Hi,
All war planes are developed and designed by air forces directly or indirectly---this plane was developed by chinese industrial complex with pak giving the input what they wanted alongwith their engineers and pilots---so nothing new or big deal about it. Paf is talking like it has re-invented the wheel.
It is the same every where else as well. The nations that build planes have advanced engineering complexes and vast industrial base where private sector is ****** rich or is funded by the govt as well.
These private industrial complexes have serving air force pilots---retd air force pilots---aeronautical engineers---metalurgists---scientists---you name it they got it---they got money---technology---research---manpower that pakistan cannot imagine in its wildest of dreams---so why would the air forces of these nations start building what they don't need to.
In pakistan---WAKE UP YOUNG PAKISTANI---the only major industrial complex with any substantial engineering background and production capability is the pak millitary---take it to the private sector and they got nothing---just a little bit here a tad bit there---nothing of subsatnce---so who do you think would be involved in building the plane.
Pakistan air force is pursuing this plane just for the sake of their ego---once they found out about the J 10---that is what they should gone after---and the J 11---.
JF 17 is a dumb mistake---one of many---.
Pak would be better served with 60-75 J 11's and 200 J 10's alongwith the F 16's.
60-75 plus J 11's will be sufficient to put pak airforce at par with the iaf on its own turf.
Paf desperately needed some heavy weight to go mano a mano against the su30---but they are strutting around with their puny little achievement---fool me once shame on you---fool me twice---shame on me---pak public has been fooled again.
Your fighter interceptors needs to make a power statement---where you needed a steriod filled heavy muscular machine---you are sending in a chicken hawk---.
Pakistan air force needed a PITBULL to face indian air force---all they have been able to come up is a chihuahua.
The sole purpose of the project was to come up with something that the enemy will stop for a moment and think about the consequences---jf 17 does nothing of that kind---if it didnot bring india to the table---then the project is a failure.
Suppose if pakistan had a fleet of 75 J 11's---75 F 16's blk 52's and MLU's and 75 M2K9's---does anyone think that india's power posturing would have been different---.
Please don't talk about paf being the only air force to make their own plane---.
Mastan Sir,
Musharaf was shown the J-10 even before it was officially shown or declassified to the world back in 2006 when he visited China early in the year.
The principal decision to buy the J-10 was done in that year alone as per reports.
As for JF-17, the forth evolved prototype came into existence in mid of 2006.
So if PAF had come to know that this is a dumb plane when compared to J-10, they would have stopped its, JF-17 development and concentrated on J-10, but some of the members have very perfectly explained what role JF-17 is gonna play.
And as for ego, well we are not a cash rich country to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a plane to just keep up our ego and not let it hurt. We are cash trapped and these hundreds of millions of dollars would have helped our ego in many other ways if we had this ego problem.
When there is ego problem, then such projects are kept alive barely, just like a human is kept alive on different kind of machines knowing the person will not be opening his eyes to see another day, so that egos are not hurt, but JF-17 has not only been kept alive, rather its now working fully and has a long road of its own life span ahead of it.
And past wars and conflicts have clearly told us that, size or technological superiority doesn't always guarantees success, be it machines, economies, man power or human being himself.
Its good you and others think or take JF-17 to be a chihuahua, but may be this same chihuahua one day becomes a pain in the arse of someone else.
Plus, how many of us, including you Sir, know about the true capability & advantages of what JF-17 is offering us ??
Anyhow, was surprised with you above post, did not thought to ever hear something from you.
But, would be better if you and others stop taking JF-17 as a frontline fighter whose main role is to take on MKIs rather see it as a replacement of the hundreds of decades old fighters in PAF service, and see the F-16s & FC-20s as the main contenders to take on the MKIs and other newer platforms which they are gonna add in coming years except for the 5th gen ones.
And one other thing, JF-17 in its current form can take on any of the other fighters serving the IAF fleet except the MKIs, which itself is something.
Wouldn't it be better that JF-17 takes on the Mig-21s or Bisons or other Mig variants in IAF fleet rather then the A-5s taking the job and failing misreably.
