JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[Thunder_Rider]

So.........
What about those Antennas ? Whats new with that ?

 

[Dazzler]

Improved RD-93 being tested, according to the person who shared these photos.

 

[Imran Khan]

Improved RD-93 being tested, according to the person who shared these photos.

so its Russia they improved it ?

 

[Dazzler]

same question but zip...coz i know this nation is low on tolerance and even any justified criticism take people no time to tag you with some fancy stuff ...

We have been hearing many things but they are true just for some winter dreams ...i second danger-zone until we cant see we cant believe ...enough of fooling we have done with ourselves in last 12 months or so ........

Just one thing....

pessimism will lead you nowhere.

so its Russia they improved it ?

China has imported them from Russia, IIRC, there was a news piece of improved RD-93 being acquired by China. Could be those.

 

[Dazzler]

Take-off Magazine : RD-33: output on the rise


According to UEC General Designer Alexander Ivakh speaking at the Engines 2012 salon in April, about 70 engines of the RD-33 family were made in Russia last year. Their production is run now by the Chernyshev Mashine-Building Enterprise in Moscow. Previously, the RD-33 Series 2 had been in production with the Baranov OMO enterprise in Omsk (at present, an affiliate of the Salut Gas Turbine Research and Production Centre), but the fact that customers order now RD-33 Series 3 and RD-33MK engines only has left Omsk-based plant with repairing and overhauling Baranov-made engines, while the production of new engines has moved to Moscow.

Chernyshev’s near-term production programme is determined by its current orderbook for the second batch of 29 MiG-29K/KUB carrierborne fighters to India (the first batch of 16 aircraft powered by Chernyshev-built RD-33MKs was delivered during 2009–2011) and the recent Russian Defence Ministry order for 24 fighters of the type. In addition, the plant supplied RD-33MK turbofans to fit the first two MiG-29M/M2 fighter prototypes.

The first MiG-29K/KUB jets are due to the Russian Navy’s air arm as soon as 2013, but the RD-33MK first has to pass its official bench tests for compliance with peculiar requirements of the Russian Armed Forces. Klimov JSC kicked off the tests on 28 January 2012.

An important position in Chernyshev’s production plans is also occupied by the deliveries of RD-33 Series 3 knockdown kits to India under the January 2007 contract on licence production of 120 engines of the type there. The programme is about half-complete.

Finally, the RD-93, a RD-33 derivative with the low-mounted accessory gearbox, is exported to China to fit FC-1 (JF-17) light single-engine fighters. The deal for 100 RD-93s with an option for 400 more was clinched in April 2005. The first 15 engines were assembled by Klimov, and Chernyshev has handled the rest of the deliveries since 2006. The contract is half-complete, and the deliveries shall resume as soon as the customer submits its request.

At the same time with the full-rate production in Moscow, Klimov JSC in St. Petersburg continues to refine the RD-33MK and RD-93. According to Klimov, the company’s jet engine priorities are the development of the modified RD-93MA with the thrust enhanced to 9,300 kgf for a foreign customer and the development of the upgraded RD-33MKM with a thrust of 9,500 kgf for the MiG corporation.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

The landing bay door is also yellow, but looks the same IMO.

only new antennas nothing new



sir jee check it full size and yellow parts are new.

yes only landing bay door seems a new piece, rest of the yellow antennas are old.
For comparison:
http://www.pafwallpapers.com/aircraft_gallery/JF-17_gallery/JF-17_pt-04_3.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/sdo9vk.jpg

 

[Imran Khan]

yes only landing bay door seems a new piece, rest of the yellow antennas are old.
For comparison:
http://www.pafwallpapers.com/aircraft_gallery/JF-17_gallery/JF-17_pt-04_3.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/sdo9vk.jpg

thanks sir jeee so its in china for that door

 

[VelocuR]

Holy cow, this PT-04 seem very huge size beside small jf-17 (chinese).

 

[Arsalan]

Holy cow, this PT-04 seem very huge size beside small jf-17 (chinese).

no Raptor, its just the angel the pic is taken from.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

thanks sir jeee so its in china for that door

No Sir jee, it must be there for something fishy, maybe for new integrations, modifications, but who knows the details. We should wait for the details and should not rely on speculation.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

May be he is talking about RD-33MK variant which is in production and being used in Mig 29K which has wet thrust of 88.3 KN{9000lb thrust}.....

Its highly unlikely that we get RD-33MK without Indian objections, since new MIG-29K are powered by this engine, also it will boost JFT performance to next level which again goes against Indian interests.
So they have made an upgraded version RD-93MA for an export customer (China, Pakistan) which is a little inferior to RD-33MK, hoping that it will not hurt Indian ego. But still it has not entered into production.
As news posted by Nabil_05

At the same time with the full-rate production in Moscow, Klimov JSC in St. Petersburg continues to refine the RD-33MK and RD-93. According to Klimov, the company’s jet engine priorities are the development of the modified RD-93MA with the thrust enhanced to 9,300 kgf for a foreign customer and the development of the upgraded RD-33MKM with a thrust of 9,500 kgf for the MiG corporation.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/jf-17-...ole-fighter-thread-4-a-604.html#ixzz2FUJjYjv7

 

[Mani2020]

Just one thing....

pessimism will lead you nowhere.

I would prefer to be called a pessimist over impulsive or patriotic fool anyday

btw no offence intended to any of the guys who share these news neither my post meant to de-moralize any of such people..its just what i have learnt from my experience and i am sticking to it until there comes some pragmatism in these developments

 

[A.Rafay]

no Raptor, its just the angel the pic is taken from.

No the angle is fine, that JFT does look bigger, Look carefully:

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

I would prefer to be called a pessimist over impulsive or patriotic fool anyday

btw no offence intended to any of the guys who share these news neither my post meant to de-moralize any of such people..its just what i have learnt from my experience and i am sticking to it until there comes some pragmatism in these developments

You know, when truth comes out against our expectations, it hurts a lot.
We expect too much from ourselves without even realising and knowing our capabilities.

Just wait for Block-2 unveiling, people will be beating eachother here.

 

[Thunder_Rider]

http://i.imgur.com/9Eyj6.jpg

JF-17 is not bigger than the Chinese one....... its just the angle of the image that shows it like that
look at this pic.....