JonAsad
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yes at least ask that some one before going on defending that some one- -
Someone who actually calls them DEVGRU instead of SEALS!!!!
hmmm thanks. I thought so too. This totally gothic babe with studs in her tongue thinks it would look cool.
Does it pain? Can it get get caught in anything and rip your earlobe off or something?
The co-existence of both narratives is absolutely essential- in the larger context that is. You think two ideas which pit themselves against each other can ever peacefully coexist? Two societies which view each other with abject suspicion will always engage in hostilities- albeit these hostilities will be defined and driven by many factors that are prevalent- such as the nuclear umbrella which both nations have created.
If people on both sides do not find at least ONE common theme then it is only logical that both nations will continue to interfere in each others internal affairs. We do so even now despite all sorts of TBMs, track two diplomacy and exchanges among the bureaucrats.
Regression in the hostility between the two nation's ideologies is the sine qua non for peace in the subcontinent. The ideologies do not need to devolve and disappear but they will have to amend themselves in order to vitiate the existing trend of tensions in the region. I'm not even suggesting any sort of amalgamation of cultures or practices here. Antithetical is a vast leap from neutral. Even neutrality in the viewpoints of the two nations will require the masses to change the dynamics that dictate the way they view each other. Greater prosperity through economic convergence itself is not possible between societies which essentially label each other as incompatible.
Otherwise what you're referring to as peace, a peace which is a simple absence of war, has already been achieved to a large degree as far as India is concerned. After all we are not in a state of declared war. India is under no conventional threat from Pakistan, it has no threat of being subjected to hegemony, warfare by proxies or conventional military action can no longer threaten its territorial integrity. At that rate at least India might as well maintain the status quo and leave things be. A greater impetus to economic dependence and cessation of warfare through proxies will simply achieve what you want. But that will not create a scenario where the two nations can disengage their armies and reap the peace dividend.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this point.
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