Kamorta class corvettes for VPN ?

[William Hung]

How much is the price of the Kamorta Class ?

GRSE is currently bidding for the Filipino tender. $420million for 2 ships. Plus another $57million for armament.

 

[Carlosa]

These will not be Kamorta class vessels, rather boats offered are based on Sukanya class which can even fire ballistic missiles leave aside antiship missiles. So no worryies on that part. What India has offered to Vietnam is far much more formiddable than what China has supplied to its friendly countries. Who else will sell stealth design with IR suppressor while carrying VLS missile deck. Items on offer are anti missile system, Radar, anti ship missile, above 100 km range tarpedo(this is what earlier I had given hint in earlier post), main gun super effective against anti ship cruise missiles, helicoper integrated with ship, land attack capability, anti submarine warfare capability. Anti ship missiles will be limited in numbers to save space, 8 at max. But tarpedo will be the most deadly weapon against ships. All integrated in secure networked ship management system.

Wow, you brought up a whole new thing here, we were talking about Kamorta ships, but this is a whole different game. I just checked about that Dhanush missile, that sounds mighty good and a 100 Km torpedo also.

Let me ask you, obviously you have accesses to information that is not out in the open, how solid is this information? Did VN already agree to order those ships? Is it actually 6 ships?

 

[Carlosa]

This kind of boat is housing freaking balliatic missiles on board, then there is no way that it can't house and fire anti ship missiles. So that is not a worry.

That ballistic Dhanush missile is probably quite unstoppable at the typical speed of a ballistic missile.

 

[SrNair]

How much is the price of the Kamorta Class ?

Cost would reduce after export production.

INS Kamorta (3).JPG
INS "Kamorta" during sea trials before commissioning
Class overview
Name:Kamorta class corvette
Builders:GRSE

Operators: Indian Navy

Preceded by:"Kora"-class
corvette
by Precedence
"Abhay"-class
corvette
by Role.
Cost:INR
28 billion (US$454 million)-INR
70 billion(US$1 billion)[1]

Built:2005–
Building:3
Planned:4 + 8 (Project 28A)
Active:1
General characteristics
Class & typeroject 28
Type:ASW
Corvette

Displacement:
*Standard:* 2800 tonnes*Full load:* 3400 tonnes[2]

Length:109.1 m (358 ft)
Beam:13.7 m (45 ft)
Propulsion:4 x Pielstick 12 PA6 STC Diesel engines
CODAD
, DCNS
raft mounted gearbox
Speed:25 kn (46 km/h; 29 mph) [2]

Range:3,500 nmi (6,500 km; 4,000 mi) at 18 kn (33 km/h; 21 mph)
Complement:180 sailors and 15 Officers
Sensors and
processing systems:
Revati Central Acquisition Radar

EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar
BEL Shikari
BEL RAWL02 (Signaal LW08) antenna communication grid – Gigabit Ethernet-based integrated ship borne data network, with a fibre optic cable backbone running through the vessel
Bow Mounted Sonar
Bomber Electronic warfare (EW) suites – BEL Sanket Mk III
Electronic warfare
& decoys DESEAVER MK
Armament:
1 x 76.2 mm Oto SRGM

2 x AK-630M
CIWS

2 x RBU-6000
(IRL) anti-submarine rocket launcher
2 x 8 Barak SAM
(Built For but not with
) [3]

2 x 3 Torpedo tubes

Aircraft carried:1 Westland Sea King
Mk.42B

*"Kamorta" class corvettes
* are the Indian Navy
's next-generation anti submarine warfare
platform, built under Project 28. They are being built at Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers
(GRSE), Kolkata
. All the four corvettes are planned to be handed over to the Indian Navy by the year 2017.[4]

"Project 28" is the primary project for driving localisation and developing the warship construction industry in India.[1]
The aim with this project is to stipulate unprecedented standards while providing opportunities to Indian vendors to develop expertise with the technology. The project, driven by the Navy's Directorate of Indigenisation, has been delayed by two years with a cost overrun from the originally estimated INR
28 billion (US$454 million) to INR
70 billion (US$1 billion), primarily to meet this goal.
The order for the first four corvettes was placed in 2003, with construction commencing on 12 August 2005.

 

[Carlosa]

What kind of details are you looking for?

I was wondering about what changes, improvements the P-28A will have.

 

[Carlosa]

It is niether Kamorta class corvette nor Sukanya class patrol boat. Rather it is enlarged boat with hybrid capabilities of both classes. Thank you.

Any idea what the size, displacement is?

Is this a new design for the Indian Navy or just for export?

