Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

[Skywalker]

Althought f-16 is lost , but the life is way more inportant than the plane itself.

Its a rare phenomena to hear about f-16 crashes, with the number of years it has gone through.

can somebody tell me how many f-16 pakistan have lost till now ?

-- most of all god bless the soul of this pilot.

Altogether 9 since the induction in 1983.

 

[Kamakazi 69]

Hmmm..... I was wondering, was this pilot near a densely populated area and thus trying his best to minimize collateral or believe he could wrestle the plane back to base that he didn't eject or were other factors at pay here.

Whatever the reason, we have lost a fine fighter pilot.

 

[Enigma SIG]

any official statement as to how the accident took place...?

 

[Arsalan]

any official statement as to how the accident took place...?

"technical fault" as they are calling it!
no details are available and dont expect that they would be made public anytime soon, anyway some person from inside the air force can some up with details but i dont think it will be wise to un cover the real story!

regards!

 

[SummerWine]

US fighter jet crashes in Afghanistan its F 15E 2 pilots dead
US fighter jet crashes in Afghanistan; 2 crew dead

U.S. fighter jet crashes in Afghanistan - 2 killed





CLOSE [X] The F-15E crash brings coalition deaths to 50 in July. That includes 26 Americans.



KABUL, Afghanistan — An American fighter jet crashed today in eastern Afghanistan, killing the two-man crew, U.S. military officials said.

The crash of the F-15E came amid what has already proven the deadliest month for Western troops in the course of the nearly 8-year-old Afghanistan conflict.

At least 50 coalition service members, including 26 Americans, have been killed so far in July. The highest previous monthly tally for Western troop fatalities in Afghanistan was 46.

American military officials have said the ongoing buildup of U.S. troops, together with a push into some previously insurgent-controlled areas, is likely to exact a rising casualty toll in coming months.

The forces of Britain and Canada, two crucial allies in the NATO coalition, have also seen a spike in fatalities this month, which has set off wrenching domestic debate in both countries about the effectiveness of Western war strategy in Afghanistan.

The cause of the jet's crash was being investigated, but military authorities said they have already ruled out the possibility that it was shot down.

"The crash was not due to hostile fire," U.S. forces in Afghanistan said in a statement

Afghan officials in Ghazni province said American troops had sealed off the crash scene.

The fighter jet, known as a Strike Eagle, is a modified version of the supersonic F-15E. It is often used to provide "close air support" — that is, to hit ground targets during combat operations.

However, U.S. military officials said they were not aware of any clashes in Ghazni at the time of the crash, which occurred at about 3:15 a.m. local time.

The military did not disclose what the fighter jet's mission was, other than that it was "conducting coalition operations."

Insurgents in Afghanistan on rare occasions have been able to bring down helicopters, but there is no known instance of them shooting down a fighter plane. Even losses of such sophisticated craft due to weather or mechanical failure are rare.

A crash last week of a helicopter carrying private military contractors in Helmand province, in Afghanistan's south, is under investigation. All six of those aboard that chopper, identified as Ukrainian nationals, were killed.

The Moldovan contractor said the helicopter was shot down, and the Taliban claimed responsibility. Helmand this month has been the scene of a wide-ranging offensive spearheaded by U.S. and British forces.

Eastern Afghanistan, where the fighter jet crashed, has also been a trouble spot for much of the summer. It borders Pakistan's volatile tribal areas, where Pakistan's military has been carrying out off-and-on operations against the Taliban in recent weeks.

A concerted campaign of missile attacks by unmanned U.S. drones in the tribal areas has also targeted militant commanders linked to the Taliban and Al Qaeda. The Taliban use the tribal areas as a springboard for attacks on Western troops across the border in Afghanistan.

Earlier this month, a U.S. serviceman went missing from a base in eastern Afghanistan. The American military has said he was presumed captured, and the Taliban claim to be holding him

 

[F-16.Net]

Note, the above photo of the busted up F-15E is from an incident that took place a RAF Lakenheath a few years back.

The jet in question was from Seymour Johnson Air Force Base. Makes it from either 335th or 336th FS.

 

[Interceptor]

I believe we may be able to get another F-16 as attrition replacement from the US given the relations. Although the loss of pilot can not be made up, I am hopeful that the US side will understand the need to make up attrition losses.

How much is a pilot worth in money in regards of training and extra, I remember that a PIA pilot is worth some $2 million in training.

Condolences for the tragic loss, we remember him as a Shaheed he will continue to serve us by other means.

