Was responding to some indian posters here who claimed as such. I stand corrected.

 

[Zain Malik]

And Air Chief Marshal this on DEC-3-2015:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/print/78024-pakistan-to-get-fifth-generation-fighter-jets