The same way , murder and intimidation of the Hindu Pandits by the Islamic separatists seems exxagerated to you,the claims of brutalities by the Indian Army sounds like hyper-exxageration to me.
So lets agree to disagree and you will not be able to convince any Indian that only Muslims have been subjected to brutalities.The Hindu Pandits have undergone far worse condition during those burning 90s.
Once again hiding from the ground reality and trying to justify the tyrannical approach to the suppression of Kashmiris by diverting the discussion.
The fact is that you are rather focusing on half cooked stories of ethnic cleansing of Hindus in the valley despite the census data which is available throughout the last century, only to build up justifications for hating those Kashmiris who are openly anti India.
This fact of yours has never had any global recognition nor sympathy since a mass anti Muslim genocide is contrary to recognized census data.
You would rather dwell in such stories as to justify the ugly truth that is now visible in Kashmir?
A perfect recipe to ensure that Kashmiris are permanently split from India, suits me but for the innocent lives lost.
I completely agree to disagree with you.
Neither in Most of the princely states,if not all, did the people have a choice.It was the choice of the ruler that mattered and the power at your disposal during a period of free for all.
So no use in harping about that now.
"Might is Right" mate.The Indian state at that time had the power to enforce its rule in Junagadh,while the same thing when imitated by Pakistan in Kashmir fell on its face.
Well the reason for my perceived
harping about that was to bring to attention the fact that State of India did indeed
harp about the will of the people before subjugating the princely states.
The continuous failing to see the significance of the will of the people in Kashmir is the
root cause of the problem.
Once India deliberately fails to see or recognize the problem, it cannot come up with any suitable long term answer except brute force.
The result of such a policy is now in the streets.
If they feel they as Muslims,they cant live in Hindu India they can very well move on to Pakistan like the millions who did during Partition on both sides.No one really stops them.
It is their land and their will, the will of the people, it always bites one in the behind if ignored.
The people who moved out at the time of partition were moving out from minority areas.
Kashmiri Muslims have always been in over 90% majority in the Valley so why should they feel inclined to leave their land?
The state is protecting the silent majority who get played upon by the separatists for their own narrow gains and more importantly there for protecting something called "Territorial Integrity" from external and internal aggressors.
If the Kashmiri Muslims want any respite from these so called rapes and other claims,let them agree to the INdian constitution.
What narrow gains are you talking about?
Thousands of unarmed civilians do not come out in the streets for narrow gains!
They come out in numbers because of the injustices which are perpetrated to suppress them because of their independence oriented mindset which is in direct clash with India.
They want respite from these rapes and brutal tactics but not by recognizing the Indian constitution because the State which represents this holy constitution is the same one which turns a deliberate blind eye when these people are raped, tortured and killed.
So called rapes?
You really are living in denial.
You are deliberately ignoring the facts on ground and the reason for the rapes etc.
The reason is that there is no dread of the State holding the perpetrators accountable since the victims are Kashmiri Muslims who are not loyal to the state.
As long as the out of line brutes know that they can get away unless they leave too much evidence, they shall r ape and kill more and more.
Brutes are in every society, however if they find a gray area which is left unchecked...they will take advantage of it again and again, since they can protect themselves by saying that they are being framed by anti state forces, however the number of Kashmiris protesting various incidents refuted by the state indicates that there is a public outrage and anger which leads one to believe that there is indeed a tendency to cover up and sweep things under the carpet.
The silent majority you are talking about is not silent anymore, and yes everyone does not have equal courage to come out in the streets when they are dragged away and selectively raped, tortured and killed by people who are without any real fear of accountability.
So called r ape?
The controversial cases of 2009 which were investigated and authenticate by judicial inquiry and initial autopsy were later dismissed after carrying out a most controversial medical test three months after burial.
The situation is so bad because the state even wants to deny the rapes leave alone investigate them and punish those responsible.
Keep on carrying out things like this and the Kashmiri youth would turn to arms in larger numbers till there will be nothing left but ashes and dust in Kashmir for India.
Lets face it - both you and I know very well that India will not budge on Kashmir for anything in the world.If lives have to be sacrificed/taken for that..It will be.
The sooner all parties come to terms with the reality the better for all.
Now there are three parties here, Pakistan and Kashmiris have no major issues between them and will agree on the demands, whereas Indian interest is not in favor of the Kashmir Muslim views and the more it pursues this interest via military means, the more hostile the Kashmiri Muslims in the valley become towards India.
I agree that India will not budge here since all present indicators show that India has discarded a soft approach, now it is about holding on to the piece of land and keeping the mostly disloyal and treacherous population in check with all means necessary.
The bilateral resolution of Kashmir issue between Pakistan and India as suggested by India is just a diplomatic charade being played since a long time.
India has no intention of budging an inch here and would like to keep Kashmiris out of the discussion despite the fact that they have a right to be part of dialogue.
Had this bilateral dialogue produced something the issue could have been settled but as time passes by, i do not think anything can be done without a trilateral dialogue.
The more i read the Indian views the more i am convinced that the onus lies on Pakistan to ensure that Kashmiris have a meaningful support and there is enough international awareness to force a dialogue.
To expect India to stop on its own and seek dialogue is absolutely a foolish notion since India has already gone beyond the point of no return with the Kashmiri population.
The fact that Kashmiris in Pakistan are content indicates to India that it shall not gain any territory but only lose ground if there is a trilateral dialogue, hence it is averse to it.
Without some flexibility there can be no meaningful dialogue on Kashmir, without a meaningful dialogue there can be no meaningful peace in this region and without meaningful peace we are all condemned to remain in this state of mutual dislike and mistrust.
In a nutshell, for present day India a peace with Pakistan and Kashmiris is not worth the loss of Kashmir valley, not even a little loss.
Without even slight adjustments, i really do not see any golden era of stability being ushered in, no matter how much advances are made in this region.
Somehow the miracle has to be performed where India sees advantage in dialogue, maybe as the situation worsens there may be reconsideration to address this issue...certainly not a desirable course but that is what i perceive.
Kashmir is most important to resolve because it is definitely the major issue between the two major countries in South Asia, once there is some advancement here...both countries can have much more internal stability since they can support each other and cooperate without fear of manipulation and betrayal.
I am not full of hate nor do i want Pakistan and India to be at each others throats, yet how can there be peace when hearts and minds are at war?
Anyways i think i have said all what i wanted to say...just left wondering one thing
Is a false peace better than an honest and open disagreement/hostility?
Surely one cannot be both not peaceful and yet friendly.
Friendship demands trust and we lack that big time.
Yet many here want friendship between the two states.
..FYI - I am a Tamil and does it look like im asking for secession from India.? 
