Not Easy for US to do an Osama-type raid on Pak nuclear weapons: Musharaf

[Nelson]

Are you kinda confused about full scale war and special operation ? Even 5-6 dozens of SEALS is a highly optimistic estimate ... If you bring them with stealth helicopters , thats the max you can get ... Otherwise if some cargo plane is used ( again assuming the impossible ) it will ruin the whole mission because the SEALS have to be brought in secret ... Because the moment the PAF tracks them down , you know what will follow next ... Even if Stealth option is used , the SSG commandos will literally slaughter these SEALS already facing a numerical inferiority ...

and what makes you so sure that Pakistani Authorities haven't thought of such plan and deployed counter measures ? Kindly do not reply with the same " US is superpower " arguments since its making no sense whatsoever ... Instead of taking ground realities in account , you guys seem to be writing the plot for next 007 movie ...

I'm saying from the beginning that its not an easy job. The things you mentioned could be the reason US is not doing it. I'm just saying that all those things would be taken into account by US if they have plans of doing it.

Its not about super power of course- its just that they have better capabilities than Pakistan (or anyone for that matter). That makes majority of people including me to believe that US can do it if they want to but I still think they would not do it.

 

[Hafizzz]

US did their Operation Abottabad right behind Pakistan army base.. what else any proof required for their secret operation ability..
One day we will sudden see the news that Pak nukes are in US custody..

Peace..

The only reason USA did their Operation Abottabad in Pakistan is because Pakistan had already given US troops permission to be in Pakistan in the first place and Pakistan was not aware that USA would betray Pakistan by launching secret operations.

 

[Nelson]

The only reason USA did their Operation Abottabad in Pakistan is because Pakistan had already given US troops permission to be in Pakistan in the first place and Pakistan was not aware that USA would betray Pakistan by launching secret operations.

The incident you're referring has nothing to do with Pak permission. During that raid, even your radars could not detect them. They came, they did and they went- and Pak had no idea what happened in Pak. They didn't care about the permission so what were you talking about?

 

[Major Sam]

The incident you're referring has nothing to do with Pak permission. During that raid, even your radars could not detect them. They came, they did and they went- and Pak had no idea what happened in Pak. They didn't care about the permission so what were you talking about?

in reality u r totally wrong who the hell told u that that radar couldnt be able to detect these helicopters ??? 2nd have u ever read whats the stealth mean ?

 

[Nelson]

in reality u r totally wrong who the hell told u that that radar couldnt able to detect these helicopters ??? 2nd have ever ead whats the stealth mean ?

Just trying to say that there was no permission required from Pak for that operation. Yes, I heard about stealth for the first time when they carried the operation in abbotabad.

 

[PoKeMon]

in reality u r totally wrong who the hell told u that that radar couldnt be able to detect these helicopters ??? 2nd have u ever read whats the stealth mean ?

OBL raid was breach of pakistan sovereignity with no prior approval or informing the pakistan authorities. Even drone attacks are approved or not is a moot topic as well.

Seals operate from outside pak and use stealth chopper. Any doubt?? wanna discuss stealth??

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@thread starter
the misleading and misquoted thread title has been edited
giving you warning or infraction would have resulted in a ban so its not done now but please dont repeat that next time
also this tread is moved out of Pakistan's war section as the interview was not about Pakistan's war with the terrorists.

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

WHY IS EVERYONE DISCUSSING THIS???

Its just junk. America going to launch raid on Pak nukes, SURE! If they know where are these nukes located..

 

[PoKeMon]

Hey guys,

what if India choose not to be a part of US/NATO invasion/arial attack on pak nuclear and delivery facilities. They may not take control of all nuclear arms but can neutralize most of the weapon location. Remember, pak nukes are in demated form. Pakistan can't target US with its missile. Best they can do is to target US base in Afghan or Iraq and thats too on a foreign land.

Will they still nuke india before submission??

Pak strength lies on their high number of nuclear arsenal. With depleted usable nukes, will they still go for nuking 2-5 indian cities when they know it will result in complete annihilation of pak?

Its purely a hypothesis. What you think?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Indian, american, israel, nato air force simultaneously launching an attack at multiple fronts.
One group involved in taking down paf while the other taking nuke facility to reduce resistances for sf's (simultaneously).
While this is going on sf's need to be dropped to secure the nukes and the installations.

Indian, american navy enforcing a blockade.
Indian amphibious and us marine force opening multiple fronts across pak.
India should execute cold start.

The success of this operation will rely on how efficiently all this action is taken simultaneously without any glitch and how well researched action plan india, usa, israel & nato come up with.

This should be well practiced before hand in the guise of joint exercise so enemy has little or no doubt.

loads and loads of intel needed for this.

perhaps its good time to offer our nukes to all anti-India entities' how about that as a response for your misadventure?

 

[GURU DUTT]

perhaps its good time to offer our nukes to all anti-India entities' how about that as a response for your misadventure?

Thanks irfan , really you spelt out what indians & americans were trying to say all the while ....

 

[PoKeMon]

perhaps its good time to offer our nukes to all anti-India entities' how about that as a response for your misadventure?

No I dont think so its a good idea on long terms. You may agree with me if I say several anti India/US entities have turned anti Pak lately.

 

[blackops]

its no joke to go out in a secrete facility protected by 100's of highly trained guards and do such things and that to they all are not in just one place but in 100's os location around pakistan its no joke to go and do it guys get over it for once

 

[Nelson]

perhaps its good time to offer our nukes to all anti-India entities' how about that as a response for your misadventure?

That would mean that you have to use your nukes against Pakistan. That's the only anti-India entity we can think of right now. We don't want that to be happened though.

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

Hey guys,

what if India choose not to be a part of US/NATO invasion/arial attack on pak nuclear and delivery facilities. They may not take control of all nuclear arms but can neutralize most of the weapon location. Remember, pak nukes are in demated form. Pakistan can't target US with its missile. Best they can do is to target US base in Afghan or Iraq and thats too on a foreign land.

Well, No. Right now our best move will be to block NATO supplies. Further we can threat to nuke Israel to warn US/NATO of any raid on our nuclear assets. .