JF-17 trumps the Viper in certain domains

[Taimoor Khan]

1- Superior BVR armament.
2- Long range standoff capability both at sea and land.
3- Highly customized.

 

[Trango Towers]

Well said. The JF-17 is great now and a re-engine can make it excellent if it is deemed necessary at some point in the future. There is still a lot of development to come for this platform, and as you said, its biggest advantage will remain that it is a domestic joint product.

I don't get why people keep saying it's engine isn't good. Its the same engine on the mug 29. Explain what's wrong with the engine please

 

[VCheng]

I don't get why people keep saying it's engine isn't good. Its the same engine on the mug 29. Explain what's wrong with the engine please

There is nothing wrong with the present engine. It is suited very well for its purpose.

 

[Trango Towers]

There is nothing wrong with the present engine. It is suited very well for its purpose.

So why is everyone going on about replacing the engine?

 

[VCheng]

So why is everyone going on about replacing the engine?

An engine that gives a better than the current T:W ratio of 1:1.1 to better than unity would help performance in certain areas, that is all. It may not even be needed, to be honest.

 

[Trango Towers]

An engine that gives a better than the current T:W ratio of 1:1.1 to better than unity would help performance in certain areas, that is all. It may not even be needed, to be honest.

1:1.1 is more than sufficient. What would you like it to be and why.

 

[VCheng]

1:1.1 is more than sufficient. What would you like it to be and why.

I agree, 1:1.1 is sufficient.

 

[Trango Towers]

I agree, 1:1.1 is sufficient.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust-to-weight_ratio

Scroll down and see the other modern combat aircraft and their T/W Ratio.
This talk is just bull

 

[VCheng]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrust-to-weight_ratio

Scroll down and see the other modern combat aircraft and their T/W Ratio.
This talk is just bull

The T:W ratio is only one measure of performance. It is the entire package that matters, and the JF-17 must be seen with that in mind.

 

[Dotachin]

have to understand that PAF having experience on both platforms can speak based upon ground reality. This can be denied once someone with such reputation proves it wrong but as we see no debunk, speaks volume of what ACM said.

But it should be taken into account that PAF is not only an operator but also a seller of JF-17. And vendors always paint a rosy picture of their product. Since the said person fell short of providing any data to his assertion, makes it more of a marketing ploy by CEO of a company(surprisingly, he actually is of PAC).

 

[Raider 21]

Maybe because their OC just prefersw to be a desk jockey where as PAF leaders believe in leading from the front.

Yeah that used to be the case...turns out they're flying a lot these days. Coming back to the point I was making, both A and E models exhibit the same flying characteristics in their respective display profiles.

 

[Windjammer]

But it should be taken into account that PAF is not only an operator but also a seller of JF-17. And vendors always paint a rosy picture of their product. Since the said person fell short of providing any data to his assertion, makes it more of a marketing ploy by CEO of a company(surprisingly, he actually is of PAC).

Some weird logic there, the PAF Air chief is not exactly head of the marketing team and he wasn't exactly comparing it with a platform whose capabilities are unknown and certainly wouldn't be telling all to some journalists other then the experts in this field.

Yeah that used to be the case...turns out they're flying a lot these days. Coming back to the point I was making, both A and E models exhibit the same flying characteristics in their respective display profiles.

I thought the 'E' model has a much more powerful engine compared to the 'A'.

 

[Khafee]

I thought the 'E' model has a much more powerful engine compared to the 'A'.

Don't let facts, blow up myths, go with the flow.

 

[Trango Towers]

But it should be taken into account that PAF is not only an operator but also a seller of JF-17. And vendors always paint a rosy picture of their product. Since the said person fell short of providing any data to his assertion, makes it more of a marketing ploy by CEO of a company(surprisingly, he actually is of PAC).

This not pastry that you buy try and can't return as you have eaten a piece. The vendor may say crap but the buyer will always test the product before purchase

 

[The Eagle]

But it should be taken into account that PAF is not only an operator but also a seller of JF-17. And vendors always paint a rosy picture of their product. Since the said person fell short of providing any data to his assertion, makes it more of a marketing ploy by CEO of a company(surprisingly, he actually is of PAC).

To take into account, it is needed to be kept in view that JF-17 came later and PAF use to operate F-16 since long that actually validates that how and why ACM stated as such, knowing the facts and data. He is not the part of marketing team and no person of such level would ever shoot blank. There is a lot to pay attention for the one that knows value as such otherwise today or tomorrow, another operator that may operate thunder can prove it. Such professionals are not kind of attention seekers or need followers but when speaks, it becomes something on record.