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It was not just about the position of PN but according to P Shamim Sahab the China had reservations about selling their most latest conventional sub to Pakistan due to our close relations with USA.
True but my question is still there. If we dont have any second striek platform then what is purpose of having a HQ of NSFC?
The Force, which is the custodian of the nation’s 2nd strike capability, will strengthen Pakistan’s policy of Credible Minimum Deterrence and ensure regional stability.
Yes, failed twice.Rumor has it, it was not successful initially
this also has another implication.. only the A90Bs would be capable enough to launch any kind of cruise missile as of now.. Qings are still short of a couple of years to being inducted.. but the launch tubes of A90Bs were too small for a cruise missile the size of babur.. that leaves 2 assumptions..
1.) the size of babur has been reduced to fit inside the tube but then why would a canister be required to launch a cruise missile in this case anyway?? Do exocets require a canister launch system as they can be launched from the tubes.. and reducing the size of the missile would decrease the size of the warhead.. would a cruise missile with a warhead the size of Nasr be enough for the operational envelop as Nasr is supposed to be a battlefield nuke..
2.) if the size remains the same and the canister launch system is not intended for torpedo tubes, then that means that the A90Bs have been modified to launch a cruise missile from a vertically placed canister launch system..
Yes! I guess these statements gives the true picture of our current second strike platform status.....Well Yes "apparently" we don't have a platform. But the purpose might be
1 Developing second strike capability for present platforms we have(Augusta 90b, F22p)
2 Developing second strike capability for future platforms we might have(Qing class sub, Nuke sub)
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Err, no...you are misunderstanding the "Canister"...
The canister is just an independent platform for testing i.e. no Submarine is involved. The Canister is submerged and the missile is launched Horizontally, acting like a Torpedo Tube.
1. The size is the same (most probably). Now if the Torpedo Tubes of Agosta-90B are smaller (which I don't know for sure), then perhaps the Babur SLCM will be fielded on the Qings. Until then, it will be tested through the canister system.
2. No, Babur SLCM is being configured to be launched through the torpedo tubes of a Submarine (i.e. horizontally) for now.
thanks for clearing that up.. well wikipedia may not be a good source but it does state that the A90Bs carry the black shark torpedo in its arsenal.. and its dimensions match those of babur..
Black Shark:
length = 6300mm = 6.3m
diameter = 533mm = 0.533m
Babur:
length = 6.25m
diameter = 0.52m
so that removes my misconception regarding babur being able to fit inside the A90Bs.. the rumor was probably due to the fact that the Israelis got their dolphins modified to house 650mm torpedo tubes to fire SLCMs..
There has been no failure of SL-Babur, you heard it from me. Different tests have different parameters.