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No J-10B for PAF | A.C Khalid, calls for a focus on 5th generation platform instead.

According to Kaiser Tufail Blk 3 are not even under discussion as alot of R&D has to be done for its design for making it stealth. In presence of FC-31 i dont think blk 3 wll ever be produced by us. Its same like inventing wheel again intead of improving whats available from china. I am sure FC-31 will be acquired as replacement of blk 3
 
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I do not know what fetish do Pakistanis have---stealth JF 17---twin tail JF 17---twin engine JF 17---. This aircraft is what it is---small---practical---capable---excellent weapons package---the only thing we need is the numbers---that is all.
 
The gap between PAF and IAF was greatest of history in 2001-02 stand-off.....and IAF couldn't launch even a surgical strike inside Pakistan territory back then.

After that, Gap has only been decreasing and this trend would continue in coming future, Inshallah :coffee:

In 2008, premiere IAF fighter, a fully armed Su-30MKI, entered Pakistani Air Space during high tensions....only to be locked-on by our F-16s and later, our 7 fighter jets "escorted" India's most lethal plane back to the border :lol::lol:

After that, IAF never even dared to enter Pak's airspace during that tense time...let alone going forward with a surgical strike...let alone thinking about an open air-conflict with PAF....

In ALL previous engagements, where IAF and PAF engaged each other in shooting war, PAF was able to shoot down way more IAF aircrafts than vice versa.

See this thread started by a well-informed senior Indian member itself...

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history-strategy/38075-paf-kills-versis-iaf-kills.html

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There's nothing on the planet that can counter the PAK FA T-50 except the F-22. At least not in the next 25 years.

And then the cost of a 5th gen fighter isn't peanuts. Pakistan would need to wait till its economy grows to afford these high tech toys. So up-gradations are a viable cost effective proposition where Pakistan is concerned. India too is upgrading its Mirage, Jaguar and Su 30 fleets.
save it, T50 is a cheap one to milk India. J31 looks one more promising design than T50. For me, T50 is more like a updated S35, not a brand new design. It's about the money invested.

J31 is the proper and affordable 5th gen design for developing countries, it breaks the stealthy fighters monopoly of the west. There is no other developing countries in the world can design a product like J31 in this planet. I'm pround of being a CHinese.
 
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save it, T50 is a cheap one to milk India. J31 looks one more promising design than T50. For me, T50 is more like a updated S35, not a brand new design. It's about the money invested.

J31 is the proper and affordable 5th gen design for developing countries, it breaks the stealthy fighters monopoly of the west. There is no other developing countries in the world can design a product like J31 in this planet. I'm pround of being a CHinese.

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There is nothing to be mocked, we have 5 J20 prototypes and 1 J31 prototype. you have non FGFA.

Acutally the timeline for PAF going J31 shall be around year 2020.

Bullshit,,u don't even have a good chinese engine or radar to show for as of now.
Don't joke here comparing a dud like j-31 with pakfa.

Even j-20 stands no chance against pakfa electronics and power when it has type 30 engines by 2018-20.
The radar alone has 2300 t/r modules and is in testing since 2012,,where is j-20 radar??:lol:
 
^^ Stop ruining this thread by making illogical comparisons.
 
Bullshit,,u don't even have a good chinese engine or radar to show for as of now.
Don't joke here comparing a dud like j-31 with pakfa.

Even j-20 stands no chance against pakfa electronics and power when it has type 30 engines by 2018-20.
The radar alone has 2300 t/r modules and is in testing since 2012,,where is j-20 radar??:lol:
Don' take your father's tool to compare Chinese indigenous top notch weapon, Russia don't TOT you. just accept the ground the reality that India is outgun by China, why is that difficult for you? just look at the zig-zag belly of T50, is that called a stealthy fighter?

^^ Stop ruining this thread by making illogical comparisons.
Indians never learn things.
 
Don' take your father's tool to compare Chinese indigenous top notch weapon, Russia don't TOT you. just accept the ground the reality that India is outgun by China, why is that difficult for you? just look at the zig-zag belly of T50, is that called a stealthy fighter?


Indians never learn things.

Zig-zag belly:rofl::rofl:
U are as deluded as soviet union was due to lack of information in those days,,,believeing govt propaganda without even thinking.

Ur fighter

1)Has inferior radar untill proven otherwise which u cannot do as u have 0 idea.

2)100% inferior engine
3)100% inferior missiles
4)100% inferior agility

Still pakfa is dud:rofl:
 
Bullshit,,u don't even have a good chinese engine or radar to show for as of now.
Don't joke here comparing a dud like j-31 with pakfa.

Even j-20 stands no chance against pakfa electronics and power when it has type 30 engines by 2018-20.
The radar alone has 2300 t/r modules and is in testing since 2012,,where is j-20 radar??:lol:
Now J20 prototype 2013 is installed with a 14 tons thrust power WS10 series, and WS15 of 17 tons thrst power will be ready before year 2018. you better open your eyes big, or you will get caught off guard. We invest billions in engine R&D, the avergae age of design team members is only 35 years old. You try to comapre, just work harder.
 
Now J20 prototype 2013 is installed with a 14 tons thrust power WS10 series, and WS15 of 17 tons thrst power will be ready before year 2018. you better open your eyes big, or you will get caught off guard. We invest billions in engine R&D, the avergae age of design team members is only 35 years old. You try to comapre, just work harder.

Not 1 picture to support the claim.
And chinese engines have a life of 1500-2000 hours maximum otherwise ws-10 would be used for jf-17.

Why its not used??
 
Zig-zag belly:rofl::rofl:
U are as deluded as soviet union was due to lack of information in those days,,,believeing govt propaganda without even thinking.

Ur fighter

1)Has inferior radar untill proven otherwise which u cannot do as u have 0 idea.

2)100% inferior engine
3)100% inferior missiles
4)100% inferior agility

Still pakfa is dud:rofl:
Ok, we will see in the battlefield. We cant wait that long before FGFA roll out, better take your time. Or J20/J31 will be very lonely fly in Tibet sky, hah?

Not 1 picture to support the claim.
And chinese engines have a life of 1500-2000 hours maximum otherwise ws-10 would be used for jf-17.

Why its not used??
WS10 is too big for JF17 to hold, learn some basic.
 
Ok, we will see in the battlefield. We cant wait that long before FGFA roll out, better take your time. Or J20/J31 will be very lonely fly in Tibet sky, hah?

Again evading my question.

China has yet to make a radar equal to even irbis-e of su-35(aerial radars),,,what makes u think they will make a better radar than n036 of pakfa??
 
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