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Actually no, that's exactly how operations start. The air force goes in first to soften the targets up and cause chaos among the opfor, then the ground forces move in to do the cleanup and hopefully little resistance.operations don't start like that, i think government will first allow pak army to start operation
Shadow warrior? Dude, I LOVE that game!if a threat coming one should handle instead of waiting for peace talk, that's what they did
Are...are you serious?Did PAF also pound American bases when 26 Pakistan Army soldiers were martyred in 2011 by US military?
I guess, cowardice has a limit.
Did PAF also pound American bases when 26 Pakistan Army soldiers were martyred in 2011 by US military?
I guess, cowardice has a limit.
no your ignorance , has no limitsDid PAF also pound American bases when 26 Pakistan Army soldiers were martyred in 2011 by US military?
I guess, cowardice has a limit.
I was expecting retaliation from PAF after FC jawans were killed.......
My Question is why Mir ali is always bombed through jets whenever security forces are attacked any where?.....if it is hub of taliban and foreign militants, then why not a limited scale surgical ground operation in mir ali instead of bombing them through jets again and again in the presence of congested civilian population........Simply take control of the mir ali city through ground troops.
Pakistan is the only country in the world who is using F-16 and other lethal jets on their own people......In Punjab and sindh FATA is known as "ilaqa-e-ghair", means foreign area.....Not only jets are used on these ghair/forigners people but army has also signed contract with America, giving them permission to carry out drone attacks on these ghair people.......it should have been better if America/NATO was allowed to directly do ground and air operations in FATA after all it is ilaqa e ghair..
Those who disagree with me and are of opinion that air force should be used against such dangerous terrorists then my question is why air force and heavy artillery is not used against that 30% area of karachi which is "controlled" by taliban"?......
If the purpose of using force is to intimidate taliban and local tribal population into submission and peace then thats not gonna happen.....may be there omar khalid khurasani was saying truth in one of his pashto interview that drones and artillery/air strikes helps them, as mothers of the victims give them their sons for their cause.......
where the fck are counter insurgency tactics to win the hearts and minds of local population?.....Pak army should learn thing or two from indian army who despite of taking huge losses didnt use artillary, tanks, gunship helicopters and jets on populations in kashmir.......Army used aman lashkars but kept them ill-equipped due to general distrust towards private militias....as a result those aman lashkars were butchered by taliban....army was not there to protect those malaks and tribal elders from taliban , even through army and political administration convinced them to go against taliban.....It is under FCR law that Political agent can arrest any tribal for not doing duty for specific time in the aman lashkar.....many tribals did the duty in aman lashkar against taliban either voluntarily or by force for specifc time.......but after that they were hunted down by taliban who were themselves were locals and knew each and every person......almost every where army first did operations, when things didnt go as planned they used tribal lashkars (after messing the situation) while they were supposed to use lashkars first with full back of state.....
As a result tribals became "tamashai", heavily armed powerful taliban took over their regions, they had no choice but to assume neutral postion.....then powerful army came to destroy taliban but in the process also destroyed houses, crops and lives of tribals and displaced them.....now Pakistanis are questioning their morality, integrity, patriotism and what not.......
not our neighbourhoods, but TTp terrorists hubs!Yeah, keep taking CSF payments from the US and keep destroying your neighbourhoods. Perfect logic.
These TTP are monster criminals but not bigger than our political and military mafias who are the biggest beneficiaries of the $11 billion they got to destroy their own country since 2001. This war has sent Pak back another 10 years not to mention over $80 billion in losses.
I am losing faith in the military establishment which has joined hands with the political/business mafias to sell the country to the highest foreign bidders. The country is on a constant downward evolution, zardari wanted to sell the nukes for $100 billion, I'm sure this dumb Nawaz might try selling it for cheaper through the Saudis.
Yeah, keep taking CSF payments from the US and keep destroying your neighbourhoods. Perfect logic.
These TTP are monster criminals but not bigger than our political and military mafias who are the biggest beneficiaries of the $11 billion they got to destroy their own country since 2001. This war has sent Pak back another 10 years not to mention over $80 billion in losses.
I am losing faith in the military establishment which has joined hands with the political/business mafias to sell the country to the highest foreign bidders. The country is on a constant downward evolution, zardari wanted to sell the nukes for $100 billion, I'm sure this dumb Nawaz might try selling it for cheaper through the Saudis.
Actually no, that's exactly how operations start. The air force goes in first to soften the targets up and cause chaos among the opfor, then the ground forces move in to do the cleanup and hopefully little resistance.
These TTP are monster criminals but not bigger than our political and military mafias who are the biggest beneficiaries of the $11 billion they got to destroy their own country since 2001. This war has sent Pak back another 10 years not to mention over $80 billion in losses.
Okay, what do you think is the solution? I'm asking because the talks have clearly failed. What would you suggest that Pakistan does to stop the war? Don't say jobs and education, because that's a cop out answer.
What about the terrorist hubs in karachi being operated by political militant wings? If bombing is the solution, Why not send F16s and bomb those as well? After all they have killed thousands of civilians, hundreds of police officers army/rangers the last two decades.not our neighbourhoods, but TTp terrorists hubs!
Pakistan is the only country in the world who is using F-16 and other lethal jets on their own people..
Simple Solution: A center-right strong and genuine democratic government that has the best interests of the people at heart. With a crystal clear vision they would have to take bold political decisions to get Pakistan out of this quagmire. I deeply do believe that Pakistan can get out of this mess politically and diplomatically through bargaining with the US.Come out of the past , propose a solution for the current mess . The coalition since the 80's with U.S. is just another debate , what to do now is the real question .