 

[BATMAN]

suddenly the frequecy of mishaps has been increased.
last time we lost many highly trained commandos and officers in a helicopter crash and now even F-16 started to have accidents?
Can the reason behind be political appointments or cuts in defence budget?
We know F-16 survived the worst part of embargo...now we should have no issues in this direction.

 

[Muradk]

How much is a pilot worth in money in regards of training and extra, I remember that a PIA pilot is worth some $2 million in training.

Condolences for the tragic loss, we remember him as a Shaheed he will continue to serve us by other means.

You can never ever put a price on a soldier. Yes there is a price tag for training even if we spend 5 million $$on him in one night when you all sleep he is guarding Pakistan, he has repaid Pakistan 100 folds.

 

[oct605032048]

sorry to hear the loss of Pakistan Air Force and God bless the pilot.

 

[Arsalan]

and now a chines military aircraft is reported crashed in bejing! no reports on the make of the plane but it is being said on the news channels that a hines aircraft went down killing both pilots!

feel really sorry for them!
i think someone from the chines origin give some details as it will be reported more in detail on there media!

regards!

 

[TaimiKhan]

suddenly the frequecy of mishaps has been increased.
last time we lost many highly trained commandos and officers in a helicopter crash and now even F-16 started to have accidents?
Can the reason behind be political appointments or cuts in defence budget?
We know F-16 survived the worst part of embargo...now we should have no issues in this direction.

Well as far the crashes of helicopters are concerned, that's mostly due to the load of work being done by them. Since last few years, army aviation has been used to a maximum, so wear and tear happens, which result in mishaps. Some have been contributed to pilot error also. The recent Mi-17 in orakzai was due to pilot error and ground fire both.

As for F-16, during the embargo time period, our F-16s were flying at a very low pace due to the spare parts situation. Since, the induction of new F-16s and availability of spare parts i guess they are flying them regularly, which increases the chances of accidents. Plus, an inquiry has to be conducted, for the reason of this mishap.

 

[ironman]

Military jet crashes in China, killing both pilots ​

13:25 19/07/2009

MOSCOW, July 19 (RIA Novosti) - A Chinese military plane crashed on Sunday during preparations for counter-terrorism exercises with Russia, killing both pilots, a source in Russia's Defense Ministry said.

China's official Xinhua news agency reported earlier in the day that a fighter-bomber of the Chinese Air Force had crashed while flying over the Taonan tactical training base in the Jilin province.

The plane was to be involved in the Peace Mission 2009 exercises, scheduled to begin on July 22.

"According to our information, the pilots of the plane that crashed at the scene of joint Russian-Chinese exercises have died. This incident will not affect preparations for the drills," the source said.

About 3,000 troops, 300 armored vehicles, and over 40 aircraft and helicopters will be involved in the Russian-Chinese anti-terrorism exercises, which will take place in the two countries on July 22-26.

The first stage of the exercises - military and political consultations - will be held in Khabarovsk in Russia's Far East, and the second and third phases will take place at the Taonan proving ground outside Baichen in northeast China.

The first Peace Mission exercises were held in Russia and the eastern Chinese province of Shandong in August 2005, involving warships, aircraft and over 10,000 service personnel including naval infantry and paratroopers.

 

[Arsalan]

Military jet crashes in China, killing both pilots ​

13:25 19/07/2009

MOSCOW, July 19 (RIA Novosti) - A Chinese military plane crashed on Sunday during preparations for counter-terrorism exercises with Russia, killing both pilots, a source in Russia's Defense Ministry said.

China's official Xinhua news agency reported earlier in the day that a fighter-bomber of the Chinese Air Force had crashed while flying over the Taonan tactical training base in the Jilin province.

The plane was to be involved in the Peace Mission 2009 exercises, scheduled to begin on July 22.

"According to our information, the pilots of the plane that crashed at the scene of joint Russian-Chinese exercises have died. This incident will not affect preparations for the drills," the source said.

About 3,000 troops, 300 armored vehicles, and over 40 aircraft and helicopters will be involved in the Russian-Chinese anti-terrorism exercises, which will take place in the two countries on July 22-26.

The first stage of the exercises - military and political consultations - will be held in Khabarovsk in Russia's Far East, and the second and third phases will take place at the Taonan proving ground outside Baichen in northeast China.

The first Peace Mission exercises were held in Russia and the eastern Chinese province of Shandong in August 2005, involving warships, aircraft and over 10,000 service personnel including naval infantry and paratroopers.

prephaps a J8 i guess!!

 

[ejaz007]

My condolences to the family of the pilot. PAF lost a brave son.