Kamorta class corvettes for VPN ?

[kaku1]

Bramhos will be overkill and will only increase issues for VN. Instead of going jingoistic we should be realistic. We can put all the hardware but from where are we going to put so many sensors. They also need space which is an issue in a patrol vessel even if big size one. There is a far more deadlier weapon but VN needs to put it in requirement.

I am more than realistic bro, PLAN is not a joke, if you want a A2/AD capability against PLAN, then one have to tight its belt.

 

[Carlosa]

With the Brahmos + Barak-8 +MF-Star, it will be better than any ship sailing in the SCS, except for the 052D.



The Phalanx and RAM are really underwhelming. Both are just CIWS and can't handle a saturated missile attack.

The Kamorta and the Spanish offering from Navantia will have options for VLS MR-SAM. But they ain't gona win.

The outcome is already fixed with the Koreans.

"Brahmos + Barak-8 +MF-Star" is surely a winner.

Sea Ram is actually very good, but its only point defense anyway.

 

[kaku1]

Not that cheap at $350 million.

$350 mil, really? I dont know about that? Thats a huge cost.

Maybe if hybrid Kamotra is decided, then it will cost around $400 mil to $425 mil.

 

[Carlosa]

$350 mil, really? I dont know about that? Thats a huge cost.

Maybe if hybrid Kamotra is decided, then it will cost around $400 mil to $425 mil.

Yes, that's the price, European stuff is expensive.

Exocet missiles are 5 million each, MICA missiles are 3 million each. Not worth it.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Not that cheap at $350 million.

For the exact amount of money you can easily buy a hybrid OPV/Kamorta class frigate along with all the goodies including Klub-S/Kh-35 AShM.Plus all the censors and the radar will definitely be of Israeli made.Then there'll be Barak-8 SAM. too.But if V.P.N. opts for the Brahmos package then it will cost you guys say another $50 miilion.Still it will be much better to get a hybrid Karmorta/OPV class frigate than the Sigma class for a mere $50 millions more

 

[kaku1]

Yes, that's the price, European stuff is expensive.

Exocet missiles are 5 million each, MICA missiles are 3 million each. Not worth it.

Lol, the Naval Version of BrahMos Block 3, also cost the same, $5 mil, and for India that is costly also. Thats why India developing Nirbhay, low cost and high range. Only cost at $1mil. In future BrahMos is going to be specified only for HVT and for secondary or long range targets Nirbhay will be used.

 

[Carlosa]

For the exact amount of money you can easily buy a hybrid OPV/Kamorta class frigate along with all the goodies including Klub-S/Kh-35 AShM.Plus all the censors and the radar will definitely be of Israeli made.Then there'll be Barak-8 SAM. too.But if V.P.N. opts for the Brahmos package then it will cost you guys say another $50 miilion.Still it will be much better to get a hybrid Karmorta/OPV class frigate than the Sigma class for a mere $50 millions more

I totally agree with you, the Sigmas are overpriced.

 

[Carlosa]

Lol, the Naval Version of BrahMos Block 3, also cost the same, $5 mil, and for India that is costly also. Thats why India developing Nirbhay, low cost and high range. Only cost at $1mil. In future BrahMos is going to be specified only for HVT and for secondary or long range targets Nirbhay will be used.

Its ok for Brahmos to be 5 million, but not for Exocet which is way inferior.

 

[Viet]

Sigma is good and cheap, but it doesnt provide like die hard weapon package.

no, the sigma carries weapons worth more than the gepard.

 

[William Hung]

$350 mil, really? I dont know about that? Thats a huge cost.

Maybe if hybrid Kamotra is decided, then it will cost around $400 mil to $425 mil.

For the exact amount of money you can easily buy a hybrid OPV/Kamorta class frigate along with all the goodies including Klub-S/Kh-35 AShM.Plus all the censors and the radar will definitely be of Israeli made.Then there'll be Barak-8 SAM. too.But if V.P.N. opts for the Brahmos package then it will cost you guys say another $50 miilion.Still it will be much better to get a hybrid Karmorta/OPV class frigate than the Sigma class for a mere $50 millions more

Do you guys have any pics of this Kamorta/OPV hybrid? I've never heard of them before.

Or are you guys talking about that stretched out (105m version) GSL 75m OPV thats based on the Saryu?

 

[Aepsilons]

With the Brahmos + Barak-8 +MF-Star, it will be better than any ship sailing in the SCS, except for the 052D.



The Phalanx and RAM are really underwhelming. Both are just CIWS and can't handle a saturated missile attack.

The Kamorta and the Spanish offering from Navantia will have options for VLS MR-SAM. But they ain't gona win.

Phalanx + RAM are effective deterents, especially if deploying a squadron of these together. For the Philippines, given their limited fiscal defense spending, the Incheon Class is more of a realistic choice. It will give them some kind of defense protection, at least.

 

[kaku1]

Do you guys have any pics of this Kamorta/OPV hybrid? I've never heard of them before.

Or are you guys talking about that stretched out (105m version) GSL 75m OPV thats based on the Saryu?

Bro, nope. Because IN never wanted a frigate based on Kamotra structure, it going with P-17A project, and future deployment of BrahMos-2 and Barak-8 ER, which is going to be the range of 120 Km.

The hybrid model will only designed, if the VN want that. The 2 RBU-6000 will be removed and 8 cell VLS can be added in that space.

 

[Aepsilons]

no, the sigma carries weapons worth more than the gepard.

Any updates if its true that the VPN is really planning to retire the Tarantul Class after the Molniya are completely ready en force ?

Those Tarantuls should be an excellent advance guard to any Flotilla composing of the Sigma and Gepard Class warships.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Do you guys have any pics of this Kamorta/OPV hybrid? I've never heard of them before.

Or are you guys talking about that stretched out (105m version) GSL 75m OPV thats based on the Saryu?

Right now i can't find any picture of this hybrid in the internet.But one thing is clear the frigate that'll be offered to V.P.N. will definitely be a Kamorta/OPV hybrid and it'll be significantly larger than the 105 m OPV model developed by GRSE having a far more deadlier weapons package and a world class electronic suite and an AESA radar most probably of Israeli origin.I heard this from an ex Indian Navy officer in another Indian forum.

 

[Viet]

Bramhos will be overkill and will only increase issues for VN. Instead of going jingoistic we should be realistic. We can put all the hardware but from where are we going to put so many sensors. They also need space which is an issue in a patrol vessel even if big size one. There is a far more deadlier weapon but VN needs to put it in requirement.

no, not overkill. we still lack of advanced supersonic antiship missiles to arm the SU-30 such as brahmos or yakhont.