looks like an F-16 (not jf-17).For the Night is Dark and full of Terrors.
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looks like an F-16 (not jf-17).For the Night is Dark and full of Terrors.
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turkey is building the second largest wind tunnel in europe for the development of TFX.
how many times will you post this
I am not aware of it.how many times will you post this
TFX will be finished before AzmLet them build it first . Tfx is 20 years away. Azam will most likely show up before that
Turks are like brothers . But without engine you will end up in another atak scenario
Turks are building their first jet they will take decades to get anything meaningful out
This pro American posturing will end in November after retirement package is secured
TFX will be finished before Azm
azm diedLet them build it first . Tfx is 20 years away. Azam will most likely show up before that
Turks are like brothers . But without engine you will end up in another atak scenario
Turks are building their first jet they will take decades to get anything meaningful out
This pro American posturing will end in November after retirement package is secured
3 decades of experience doing what lolSo far both are on drawing board and one is building their first and the other one is already 3 decades experienced
azm died
3 decades of experience doing what lol
The Turks are far ahead of us don't kid yourself. They have a clear outline and timeline for the aircraft with much more determination. They've also got experience with partially manufacturing F-16s and will get foreign support. They are currently working on an advanced detla-canard UCAV which the prototype is already complete, as well as other high quality drones.So far both are on drawing board and one is building their first and the other one is already 3 decades experienced
The Turks are far ahead of us don't kid yourself. They have a clear outline and timeline for the aircraft with much more determination. They've also got experience with partially manufacturing F-16s and will get foreign support. They are currently working on an advanced detla-canard UCAV which the prototype is already complete, as well as other high quality drones.
Pakistan had a joint project with China carrying it on its back, and still struggling.
propellor aircraft are a very different ballgame to a fully-fledged fgfa.Building propeller than jet trainers than 4 and now 4.5 generation aircraft with Chinese help
Can you list which aircraft turkey has built and are operational?
And azm died according to whom????
Mergers and joint developments does not means it died
I am not against Turks and it's not a comparison as we are not in competition
But don't kid your self . Determination and time lines ??
Yes they may be ahead in some things and have great industry.
More European influenced as they are part of NATO
But what they are producing which comes near JFT ?
Hur jet is trainer light attack not jft categorypropellor aircraft are a very different ballgame to a fully-fledged fgfa.
u see this, "co produced", what it means is the Chinese have given us a license to manufacture their designs.
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We could not even design a HUD or an MFD and here we are going to gon ahead and design an entire fighter lol.
Azm hasnt even merged with anything or any joint development. The program is dead. The UAV is dead. AvRID is useless.
license producing and integrating is what PAC does and without additional work that will not even get our foot in the door, however, we have not even done the additional work. Where is the investment comitted to azm? Where are the facilities being built? Where is the design? Where is any inkling of evidence it is continuing on or even getting anywhere? Hint, nowhere, whereas if we look to Turkey, we have tangible investment, facilities being built, cost forecasts, confirmed designs, everything we didnt do and dont have, turkey did and has, so im not sure in what dream world you think we are anywhere near
Hurjet will easily be on par or exceed the performance of the JF-17. Hence why rumours of turkish JF-17 involvement r funny too
JF-17 is mostly a Chinese aircraft we don't even have full control over itI am not against Turks and it's not a comparison as we are not in competition
But don't kid your self . Determination and time lines ??
Yes they may be ahead in some things and have great industry.
More European influenced as they are part of NATO
But what they are producing which comes near JFT ?
JF-17 is mostly a Chinese aircraft we don't even have full control over it
My money would go towards Turks before Pakistan from what I see, I wish I could say the opposite but everything in this country seems to be in absolute chaos with no signs of recovery or change