National Air Defense Command (NADCOM) - Updates & Discussions.

[Kompromat]

New canister TEL for KS-1A.

 

[trident2010]

So any new SAMs inducted with PAF?

 

[Kompromat]

@trident2010

The most latest induction is MBDA-SPADA 2000.

www.mbda-systems.com/mediagallery/files/aspide-2000_ds.pdf

4 Chinese origin systems are being eveluated.

 

[Viper 94]

pakistan needs to reduce the budget of the army and divert it to the navy and air force
air force and navy are the real war winners army is just there to man the area clear by the air force

also we have to improve our air defense system we do have enough radar coverage through land based radars and awacs
but we lack enough SAMs to counter advance air threats
pakistan has many types of advance man portable system and anti aircraft guns
but spada is the only SAM system that is advance enough others are aging such as SA-2 or crotale

 

[Neptune]

Can anybody notify and provive detailed information regarding active air radars of PAF, meanwhile i want to learn the radar systems of Pakistan. thx

 

[imiakhtar]

Can anybody notify and provive detailed information regarding active air radars of PAF, meanwhile i want to learn the radar systems of Pakistan. thx

Lockheed Martin TPS-77 for long range surveillance:

Ground-Based Air Surveillance Radars · Lockheed Martin

I don't know about the rest.

 

[Dazzler]

Can anybody notify and provive detailed information regarding active air radars of PAF, meanwhile i want to learn the radar systems of Pakistan. thx

some that i know about..

Marconi Type 992 radar

TRS 2215 3-D radar & TRS 2230 3-D radar

AN/ALR-69 radar warning receiver


Mobile Pulse Doppler Radar

1.AR-1/15Six: AR-1 radars were installed in 1968-9. They have a range of 150 km.

2.MPDR45: MPDRs were obtained from Siemens of Germany in 1979-80. They are
controlled from six control and reporting centers which are also mobile. The three versions
available with Pakistan are :

MPDR 45 (with 45 km. range)

MPDR 60 (with 60 km. range)

MPDR 90 (with 90 km. range)




Long Range Radar Systems

Lockheed AN/TPS-77 or AN/FPS-117

YLC-2
YLC-2 Radar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


YLC-6 Radar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


AN/TPS-43 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





FPS-89/100:
There are two installations, at Sakesar near Sargodha and Badin in the Thar desert. They are modernized versions of the US-supplied MAP radar, the FPS-6/20. The former is the height-finder, the latter is the search radar with a 350 km range. Sakesar also has a Plessey HF-200 height-finder acquired in 1967. Badin's FPS-6 was destroyed in the 1965 war and was replaced with a Chinese height- finder.

Type 514: This is a Chinese system first acquired in 1978. It is known to be installed at Skardu and Gilgit in the Northern areas and at other locations. No other details are available.

Condor: The high-level system was acquired from the UK in 1968 and serves with Nos. 400, 403 and 410 Squadrons.

TPS-43G: This transportable radar is expected to remain in first line US service till 2010. Pakistan purchased sis systems at a cost of $60 million and all were commissioned by 1985. It consists of two modules, each less than 3 tons, and can be transported by two 5-ton trucks, a C-130, or two medium-lift helicopters. A six-man team can reassemble the radar within 50 minutes. It's high-level range is 400 km, but its low-level range is classified. It is a 3D system with a 4 megawatt output. The system was the second phase of Project Crystal initiated in 1976 to provide Pakistan with a modern air defence system.

Thomson-CSF ATC: As far back as 1984 the Pakistan Government planned a modern Air Traffic Control System that could be netted into its ADGE. Possibly owing to financial stringency, the six radar started arriving only in 1987. The Pakistani ATC radar are at Pasni, Jiawani, Karachi, Rahim Yar Khan, Lahore and Rawalpindi. Though the locations correspond strictly to Pakistan's growing civil air traffic routes, they are ideally placed to boost early warning from the Indian frontier.

