Not Easy for US to do an Osama-type raid on Pak nuclear weapons: Musharaf

[tjpf]

How exactly do you keep the airlifting of 1000' of SF literally a secret ? Securing nukes are another matter ... Try to land here first ... Do you know once upon a time Israel planned such kind of raid ? Asked India for help , your country refused , it knew the outcome of such a thing ... If not even 8000's are guarding each installation , then even your SF's wont be more than 1000 for each nuclear facility and God knows how many we have !!! By the time you mess with the commandos , half the army will pull in ... Will you airlift another 50k soldiers by stealth helicopters afterwards ? The commandos used during OBL raid were just about 2 dozens not more ... You plan to bring in around 3000 ? How smuggle them perhaps ?

who wants to smuggle them take over the asset and hold them till the army clears way for transport of those warheads.
When AF of all these nations bombing installation and targeting PAF do you think PAF can withstand the onslaught??
Will your army concentrate on IA who are inside your territory or concentrate on the nukes alone???
By the way there will be continuous bombing going on to take down resistance.
SF's will be dropped when these resistance are bombed to hell and also the SF's will take care of the remaining resistance.

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and Be prepared to kiss a melancholic good bye to its very existence and wet dreams of countering China

when everything happens simultaneously i wonder how you will have time for that.
blindfold belief that China will rescue ain't good for Pakistan.

 

[Doctor09]

nuclear weapons are not sitting like OBL in small house nor they are lying on roadside so USA will come and take these with them..... they are safely guarded and you need a large army to get our all nuclear weapons and if you left any single weapon in PAK after any such attempt then GOODBYE USA ....and you can take weapons but we can make more and and after this dont think that this world remain safe for USA

 

[Secur]

who wants to smuggle them take over the asset and hold them till the army clears way for transport of those warheads.
When AF of all these nations bombing installation and targeting PAF do you think PAF can withstand the onslaught??
Will your army concentrate on IA who are inside your territory or concentrate on the nukes alone???
By the way there will be continuous bombing going on to take down resistance.
SF's will be dropped when these resistance are bombed to hell and also the SF's will take care of the remaining resistance.

when everything happens simultaneously i wonder how you will have time for that.
blindfold belief that China will rescue ain't good for Pakistan.

We have more than 5 millions on active duty so who will do what remains out of the question ! Continuous bombing ai'nt gonna help those who will be fighting with SSG's and facing a 3:1 disadvantage in underground facilities ! and at the very news of people trying to sneak in , Pakistan will start launch sequence , it ai'nt gonna help you coz we cant launch nukes at US of A or NATO but we can at Israel or India
Half the army can pull in at 30 minutes notice at worst ... So the people already facing a 3:1 disadvantage will be slaughtered So you can automatically think who's gonna be affected worst ... you need to bring them in ? how do you bring in some 2000 commandos and at the same time keeping it secret until they engage the enemy ? Using stealth helicopters ... Even in the best case scenario this will take a month to bring them in ...

India will be nuked ... It will kiss a melancholic good bye to its dreams ( even though wet ) of becoming super power and competing with China ...

 

[tjpf]

We have more than 5 millions on active duty so who will do what remains out of the question ! Continuous bombing ai'nt gonna help those who will be fighting with SSG's and facing a 3:1 disadvantage in underground facilities ! and at the very news of people trying to sneak in , Pakistan will start launch sequence , it ai'nt gonna help you coz we cant launch nukes at US of A or NATO but we can at Israel or India So you can automatically think who's gonna be affected worst ... you need to bring them in ? how do you bring in some 2000 commandos and at the same time keeping it secret until they engage the enemy ? Using stealth helicopters ... Even in the best case scenario this will take a month to bring them in ...

India will be nuked ... It will kiss a melancholic good bye to its dreams ( even though wet ) of becoming super power and competing with China ...

and all this while i was thinking of presenting a point of view to you but based on your replies you are a proper fanboy.
Who said there will be a 3:1 ratio and as i said earlier we should not be naive thinking pakistan won't nuke India to scare away USA.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.
All the more reason for us to get involved.

