JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[DJ_Viper]

Hi,

So---the missile is following the path of the HOT EXHAUST PARTICLES that were emitted in the smoke.

Damn---had not heard that definition of a missile launch and lock definition prior to this---.

Where did you see me saying that? The Heat Seeker (like the name explains) follows the path of the heat left behind the plane, which is the hot gas coming out of the engine's rear nozzle / after burner. That source of heat is the target. That's why the missile is called a "Heat Seeker". I am sure you know the meaning of the term!!

Next, in short range AIM type of an operation, the Carbon doesn't really change much. In BVR, where missiles are fired from long distances, the heat remains in the air longer as the hot Carbon particles exist and they emit heat for a bit longer than just the hot air. So, the lock remains steady.

I am having a hard time in really understanding the fact that you don't understand basic Chemistry behind burnt Carbon that's hot (whether in the example above or if you did a BBQ), and you had tried to insult me by telling me that Chemistry and Physics wasn't mandatory in America, meaning we are effing dumb. And here you are, arguing like a child, and not understanding the basic principles of Chemistry and spontaneous combustion with Carbon. What a freaking joke!!

Next time you come on here, try having a combination of C6H12O6+H2O. That would give you some energy to write cohesive posts. I actually know Physics and Chemistry a lot more than you can imagine. If you want to talk about Quantum Physics, let me know.

 

[MastanKhan]

Where did you see me saying that? The Heat Seeker (like the name explains) follows the path of the heat left behind the plane, which is the hot gas coming out of the engine's rear nozzle / after burner. That source of heat is the target. That's why the missile is called a "Heat Seeker". I am sure you know the meaning of the term!!

Next, in short range AIM type of an operation, the Carbon doesn't really change much. In BVR, where missiles are fired from long distances, the heat remains in the air longer as the hot Carbon particles exist and they emit heat for a bit longer than just the hot air. So, the lock remains steady.

I am having a hard time in really understanding you don't understand basic Chemistry behind burnt Carbon that's hot (whether in the example above or if you did a BBQ), and you had tried to insult me by telling me that Chemistry and Physics wasn't mandatory meaning we are effing dumb. And here you are, arguing like a child, and not understanding the basic principles of Chemistry and spontaneous combustion with Carbon. What a freaking joke!!

Hi,

Indeed you are correct my indian colleague---as I don't understand chemistry and your post---you don't need to address me anymore---.

Your explanation of heat seeker missile is interesting though.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Hi,

Indeed you are correct my indian colleague---as I don't understand chemistry and your post---you don't need to address me anymore---.

Your explanation of heat seeker missile is interesting though.

So this is how smart you guys are on this forum. I addressed some Indian member with your attitude and he told me I was a Pakistani. Today, a Pakistani calls me an Indian. That's hilarious!!

Americans have run the globe for almost 100 years since the WWII. The Americans invented and still produce top line products. And you guys think we don't have people who know science?? How funny.

Because in the 90's, we had a boom and we needed more people so we brought smart people from India, doesn't mean we aren't educated. That's a dumb thought to have. IPhone wasn't developed by an Indian guy, nor was the JSF an Indian design, nor was Tesla's self driving car an Indian scientists dream come true. I am sure there were some part of those teams, but the invention comes from the American minds. That's the reality like Mr. Obama said a few months ago about the American invention and the rest of the world.

Anyway, the feeling is mutual, I don't like to speak to disrespectful old people. Not sure if you realized, you are the second person I've dropped the "Sir" for, from my post. I call everyone with respect but some people don't appreciate it.

 

[Mentee]

So this is how smart you guys are on this forum. I addressed some Indian member with your attitude and he told me I was a Pakistani. Today, a Pakistani calls me an Indian. That's hilarious!!

Americans have run the globe for almost 100 years since the WWII. The Americans invented and still produce top line products. And you guys think we don't have people who know science?? How funny.

Because in the 90's, we had a boom and we needed more people so we brought smart people from India, doesn't mean we aren't educated. That's a dumb thought to have. IPhone wasn't developed by an Indian guy, nor was the JSF an Indian design, nor was Tesla's self driving car an Indian scientists dream come true. I am sure there were some part of those teams, but the invention comes from the American minds. That's the reality like Mr. Obama said a few months ago about the American invention and the rest of the world.

