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JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

A Welcome addition in Pakistan Navy . Coastal security , securing shipping lines , avoiding human n narcotics smuggling are also important tasks plus according to CNS these will be equipped with indeginous missiles in Pakistan .
 
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We have our own battles. Our own shaheed our own heroes. We need to stop following

Can you imagine if Pakistani governments could name the ships?
PPP
PNS Benazir Bhutto Shaheed
PNS Zulfiqar Bhtto Shaheed
PNS Salman Taseer Shaheed
PNS Asma Jahangir Shaheed
PNS Bilawal
PNS Aseefa
PNS Roti
PNS Kapra
PNS Makan

PMLN
PNS Amir ul momineen
PNS Nawaz
PNS Maryam
PNS Shahbaz
PNS Kulsoom Shaheed
PNS Raiwind
PNS Lahore
PNS Sher
PNS Kyu Nikala

PTI
PNS Khan
PNS Bala
PNS chaka
PNS 92 World Cup
PNS U-Turn
PNS Imran
PNS Handsome
PNS Gabrana Mat
PNS Tabdeeli
PNS Insaaf
 
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Our Generals never thought outside the box and I blame the failure of our education institutions to be quite honest where innovative ideas are suppressed and if a Junior Officer can offer a better plan he's shot down. The readings I've done so far of Officers in that era is they acted more Western as they were the last few classes thought by the British and they kept that going with the flow. Gen Zia came and put a stop to it hence you saw the success of the Afghan-USSR War, not some stinger missiles that turned the tide as Americans often tout to their useless population and the world. Wife swapping was very common in that era -- and sadly it continues even till this day underground. You have Generals who have never heard of Carl Von Clausewitz -- the whole lot is useless to be quite honest.

From the advantage of Hindsight it is always easier to criticize what happened earlier. Afghan-USSR war, well the people who fought on ground and faced the wrath of Russian gunships in Afghan gorges tell a v different tale which vindicate American's stance about Stingers turning the tide of the war. Till 1984, progress against Soviets were v slow and Spitnez along with gunships were hunting "Mujahideen" (actually the foot soldiers of CIA's Op Cyclone) ... Had Zia that wise and strategic, he should have flown to Moscow somewhere between 85 and 88 to bargain with Russians about Indians over Kashmir (or at least in Siachen). What Soviets were about to lose at that time (which was evident to many in Moscow) they would have listened to Zia and on the otherhand, Washington had to offer Pakistan something more than F-16s to woo Pakistan in their camp (May be local production on license which would put PAC on a whole different level). But what happened, India took Zia's advantage and captured/snatched Siachen in 84 and he remained very comfortable with it. Zia failed in upping the ante at right time. We lost control over Nibra velley and Shyok river (a major tributary to Indus) along with 1000 SQ KM of land. What Zia did, removed the balance of power from the world and rest is history. Till Soviet empire was there, US remained hesitant to intervene.
 

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