 

[Devil Soul]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistans-war/139155-700-trainees-joined-spd-security-force.html#post2263459.The batch had successfully completed six months of vigorous advanced training in various realms of nuclear security.It may be re-called that SPD has undertaken a comprehensive plan to significantly augment its existing capacity through induction of additional 8000 personnel in its Nuclear security force.

 

[Secur]

and all this while i was thinking of presenting a point of view to you but based on your replies you are a proper fanboy.
Who said there will be a 3:1 ratio and as i said earlier we should not be naive thinking pakistan won't nuke India to scare away USA.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.
All the more reason for us to get involved.

The first post you made here about keeping such a big operation a secret proved you a fanboy ... Our secret agencies dont exactly sleep you know and What can i do if you dont even understand the most basic numbers and concept of logistics ? You are assuming that 2000's commandos will achieve numerical superiority on some 8000 SSG commandos + the army in reserve ... Sorry that is not possible ... Never happens ...

You are always welcome my friend

Mutual Assured Destruction, or mutually assured destruction (MAD), is a doctrine of military strategy and national security policy in which a full-scale use of high-yield weapons of mass destruction by two opposing sides would effectively result in the complete, utter and irrevocable annihilation of both the attacker and the defender,[1]

 

[Alchemy]

For starters , Mush had claimed that its "impossible" for OBL to be in Pakistan !

Moreover , if not all nukes even if USA does a sting operation to take out a few pak nukes would be major embarrassment for Pak establishment !

 

[third eye]

While one appreciates the sentiment behind Mush's remarks and the fact that the nukes are spread out.

Its worth remembering not long ago Mush would say with conviction the OBL was not in Pakistan .

Instead of removing nukes, removing the delivery methods would serve the same purpose. If it comes to a head and confirmed intel says so, there is no telling what can happen.

The bottom line is never say never again.

 

[Frank Martin]

Oh please not again..we already had similiar discussions..unless there is a full scale war between US and Pakistan there is far too less or 0 chance to snatch a n-warhead from Pakistan..better to dump this kind of discussion and move on.

 

[Secur]

Instead of removing nukes, removing the delivery methods would serve the same purpose. If it comes to a head and confirmed intel says so, there is no telling what can happen.

Far more difficult !!! Spread out in land , air and in future sea ... We are discussing a situation where US of A cant even snatch 100 nukes and you are talking about literally 1000's of missiles ...

 

[majesticpankaj]

The myth of unbreakable pakistani security have been busted by mehran attack along with hundred of suicide attacks acroos pakistan. Pakistan didn't able to defend her "strategic assets" against terrorists.

 

[Secur]

The myth of unbreakable pakistani security have been busted by mehran attack along with hundred of suicide attacks acroos pakistan. Pakistan didn't able to defend her "strategic assets" against terrorists.

How can you stop a suicide attack for instance ? Lets hear it from you ... Please enlighten us ...

 

[Emmie]

The myth of unbreakable pakistani security have been busted by mehran attack along with hundred of suicide attacks acroos pakistan. Pakistan didn't able to defend her "strategic assets" against terrorists.

What? How about your security man? Have you been able to stop stealing of Uranium? Kindly elaborate law and order situation in your country, its worst. So think hundred times before posting such BS.

 

[Emmie]

How can you stop a suicide attack for instance ? Lets hear it from you ... Please enlighten us ...

What will he enlighten us? You better ask him to enlighten his own country at first...

 

[majesticpankaj]

What? How about your security man? Have you been able to stop stealing of Uranium? Kindly elaborate law and order situation in your country, its worst. So think hundred times before posting such BS.

don't divert from the topic -- your strategic assets have been destroyed by terrorists. even your military bases and GHQ are not safe