Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

[Windjammer]

hey buddy its not crime to miss an topic and i didnt started i just reacted cause i didnt knew it happened no need to get upset

No dude I'm not blaming you, few threads were started when the news first came out and were moved into the dedicated section.

 

[Jhon Smith]

https://safety.army.mil/Portals/0/D.../Standard/Accident_Investigators_Handbook.pdf
Accident Investigator's Handbook - U.S. Army Safety Center
https://safety.army.mil/.../REPORTINGANDINVESTIGATION/REPORTINGANDIN...
procedures to assist U.S. Army Accident Investigation/Installation-level accident (CAI/IAI) ... both aviation and non-aviation (ground) accidents. Unless otherwise.

Jet Accidents could have many reasons However PAC should investage it in order to keep JF-17 for buyers choice a good jet. Lockheed Martain keep update record of crashes in order to make jet more robust
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[Areesh]

eh, so did they rescue him (pilot in the pic with his little daughter) or did a crash never take place ?

Pilot has been rescued as per media.

 

[TheNoob]

Rumor originated because the ongoing PAF exercise included a scenario about pilot being lost at sea to test PAF and PN SAR readiness. The posts on this forum were part of the scenario. I must say PAF has become really sophisticated

Nah.
You dont use a damn functional jet to excercise that.

Its probably a techinical issue.

Lets not forget, crash in JF17 is very rare.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Happened at night over Arabian sea. Either flameout or kite(the bird) into intake.

Any word on Pilot ?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

No such accident happened

 

[messiach]

We'll hear about it in the next issue of Air Forces monthly - they do report attrition to them all the time.

I'll be interested to find the reason for crash, if it is indeed confirmed by paf.

 

[Mrc]

Yes one aircraft missing since last night, there's a dedicated thread running.

https://defence.pk/threads/notify-paf-aircraft-crashes.3718/page-194

I was the most skepticle one...

 

[Dazzler]

ISLAMABAD: A commission has been formed to investigate why a Pakistani JF-17 Thunder jet crashed into the Arabian Sea earlier this week, Geo News has learnt.

According to sources, the incident took place after pilot took off on a routine exercise flight from the Masroor Airbase in Karachi on Tuesday, September 27.

The pilot, however, stayed unhurt after he skillfully managed to eject before the aircraft crashed into water.

Sources say the commission will investigate the reasons behind the crash of the aircraft and will submit its findings which will become part of the Pakistan Air Force records.

The JF-17 aircraft series is Pakistan's own jet built jointly in collaboration with China.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/116515-Authorities-investigating-JF-17-crash-into-Arabia-Sea

There is a whole freaking thread to notify crashes under the airforce section. Cant you guys read?

@Oscar , merge it please

 

[SQ8]

All PAF crash threads to be posted in the PAF aircraft crashes sticky. Future threads will be deleted without explanation.

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

All PAF crash threads to be posted in the PAF aircraft crashes sticky. Future threads will be deleted without explanation.

Is it PAF-specific rule or apply to every other airforce? Most of the time if any IAF jet crashes I see a Trollfest out there without any thread merging or deleting. Just asking no pun intended.

 

[SQ8]

Is it PAF-specific rule or apply to every other airforce? Most of the time if any IAF jet crashes I see a Trollfest out there without any thread merging or deleting. Just asking no pun intended.

PAF specific. We have a dedicated thread for it.

 

[Danish saleem]

here in this forum few members think that these birds are from 70's.

The fact is yes F-7p drives from Mig-21's, but these birds and their air frames are not from 70s. Pakistan acquired F-7s, from china, in late 80,s, and n that time these birds were few year old,

In 20's we acquired F-7PG's, which are absultly new birds, with new Engine, and Avon ices.

so perception that these birds are old are not true.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

That aircraft which crashed.Was that the 10-123 which had performed at the Paris airshow?

Three ACs were sent at the Paris airshow with their respective pilots.
10-123
13-143
13-146

Two of the pilots were mostly seen on the ground around their AC (as a representative) talking to the media and press.

Time stamp 00:25

One can't dismiss a coincidence though.

 

[Areesh]

Any word on Pilot ?

Rescued as per media.

I thought, the pilot was rescued safely?

Yes he was. As per media.