Kamorta class corvettes for VPN ?

[Aepsilons]

That's exactly what I said recently and cheaper also.

I should not be overly-critical of our Filipino friends and partners, but sometimes, i cannot help but question the 'thinking' of their Military Command. Anyways, I want the best for Manila, its security is important to us. Both Vietnam and Philippines' security is important to Japan.

 

[Carlosa]

There should be healthy increase otherwise what happens na that we end up ordering more hardware and we have lesser trained manpower or backup for the same. I have come across same in Indian defence forces recently but can't share.

Yes and all these new fancy systems cost quite a bit to maintain and take some time to absorb and master.

 

[Carlosa]

I should not be overly-critical of our Filipino friends and partners, but sometimes, i cannot help but question the 'thinking' of their Military Command. Anyways, I want the best for Manila, its security is important to us. Both Vietnam and Philippines' security is important to Japan.

We all want the best for Manila, its good to be critical, that can help, but in the end, the Filipinos need to wake up and make the right decisions, nobody can do it for them.

 

[Carlosa]

Self deleted, I posted in the wrong thread.

 

[William Hung]

I post from LUMIA device as this site is blocked my ISP. I can provide the site name and heading, but rest of the things you will have to dig up.

My friend, can you tell us the site name? or is PDF censoring it?

 

[Carlosa]

I should not be overly-critical of our Filipino friends and partners, but sometimes, i cannot help but question the 'thinking' of their Military Command. Anyways, I want the best for Manila, its security is important to us. Both Vietnam and Philippines' security is important to Japan.

Philippines is actually moving in the right direction and they are buying a wide variety of stuff, but a few bad decisions which also happen to be about the most important hardware that they need to get, really ruins the day man. Its actually amazing that they let it happen.

 

[RISING SUN]

Well, I can tell you that from our end here we had zero info about this type of ship, we only knew about 4 offshore patrol vessels that are supposed to be cheap and the rumors about the Kamorta, that's all.

Whatever more info you can trow at us or links will be very much appreciated. Thank you man.

Please do not get your hopes too high. We intend to provide the best we have but what VN orders that also matters. If they order lesser one then it will be somewhere forth generation enlarges patrol vessel(only in the name as IN designated patrol vessels are equal to other countries biggest frigates). That is the lesser one which can be ordered.

 

[Carlosa]

Please do not get your hopes too high. We intend to provide the best we have but what VN orders that also matters. If they order lesser one then it will be somewhere forth generation enlarges patrol vessel(only in the name as IN designated patrol vessels are equal to other countries biggest frigates). That is the lesser one which can be ordered.

Yes, I understans, that's also my worry.

So basically, this is just what India proposed to VN, but nothing is confirmed yet, correct?
Do you know the number of ships involved?

 

[RISING SUN]

Can you confirm that VN has already decided to go with this hybrid design or is it just a possibility?

3500 - 4500 sounds great, a heavy frigate.

In Indian terminology it is still called patrol vessel. And yes final order is still not freezed but it is confirmed that it will have mixture of tech borrowed from our best available tech in GSL. If GOI comes into the plat, then sky is limit, we can even put a 1000 km long range missile in this boat too if it comes to that. But yes realistically speaking we can only provide what VN wants afterall. They will be the end user. But I can say that yes it will be stealth(not the level of Kamorta) with Sukanya capabilities. Why not Kamorta, only because VN is looking for something else and IN orderbook is full for now. If VN can ask for local boat building then it will be golden chance for her and India too.

 

[Nova2]

Can you point us to any links or pics of this ship?

We've never heard about it before.

ASW corvette INS Kamorta to be handed over to Navy tomorrow.

Kamorta-class corvette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

for Pics.
Tarmak007 -- A bold blog on Indian defence: Made in India ASW corvette Kamorta ready for action

 

[Carlosa]

In Indian terminology it is still called patrol vessel. And yes final order is still not freezed but it is confirmed that it will have mixture of tech borrowed from our best available tech in GSL. If GOI comes into the plat, then sky is limit, we can even put a 1000 km long range missile in this boat too if it comes to that. But yes realistically speaking we can only provide what VN wants afterall. They will be the end user. But I can say that yes it will be stealth(not the level of Kamorta) with Sukanya capabilities. Why not Kamorta, only because VN is looking for something else and IN orderbook is full for now. If VN can ask for local boat building then it will be golden chance for her and India too.

You made my day, thank you and please don't be shy to share more with us when you get more info.

Is it 6 ships?

 

[RISING SUN]

Yes, I understans, that's also my worry.

So basically, this is just what India proposed to VN, but nothing is confirmed yet, correct?
Do you know the number of ships involved?

India has given the alternative options and VN can come with its own final requirement but base hull will be same for first four and second batch boats. Four boats in first order. Second order should come around 2020 I believe as there is minimum two years gap between two stage boats.

 

[sree45]

I don't think it is possible to sell 6 Kamorta class ships... Shipyards already have their hands full and i don't know how much capacity we would be able to add in the immediate future.

 

[Carlosa]

I should not be overly-critical of our Filipino friends and partners, but sometimes, i cannot help but question the 'thinking' of their Military Command. Anyways, I want the best for Manila, its security is important to us. Both Vietnam and Philippines' security is important to Japan.

I hate to say it, but in an alliance, all that Philippines can do is to provide bases for others to use. They wasted too much time, I don't quite understand how they could be so blind for so long considering the threat that they are facing.

 

[RISING SUN]

You made my day, thank you and please don't be shy to share more with us when you get more info.

Is it 6 ships?

No first one is four boat. Second stage will be bigger in number as VN will be adopting Indian strategy in inducting the boats over a period of time. So we can think it should be around 8 ships of same class with batch upgradation. And believe me GSL is by far most competent shipbuilder(naval forces) in India.