It is of interest that in 1969 two Soviet P.35 high-level radar are PRV height-finders were installed, being decommissioned in 1979 owing to maintenance and spares difficulties.

Low Level Radar Systems

AR-1/6 Radar: In 1968-69 six AR-1 Plessey low level radars were installed, followed by 3 of the mobile versions, called AR-15. The range is about 150 km.

MPDR: very major investment was made between 1979-80 in 45 Mobile Pulse Doppler Radars acquired from Siemens of Germany. These are called the SILLACS MPDR 45/E. SILLACS stand for Siemens Low Level Air Defence Control System. They are controlled from six Control and Reporting Centers which are also mobile, and correspond presumably the PAF's six MPDR wings.

Each CRC can control up to 8 radars; the CRC is data-linked to the Sector Operations Center. According to Janes Weapons System 1987-88 edition, there are two fully mobile versions one with 45km range another with 60 km. There is a third version, transportable, with a 90 km range. The first two are single vehicle system with a radar mast extendable to 18 meters and a shelter for the operating crew. The CRC is in two units, a shelter with 4 workstations and two assistant's positions and power generators on trailers.

The MPDR project was the first phase of Project Crystal.

US Low Level Systems
Pakistan has been buying US-low level systems, probably the TPS-63 or 70 or both. One such buy for four low-level air defence radars was identified in a march 1990 list to the US Congress.

It may be noted that Pakistan has the capability to completely overhaul all radars except the Chinese type 514s and possibly the US TPS-43.

 

[monitor]

Pakistan Air Force will ink a contract with China’s state-owned Aerospace Long-March International Trade Co Ltd (ALIT) for acquiring a Regiment of the 70km-range LY-80E LR-SAM.

 

[NKVD]

Pakistan Air Force will ink a contract with China’s state-owned Aerospace Long-March International Trade Co Ltd (ALIT) for acquiring a Regiment of the 70km-range LY-80E LR-SAM.

china’s state-owned Aerospace Long-March International Trade Co Ltd (ALIT) has developed a new-generation medium-range surface-to-air missile (MR-SAM), called the LY-80E, which can neutralise a wide range of airborne threats, ranging from manned combat aircraft to cruised missiles.LY-80E’s maximum/minimum interception altitude is 18km/15 metres, while its maximum interception range for combat aircraft is 40km, and between 3.5km and 12km for cruise missiles flying at an altitude of 50 metres at a speed of 300 metres/second.Single-shot kill probability is a claimed figure of 85 per cent against combat aircraft, and 60 per cent against cruise missiles. The MR-SAM rounds are cannisterised, and are cold-launched in vertical mode. The missile guidance system is of the composite type, comprising initial independent inertial guidance plus intermittent illumination, and semi-active homing terminal guidance. A single LY-80E MFV can engage four targets simultaneously, and the entire system has a reaction time of 12 seconds.

 

[monitor]

Indian defence blog trisul blogspot reporting Pakistan Air force will sign contact fro a regiment of LY-80E SAM system in Zhuhai Air show 2014

 

[monitor]

 

[he-man]

Well we will have barak-8,,so its all fine

 

[SQ8]

Well we will have barak-8,,so its all fine

That statement is the intellectual equivalent of a 4 year old fighting with another claiming that his father's rolex is better than the other fellow's Patek. Then you wonder why you get warning for low quality posts.

The barak has little to do with the purchase of PAF's sam. The Barak and Ly-80 will not be duelling it out sunshine.

 

[Armstrong]

That statement is the intellectual equivalent of a 4 year old fighting with another claiming that his father's rolex is better than the other fellow's Patek. Then you wonder why you get warning for low quality posts.

The barak has little to do with the purchase of PAF's sam. The Barak and Ly-80 will not be duelling it out sunshine.

Yaaar Oscar naraaaz haii ?

 

[Donatello]

Good news, can complement Spada.