Kamorta class corvettes for VPN ?

[Carlosa]

Those Tarantuls may be 'old' but they are ferociously effective. I do remember reading about NATO war games wherein Mistrael Class Frigates were 'taken' out by Tarantuls of the Russian Navy / Soviet Navy. The Tarantuls have the competitive edge in being fast attack craft that can be leveraged on Jiangzhu Class frigates of the PLAN, btw, which make up most of PLAN's South Sea Fleet. Retiring the Tarantuls would be a bad strategic decision.

The thing about the Tarantuls is that they are difficult to detect until it is too late and you have their missiles coming, but they are old and those missiles are bulky and easy to intercept.

 

[Carlosa]

could you provide more info on this??I thought all Russian warships use RBU-6000.

Not any more, the new Russian ships like the Admiral Gorshkov now use Paket-E, just google that ship.

 

[acetophenol]

Dude,

No country could legally supply you with a missile more than 300 Km in range and 500 Kg in Payload. You have to design them in-house.

If you are reffering to the MTCR ,no ones barring the non signatories from exporting missiles above 300km range.

 

[Carlosa]

could you provide more info on this??I thought all Russian warships use RBU-6000.

PAKET-E/NK SMALL-SIZE ANTITORPEDO SYSTEM

The system is intended to destroy torpedoes attacking a surface ship. The Paket-E/NK system includes a specialized sonar for target designation in an antitorpedo protection zone, an automated control system, an antitorpedo, a launch canister and a launcher.

The sonar is intended to automatically detect and identify torpedoes attacking a surface
ship, to determine their parameters of movement, to generate initial target designation data and to transmit them to the control system.

The control system is designed to generate target designation data, to carry out prelaunch preparation, to automatically fire an antitorpedo, to check the system for condition and to display and register the obtained information. The control system comprises a target designation subsystem, switching and control devices and a power supply subsystem.

The antitorpedo is designed to destroy attacking torpedoes. The canister is intended for transportation, prolonged storage, operation on the ship and launch of the antitorpedo.

The launcher is designed for placement, attachment and locking in position of the canister with the antitorpedo. It can be fixed or rotatable with one, two, four or eight modules. The Paket system increases the ship's survivability (improbability of hit by a torpedo) by 3 to 3.5 times. The caliber of the antitorpedo is 324 mm, and its weight is 380 kg.

 

[kaku1]

That sounds mighty good !!! The PLAN will not be happy.

Dont know, but in future, Vietnam can join IRNSS program, and ask India for launch two more sat for increasing the IRNSS range to Vietnam, and provide military level precision in SCS.

 

[Carlosa]

Dont know, but in future, Vietnam can join IRNSS program, and ask India for launch two more sat for increasing the IRNSS range to Vietnam, and provide military level precision in SCS.

That would be great and actually, India might want to do it itself since its planning to operate in SCS and also considering that India is going to set up a satellite tracking station in Vietnam, this might already be in the planning.

 

[Carlosa]

I should not be overly-critical of our Filipino friends and partners, but sometimes, i cannot help but question the 'thinking' of their Military Command. Anyways, I want the best for Manila, its security is important to us. Both Vietnam and Philippines' security is important to Japan.

I was just reading in the Filipino thread that their defense budget is only 2 billion, that's a quarter of Vietnam's budget and they have a much bigger economy, unbelievable !!

 

[Aepsilons]

I was just reading in the Filipino thread that their defense budget is only 2 billion, that's a quarter of Vietnam's budget and they have a much bigger economy, unbelievable !!

The Philippines should increase their defense budget to at least $4 Billion. It cannot afford to keep its military ill-equipped any longer.

 

[kaku1]

I was just reading in the Filipino thread that their defense budget is only 2 billion, that's a quarter of Vietnam's budget and they have a much bigger economy, unbelievable !!

The Philippines security is much more handled by US, they dont need to spend billions on that. And on other case, indeed Indian shipyard GRSE participating in PN's frigate tender, but it most unlikely that the contract is provided to GRSE.

 

[Aepsilons]

The Philippines security is much more handled by US, they dont need to spend billions on that. And on other case, indeed Indian shipyard GRSE participating in PN's frigate tender, but it most unlikely that the contract is provided to GRSE.

The Filipinos will more than likely choose the Incheon Class Frigate. It is fiscally within their range, and given that they've already purchased 12 of Korea's FA-50 Tigers for their Air Force's Primary Fighter, it seems only congruent for them to go 'Korean'.

The Koreans also donated to the Philippine Navy 1 Pohang Class Corvette (fully armed).

 

[kaku1]

The Filipinos will more than likely choose the Incheon Class Frigate. It is fiscally within their range, and given that they've already purchased 12 of Korea's FA-50 Tigers for their Air Force's Primary Fighter, it seems only congruent for them to go 'Korean'.

The Koreans also donated to the Philippine Navy 1 Pohang Class Corvette (fully armed).

Indeed, but if you ask me. I dont like Incheon Class frigate very much. Definitely there is least european or Indian influence is there, but La Fayette is even much better choice against Incheon class.

 

[Aepsilons]

Indeed, but if you ask me. I dont like Incheon Class frigate very much. Definitely there is least european or Indian influence is there, but La Fayette is even much better choice against Incheon class.

The Philippine Navy should diversify its naval assets. They have already 2 Hamilton-Class Cutters , now they will have 1 Pohang Class Corvette, if they purchase 2 Incheon Class Corvettes, they should eventually consider other vessels with quality capabilities. Perhaps, in the future, the Philippines will consider the Kamorta Class Corvette.

 

[kaku1]

The Philippine Navy should diversify its naval assets. They have already 2 Hamilton-Class Cutters , now they will have 1 Pohang Class Corvette, if they purchase 2 Incheon Class Corvettes, they should eventually consider other vessels with quality capabilities. Perhaps, in the future, the Philippines will consider the Kamorta Class Corvette.

Kamotra class is out of question, its price tag is huge. Even I dont think there is any requirement of VLS based SAM and VLS anti-ship missile in Philliphines Navy, even Pakistan Navy cant buy and handle maintenance of such frigate. So Kamotra will be on the last in that list.

But at least they should start considering some european frigates.

 

[Aepsilons]

Kamotra class is out of question, its price tag is huge. Even I dont think there is any requirement of VLS based SAM and VLS anti-ship missile in Philliphines Navy, even Pakistan Navy cant buy and handle maintenance of such frigate. So Kamotra will be on the last in that list.

But at least they should start considering some european frigates.

Are there any more affordable ships in the Indian Navy that might be suitable for the Philippines?

Anything around $100 - $300 million ?

 

[kaku1]

Are there any more affordable ships in the Indian Navy that might be suitable for the Philippines?

Anything around $100 - $300 million ?

Um, OPV only.
Saryu-class patrol vessel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And also 75m OPV with 8 Kh-35 maybe, that provided to VN, maybe it cost arround $150 mil.