 

[Aepsilons]

INS Kamorta (3).JPG
INS "Kamorta" during sea trials before commissioning
Class overview
Name:Kamorta class corvette
Builders:GRSE

Operators: Indian Navy

Preceded by:"Kora"-class
corvette
by Precedence
"Abhay"-class
corvette
by Role.
Cost:INR
28 billion (US$454 million)-INR
70 billion(US$1 billion)[1]

Built:2005–
Building:3
Planned:4 + 8 (Project 28A)
Active:1
General characteristics
Class & typeroject 28
Type:ASW
Corvette

Displacement:
*Standard:* 2800 tonnes*Full load:* 3400 tonnes[2]

Length:109.1 m (358 ft)
Beam:13.7 m (45 ft)
Propulsion:4 x Pielstick 12 PA6 STC Diesel engines
CODAD
, DCNS
raft mounted gearbox
Speed:25 kn (46 km/h; 29 mph) [2]

Range:3,500 nmi (6,500 km; 4,000 mi) at 18 kn (33 km/h; 21 mph)
Complement:180 sailors and 15 Officers
Sensors and
processing systems:
Revati Central Acquisition Radar

EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar
BEL Shikari
BEL RAWL02 (Signaal LW08) antenna communication grid – Gigabit Ethernet-based integrated ship borne data network, with a fibre optic cable backbone running through the vessel
Bow Mounted Sonar
Bomber Electronic warfare (EW) suites – BEL Sanket Mk III
Electronic warfare
& decoysESEAVER MK
Armament:
1 x 76.2 mm Oto SRGM

2 x AK-630M
CIWS

2 x RBU-6000
(IRL) anti-submarine rocket launcher
2 x 8 Barak SAM
(Built For but not with
) [3]

2 x 3 Torpedo tubes

Aircraft carried:1 Westland Sea King
Mk.42B

*"Kamorta" class corvettes
* are the Indian Navy
's next-generation anti submarine warfare
platform, built under Project 28. They are being built at Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers
(GRSE), Kolkata
. All the four corvettes are planned to be handed over to the Indian Navy by the year 2017.[4]

"Project 28" is the primary project for driving localisation and developing the warship construction industry in India.[1]
The aim with this project is to stipulate unprecedented standards while providing opportunities to Indian vendors to develop expertise with the technology. The project, driven by the Navy's Directorate of Indigenisation, has been delayed by two years with a cost overrun from the originally estimated INR
28 billion (US$454 million) to INR
70 billion (US$1 billion), primarily to meet this goal.
The order for the first four corvettes was placed in 2003, with construction commencing on 12 August 2005.

Thanks !

 

[RISING SUN]

Wow, you brought up a whole new thing here, we were talking about Kamorta ships, but this is a whole different game. I just checked about that Dhanush missile, that sounds mighty good and a 100 Km torpedo also.

Let me ask you, obviously you have accesses to information that is not out in the open, how solid is this information? Did VN already agree to order those ships? Is it actually 6 ships?

VN ship will not have ballistic missile as it doesn't have that much tracking and guidance system in place at the time. But that will free space for other weapons whose number can be increased significantly.

 

[Carlosa]

Vietnam doesn't have the luxury of strategic depth for such heavy class boat when enemy is so close. What it needs is multi role frigates anti access patrol boats with SSKs. Plus land based dedicated anti shipping jets. Thank you.

I totally agree with you, vessels up to frigate size is enough and anyway, VN still needs to complete the ecosystem that goes along with all these ships like AWACS, surveillance satellites and stand off targeting, etc.

 

[Carlosa]

How much is the price of the Kamorta Class ?

Over 400 million.

 

[Aepsilons]

GRSE is currently bidding for the Filipino tender. $420million for 2 ships. Plus another $57million for armament.

I wonder if the IN has sent this ship's class into hostile waters in say the Somali Coast to 'test out' its offensive capabilities.

Thanks for the information, btw, Banderanegro.

 

[RISING SUN]

Wow, you brought up a whole new thing here, we were talking about Kamorta ships, but this is a whole different game. I just checked about that Dhanush missile, that sounds mighty good and a 100 Km torpedo also.

Let me ask you, obviously you have accesses to information that is not out in the open, how solid is this information? Did VN already agree to order those ships? Is it actually 6 ships?

It is already in public only less published. You may have thought many things but not all will be ordered by VN.

 

[Aepsilons]

Over 400 million.

What's more effective the Sigma Class or the Kamorta Class ? Your view ?

 

[Carlosa]

What's more effective the Sigma Class or the Kamorta Class ? Your view ?

The Kamorta is just asw with good air defense (very good one), it does not have anti ship missiles, but if you put them there, then definitely the Kamorta.

 

[RISING SUN]

That ballistic Dhanush missile is probably quite unstoppable at the typical speed of a ballistic missile.

It is not actually a ballistic missile but a quasi ballistic one with depressed trajectory. Is much faster than Brahmos and slower than typical ballistic missile. It has active seeker also.