Anyway, the feeling is mutual, I don't like to speak to disrespectful old people. Not sure if you realized, you are the second person I've dropped the "Sir" for, from my post. I call everyone with respect but some people don't appreciate it.

I've yet to read an AMERICAN who brags about his country's achievements ! Mr Sharma you ain't no Yankee

 

[DJ_Viper]

I've yet to read an AMERICAN who brags about his country's achievements ! Mr Sharma you ain't no Yankee

?? Why is there always a name calling and racial profiling from both Indians and Pakistanis? Is it a cultural thing for you that when you don't get an answer your way, you call the other party Indian (or Pakistani, if this was an Indian guy I managed to piss off?)

By the way, its Watson, Not Sharma! I have a name my parents gave me. If you can extend some courtesy, you are welcome to call me Watson instead of butchering my entire family tree that eventually connects me to Sweden like 200 years ago!

And every American is proud of who we are and what our country has achieved. There is no other place where I'd rather be compared to the U.S.A.

 

[Dazzler]

?? Why is there always a name calling and racial profiling from both Indians and Pakistanis? Is it a cultural thing for you that when you don't get an answer your way, you call the other party Indian (or Pakistani, if this was an Indian guy I managed to piss off?)

By the way, its Watson, Not Sharma! I have a name my parents gave me. If you can extend some courtesy, you are welcome to call me Watson instead of butchering my entire family tree that eventually connects me to Sweden like 200 years ago!

And every American is proud of who we are and what our country has achieved. There is no other place where I'd rather be compared to the U.S.A.

Hmm, Watson Sharma, nice name.

Pray tell us your country of origin?

 

[DJ_Viper]

Hmm, Watson Sharma, nice name.

Pray tell us your country of origin?

If I had a "Sharma" in there.....I wouldn't have bashed India or Indians in my previous posts. I just realized you are not the person who was addressing me before. So now its even more hilarious seeing a think tank joining the conspiracy theory club. Keep it up brother, it sounds real mature

 

[Dazzler]

If I had a "Sharma" in there.....I wouldn't have bashed India or Indians in my previous posts. I just realized you are not the person who was addressing me before. So now its even more hilarious seeing a think tank joining the conspiracy theory club. Keep it up brother, it sounds real mature

you just broke my heart. Dont i have feelings?

 

[TaimiKhan]

Guys plz keep the discussion civilized and on topic. Discuss material / opinions on topic, don't derail it.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Regardless of how many years you lived in US Mr. Sharma, you still write "Indian" English

?? Why is there always a name calling and racial profiling from both Indians and Pakistanis? Is it a cultural thing for you that when you don't get an answer your way, you call the other party Indian (or Pakistani, if this was an Indian guy I managed to piss off?)

By the way, its Watson, Not Sharma! I have a name my parents gave me. If you can extend some courtesy, you are welcome to call me Watson instead of butchering my entire family tree that eventually connects me to Sweden like 200 years ago!

And every American is proud of who we are and what our country has achieved. There is no other place where I'd rather be compared to the U.S.A.

 

[SQ8]

Where did you see me saying that? The Heat Seeker (like the name explains) follows the path of the heat left behind the plane, which is the hot gas coming out of the engine's rear nozzle / after burner. That source of heat is the target. That's why the missile is called a "Heat Seeker". I am sure you know the meaning of the term!!

Next, in short range AIM type of an operation, the Carbon doesn't really change much. In BVR, where missiles are fired from long distances, the heat remains in the air longer as the hot Carbon particles exist and they emit heat for a bit longer than just the hot air. So, the lock remains steady.

I am having a hard time in really understanding the fact that you don't understand basic Chemistry behind burnt Carbon that's hot (whether in the example above or if you did a BBQ), and you had tried to insult me by telling me that Chemistry and Physics wasn't mandatory in America, meaning we are effing dumb. And here you are, arguing like a child, and not understanding the basic principles of Chemistry and spontaneous combustion with Carbon. What a freaking joke!!

