Jordan to export Uranium

[My-Analogous]

Nope. Its not any news for you at all - good or bad.

Jordan under international treaty cannot sell Uranium to any country not covered by NPT or exempted by NSG(your favourite neighbour).

Just for your information Pakistan have more then 80,000 ton of uranium deposits and we export few years before and stop exporting since 2005. So we have enough deposit for our bombs and if we used one ton /bomb then we can have 80,000 + atom bomb. We are importing uranium for our civilian peaceful program.

 

[Judge]

Just for your information Pakistan have more then 80,000 ton of uranium deposits and we export few years before and stop exporting since 2005. So we have enough deposit for our bombs and if we used one ton /bomb then we can have 80,000 + atom bomb. We are importing uranium for our civilian peaceful program.

Just for your information friend - Importing for any purpose - whether peaceful energy or a nuclear bomb is disallowed to any non-NPT signatory states.
This is applicable to every nation that has signed NPT.

 

[My-Analogous]

Just for your information friend - Importing for any purpose - whether peaceful energy or a nuclear bomb is disallowed to any non-NPT signatory states.
This is applicable to every nation that has signed NPT.

There is one term which is used in civilian nuclear deal, its called under IAEA safeguards and once you have that then you can import anything from anywhere and IAEA have full right to check these plants any day and any time to make sure that these uranium will not being used for weapons

 

[Bilal.]

Just for your information friend - Importing for any purpose - whether peaceful energy or a nuclear bomb is disallowed to any non-NPT signatory states.
This is applicable to every nation that has signed NPT.

Oh is it? Then where are we getting the fuel for the 2 operational chashma reactors and for the 2 that will online in next couple of years and for the 2 1 GW each reactors that China will build in Karachi?

 

[Judge]

Oh is it? Then where are we getting the fuel for the 2 operational chashma reactors and for the 2 that will online in next couple of years and for the 2 1 GW each reactors that China will build in Karachi?

Because it comes under grandfather clause that Russia and China use.

No other country may supply you.

 

[Bilal.]

Because it comes under grandfather clause that Russia and China use.

No other country may supply you.

Bingo, so by this way or that, we will get the required uranium fuel.

 

[Daneshmand]

Yes it will be, that's why it turned to Russia to build the two nuclear reactors after American refusal to let Jordan produce enriched uranium on it's own despite the extensive guarantees that's for peaceful purposes. However, a country like Jordan will never think of producing nuclear weapon.

Not at all. Jordan will never have any uranium enrichment program. Even if Russia does build a mere two reactors in Jordan, still Jordan will not be permitted to have uranium enrichment program and will have to remain dependent on Russia for enriched fuel, at exorbitant prices, I might add.

And the Un-enriched uranium is actually a very cheap commodity. It goes at about 100 dollars a kilogram on international markets, usually even much less than this price for long term contracts. At this price the total value of Jordanian reserves would come to 6.5 billion dollars. The profits from mining is actually going to be much less, since setting up a mine needs a huge investment and then requires substantial running costs, thereafter specially if the country does not have its own mining technology and investment capability and depends on foreign countries for such a project. Jordan would be lucky if it could make even a couple of billion dollars from these reserves.

Nuclear technology is only feasible when the country in question can enrich and fabricate its own fuel. Jordan is not that country.

 

[Daneshmand]

Bingo, so by this way or that, we will get the required uranium fuel.

Technically he is right. Countries that are not part of NPT can not import it, except India and Israel, which leaves only Pakistan and North Korea out. But Pakistan uses a legal loophole to import from China since Pakistan's reserves have all been used and Pakistan does not have any usable reserves anymore. North Korea on the other hand has a special relationship with China and uses that in a secret way to get what it wants. There is also Iran which though technically part of NPT, it has not had any access to imports, despite the fact that Iran owns the world's second largest mine in Namibia. But no worries. U is cheap. And it can even be obtained from ocean water at just under 3 times the price from terrestrial mines. Which is again cheap.

 

[farhan_9909]

Good,we can now bypass Uzbekistan and Australia to import uranium from Jordan

 

[Daneshmand]

Good,we can now bypass Uzbekistan and Australia to import uranium from Jordan

No you can't. There is something called NSG agreement that prohibits this. But you do not even need to. Just obtain it from waters off Karachi at an acceptable raised cost. There is enough of it in ocean waters that can supply Pakistan's need for tens of millions of years.

 

[farhan_9909]

No you can't. There is something called NSG agreement that prohibits this. But you do not even need to. Just obtain it from waters off Karachi at an acceptable raised cost. There is enough of it in ocean waters that can supply Pakistan's need for tens of millions of years.

Pakistan still doesn't import uranium but had plan to do so from Australia/Uzbekistan as many reactors are set to become operational.

 

[ni8mare]

BLACKEAGLE we are coming......

 

[Bilal.]

Technically he is right. Countries that are not part of NPT can not import it, except India and Israel, which leaves only Pakistan and North Korea out. But Pakistan uses a legal loophole to import from China since Pakistan's reserves have all been used and Pakistan does not have any usable reserves anymore. North Korea on the other hand has a special relationship with China and uses that in a secret way to get what it wants. There is also Iran which though technically part of NPT, it has not had any access to imports, despite the fact that Iran owns the world's second largest mine in Namibia. But no worries. U is cheap. And it can even be obtained from ocean water at just under 3 times the price from terrestrial mines. Which is again cheap.

We are getting all our civil requirement from China and local resurces are enough for Khushab. So basically, the bar on uranium import does not matter to us and is simply ineffective. As we speak, 2 340 MW reactors are being constructed and as soon as sindh high court is satisfied work on 2 1100 MW reactors will start in Karachi. Additionally, we have 2 operational military reactors with work on 2 more nearing completion. So as I said, the restriction is as good as non existent.

 

[Daneshmand]

Pakistan still doesn't import uranium but had plan to do so from Australia/Uzbekistan as many reactors are set to become operational.

Yes, that is possible if Pakistan can muster enough diplomatic pressure to use India as a precedent and get a deal like India.

We are getting all our civil requirement from China and local resurces are enough for Khushab. So basically, the bar on uranium import does not matter to us and is simply ineffective. As we speak, 2 340 MW reactors are being constructed and as soon as sindh high court is satisfied work on 2 1100 MW reactors will start in Karachi. Additionally, we have 2 operational military reactors with work on 2 more nearing completion. So as I said, the restriction is as good as non existent.

Good for you.

 

[Nilesh Singh]

Pakistan still doesn't import uranium but had plan to do so from Australia/Uzbekistan as many reactors are set to become operational.

Sir, until you get waiver just like India you will not be allowed to import any nuclear material. You are going to get only 2 new reactor from china as deal was signed before your nuclear test and hence China has find the loophole in draft that it need to deliver under any circumstance same way India got from Russia. But China will not able to deliver reactor after 2 already contracted as it will violate NPT order. You Need waiver like India to build more plant.