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You seem to have much hardened position on Kashmir then of your own government. Off late I haven’t seen any of the Pakistan’s Minister or official harping on UN referendum… Not even in the press conference of the foreign ministers

Coz then u Indians will start the propaganda tht Pakistani is involved in
the violent protests in Indian Held Kashmir.so they are just watching it quietly .
 
Pak rakes up Kashmir issue with US

PTI, Jul 19, 2010, 04.19pm IST

ISLAMABAD: With US secretary of state Hillary Clinton by his side, Pakistan foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Monday raked up the Kashmir issue and said his country wants a sustained dialogue with India.

Qureshi, who has been blowing hot and cold against India in the last few days after a deadlock in the Indo-Pak talks, said, "sustaining dialogue with India and finding a just solution of the Kashmir dispute" was part of the "convergent interest" of US and Pakistan.

The Pakistan foreign minister referred to Kashmir and India in his opening remarks at the US-Pak strategic dialogue with Clinton here on Monday morning.

"This vision is driven by our convergent interest in the present day including fighting the twin menace of extremism and terrorism," Qureshi said, referring to the mutual interest of the two countries in the region.

During the joint press conference by Clinton and Qureshi, there was no reference to Kashmir, India or last week's meeting of the two foreign ministers.

However, diplomatic sources said Clinton told the Pakistani leadership during the Strategic Dialogue that the US wants continuation of Indo-Pak dialogue so that the two sides could amicably resolve their outstanding problems.

Clinton made the remarks after Qureshi briefed her on the meeting between the Foreign Ministers of India and Pakistan here on July 15.

"The secretary of state made it clear that the US is interested that the process between Pakistan and India should be sustained," a diplomatic source familiar with the discussions told PTI.

Pak rakes up Kashmir issue with US - Pakistan - World - The Times of India
 
I still do not understand Pakistan's Logic of Raising Kashmir Issue with US.

America Already made it Clear they will not interfere in Kashmir Issue and even they know that It cannot force up any issue on India ..

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Only Kashmiris have the right to decide their own future, they are demanding their rights. Grant them, or else they'll keep beating the crap out of your security forces.

They have right to decide their own future.

but

NO one has given the right to deattach Kashmir as a Independent State and give it to Pakistan. Not Even UNO.
 
Only Kashmiris have the right to decide their own future, they are demanding their rights. Grant them, or else they'll keep beating the crap out of your security forces.

Ok then, this is between us and the Kashmiris. How come Pakistan can't stop itself from butting in at every given opportunity? What in gods name was Pakistan thinking in '47, '65 and '99?
 
If one has to go by right to self determination as being the cause celebre for holding a referendum,then,not only India but china and pakistan would also be obligated to hold such referendums.Tibetans and Balochis want freedom too.What about Pakhtuns and the unresolved Durand line issue.
I think all of us need to get a reality check.The consequences of holding such referendums will be the birth of unviable countries,which do not have the geography,resources,political,or social structure to function as viable countries.
So the moot question is.Do we allow the creation of potentially unviable states in the name of self determination and lay the foundation for more trouble in the subcontinent or we move on with life and get stronger economically and start working for our people?
 
According Pakistan there exist Azaad Kashmir whose Capital is Muzaffarabad.

But what I do not Understand is, if it is really Azaad KAshmir then why the postal codes of its states( known as district, which is also objectionable) are as postal codes of other regions of Pakistan??
Pakistan Post Office Department

http://www.ajk.gov.pk/
why the governmental site of Azaad Kashmir is havig pk as the domain?

Why the international calling code is 0092????
Neelum

and according to UNSC Resolution1172, the resolution should contain only Mutual talks and Dialogues between Both the countries.
UNSC has not pressurised for any referendum or plebiscite or ask the people gesture.
 
According Pakistan there exist Azaad Kashmir whose Capital is Muzaffarabad.

But what I do not Understand is, if it is really Azaad KAshmir then why the postal codes of its states( known as district, which is also objectionable) are as postal codes of other regions of Pakistan??
Pakistan Post Office Department

http://www.ajk.gov.pk/
why the governmental site of Azaad Kashmir is havig pk as the domain?

Why the international calling code is 0092????
Neelum

and according to UNSC Resolution1172, the resolution should contain only Mutual talks and Dialogues between Both the countries.
UNSC has not pressurised for any referendum or plebiscite or ask the people gesture.
Why is Canada's Intl. Dialing Code +1 same as the United States?

Come forth with some ACTUAL argument. Pakistan has never pretended that AJK is independent in the sense of a free nation. However its given its rights to represent itself as a Free nation until the UN administered plebiscite takes place and they come to a decision on its actual status.
 
Ok then, this is between us and the Kashmiris. How come Pakistan can't stop itself from butting in at every given opportunity? What in gods name was Pakistan thinking in '47, '65 and '99?
There is a strong possibility Kashmiris will choose Pakistan. We're also ensuring India doesn't subjugate the Kashmiris under it's tyranny. We support the Kashmiris.

Why does the US butt into Israeli affairs? Jewish lobby?

We also have a strong Kashmiri lobby, ever heard of Nawaz Sharif? He's a Kashmiri. The concept of Pakistan was laid down by a Kashmiri, Allama Iqbal. Kashmiris form a strong component of Pakistan's economy. We aren't there just to annoy you, we're fully committed to this fight.
 
Why is Canada's Intl. Dialing Code +1 same as the United States?

Come forth with some ACTUAL argument. Pakistan has never pretended that AJK is independent in the sense of a free nation. However its given its rights to represent itself as a Free nation until the UN administered plebiscite takes place and they come to a decision on its actual status.

There is also china occupied Kashmir, why don't you protest that?????

It explains all.
 
Why don't Kashmiris protest that?

Let the Kashmiris protest that, we'll join in then.

Are you sure about that??because some of the land was ceaded by you to Chinese..China wont be very happy :)
 
for india whats the point for not conducting the referendum, its well and good for indians that in their point of view, most kashmiris do support india, so whats the problem, majority will side in the referendum and will prove once and for all that in the IOK kashmiris dont consider themselves occupied in india..

same stands for azad kashmir!!
 
Why is Canada's Intl. Dialing Code +1 same as the United States?

Come forth with some ACTUAL argument. Pakistan has never pretended that AJK is independent in the sense of a free nation. However its given its rights to represent itself as a Free nation until the UN administered plebiscite takes place and they come to a decision on its actual status.


There is No UN Administrated Plebiscite!!!!!!
UNSC 1172 says, resolve your issue trhough dialogues including Kashmir.

Secondly, you are not In Canada, it's Pakistan and your Neighbour is India with whom you have fought 4 times. Your double standards are noticed here!
 
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