Next time you come on here, try having a combination of C6H12O6+H2O. That would give you some energy to write cohesive posts. I actually know Physics and Chemistry a lot more than you can imagine. If you want to talk about Quantum Physics, let me know.

A aim-9e might see the heat of the exhaust.
A aim-9m sees the heat off the exhaust, residual heat and heat from air friction.
A python 5 sees the aircraft as a thermal image.

So your point is pretty obsolete in today's times.

 

[DJ_Viper]

A aim-9e might see the heat of the exhaust.
A aim-9m sees the heat off the exhaust, residual heat and heat from air friction.
A python 5 sees the aircraft as a thermal image.

So your point is pretty obsolete in today's times.

I can give you examples of 3 new technologies that can see a target in various ways that you've probably not heard about so far. But if you re-read the post above, we weren't talking about Thermal images. We were discussing the Heat Seeking missile and how they operate chasing after the Heat source. Thanks

 

[Basel]

I can give you examples of 3 new technologies that can see a target in various ways that you've probably not heard about so far. But if you re-read the post above, we weren't talking about Thermal images. We were discussing the Heat Seeking missile and how they operate chasing after the Heat source. Thanks

Please elaborate about this tech and enlighten us.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Regardless of how many years you lived in US Mr. Sharma, you still write "Indian" English

Ok, and a Pakistani with two flags of Pakistan would know. I forgot, the American English came from Pakistan. How cool is that?

When brains can't produce a logical answer, then this type of childish stuff comes out. How about you respond with logic to whatever post lit some fire in your rear? I'd imagine you have some maturity in you. Thanks

Please elaborate about this tech and enlighten us.

Sir, Not everything is meant for production on the great PDF. It was a message to the writer of the post that he was off topic and he is a senor guy I believe. Bringing Laser guided warheads into a discussion about heat seeking missiles makes no sense. I would agree that the former is too advance, but that wasn't the topic. Thanks.

 

[Khafee]

Where did you see me saying that? The Heat Seeker (like the name explains) follows the path of the heat left behind the plane, which is the hot gas coming out of the engine's rear nozzle / after burner. That source of heat is the target. That's why the missile is called a "Heat Seeker". I am sure you know the meaning of the term!!

Next, in short range AIM type of an operation, the Carbon doesn't really change much. In BVR, where missiles are fired from long distances, the heat remains in the air longer as the hot Carbon particles exist and they emit heat for a bit longer than just the hot air. So, the lock remains steady.

I am having a hard time in really understanding the fact that you don't understand basic Chemistry behind burnt Carbon that's hot (whether in the example above or if you did a BBQ), and you had tried to insult me by telling me that Chemistry and Physics wasn't mandatory in America, meaning we are effing dumb. And here you are, arguing like a child, and not understanding the basic principles of Chemistry and spontaneous combustion with Carbon. What a freaking joke!!

Next time you come on here, try having a combination of C6H12O6+H2O. That would give you some energy to write cohesive posts. I actually know Physics and Chemistry a lot more than you can imagine. If you want to talk about Quantum Physics, let me know.

@Oscar @Indus Falcon @TaimiKhan @MastanKhan WTH did I just read?

A aim-9e might see the heat of the exhaust.
A aim-9m sees the heat off the exhaust, residual heat and heat from air friction.
A python 5 sees the aircraft as a thermal image.

So your point is pretty obsolete in today's times.

@Oscar @TaimiKhan
Seems like Rip Van Winkle just woke up. A humble request, thread ban for this joker please, in the interest of everyone's sanity!

Hi,

So---the missile is following the path of the HOT EXHAUST PARTICLES that were emitted in the smoke.

Damn---had not heard that definition of a missile launch and lock definition prior to this---.

You better listen to Rip Van Winkle, or you are going back to high school Mister!

Nothing much but seems like whatever discussed already at PDF about JF-17 Block III, however few Key points in the read.

Just an article, published in Urdu media and not much reliable but guess work.

1. Mach 2.0+ engine is expected in Block-III with light weight material and generating less radar sign.

With DSI is Mach 2 possible?