JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Especially video of the JF-17 Block 3; the best opportunity to get some B-Roll for JF-17 Marketing displays for the next air show.

I hope the PAF puts some money aside to record aerial footage of the F-16, JF-17, Erieye, etc using the CN-235.

IMO a few fours of footage would last years, even decades, in value (if they drip-release the stuff).

 

[jedijedi]

Most companies would sue you for copyright and patent infringement even when you are in development stage of a car engiene. The reason being base tech for car engiene is patented by big companies. Even some large car manufacturers utilised dedicated engine manufacturing companies for their car engines. A toyota made car doesnt nexessarily have a made by Toyota car engiene. China has a unique position being second largest economy still they face lawsuits every other day. Manufacturing car engiene itself is no big feet but keeping the large industrial wolves at bay will cost you a fortune.

Military tech is an entirely different matter as you dont require commercial utilisation hence much less oversight. Still OEMs always are on tail.

I think this refers more to our manufacturing prowess owing to maturity (or lack thereof) of the involved industries in Pakistan. Name 1 modern cutting edge precision engineering metal product that Pakistan manufactures and/or exports?
Patents can be legitimately procured and partnerships forged. You do know that most top German car makers partner with Chinese companies to make Engines there. Wouldn't Pakistani Auto Makers owned partly by foreign companies have all the patents for all engines they use in the cars sold in Pakistan. They would love to outsource engine manufacturing to Pakistani makers to save on taxes? We have hardly 1 bike engine maker in the 5th largest population on earth. There a desperate need and huge demand for such products and there are enough billionaire individuals and even larger conglomerates who'd love to cash in if it were that easy! So why don't we have such things being produced locally...
The inconvenient truth is that we don't have a mature enough metallurgy/steel industry (as yet) to produce necessary alloys, we don't have the precision engineering prowess or enough skilled human capital to make it feasible. If we force such an industry through sheer brute force of $$, it'd be impractically expensive and RoI unacceptable in the short and medium term.
India has legitimately top class educational institutes, a behemoth of a metallurgy/steel industry, it manufactures latest C130 and Apache AH-64 Fuselages among many other supremely high tech things and yet it can't make its own jet engine after 30 years of effort despite license producing complex aviation engines and here you are trying to explain how copyrights are the reason why we can't make ICE or maybe why we have a realistic chance to make our own jet engine.

 

[Fioril]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1477160659959824387

 

[AeroEngineer]

Pakistan main defence journalism hai hi kha bhai .... aik wajahat tha now he is also in USA .... so literally there is not a single Defence Journalist in Pakistan, Sumaira has started to report but her attitude is more towards reporting of Afghan affairs and Anti Terrorist Operations.

There was a woman member of this forum with Forum name @Spring Onion who is also a journalist (Members anyone of you know her real name) but not in the field Defence journalism. She was knowledgeable and had her aptitude for Defence matter but don't know why she is not interested in Defence Journalism might be because there is no scope in this field in Pakistan.

His (Wajahat’s) shows on PAF were cringe inducing

 

[iLION12345_1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1477160659959824387

Why does it looked so washed out and fake, couldn’t they have taken a better print. And is that really a missile on the center hardpoint? Is that even possible?

 

[baqai]

So Block III is now represented in alphabets as in "C" or the "C" designation is something else? is Kamra aiming to market the plane in lines of F-16 i.e. A,B,C,D with different blocks? slightly confused here

 

[sneakerspark]

Why does it looked so washed out and fake, couldn’t they have taken a better print. And is that really a missile on the center hardpoint? Is that even possible?

I think its a screen. It's not a print.

 

[iLION12345_1]

I think its a screen. It's not a print.

Projector screen would make sense, I’m surprised not many people are talking about this, it basically confirms what we we were waiting for…and are those dual racks + PL-15s I see?

 

[ARMalik]

So any official video or photos of J-10s? If no then let's just go on holidays.

 

[SQ8]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1477160659959824387

That centerline A2a missile is a real curiosity. Essentially allowing it to exceed the missile carriage capacity of the F-16(in a way since the F-16 can carry AMRAAMs on all its wired stations)
If they actually wired the plumbed hardpoints it could go to 10 air to air missiles matching the vanilla max air to air load of the Rafale.

However, the Eurofighter tested a dual meteor rack that allows it to carry 14 air to air missiles which could theoretically be used on the Rafale to give it the same payload.

 

[HRK]

His (Wajahat’s) shows on PAF were cringe inducing

agreed ... but those shows were used to give at least some information(s) which we could term as "authentic"

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Lol @Zarvan , you keep making threads without any solid/official confirmation.

 

[Trango Towers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1477160659959824387

Now jf17 'C'....what the f is "C"

These people are mixing j10 and jf17....jahils galore. Each idiot trying to outdo the previous

 

[untitled]

Now jf17 'C'....

JF17C is a major upgrade over the JF17A just like the F16C was a major upgrade over the F16A

 

[Cookie Monster]

That centerline A2a missile is a real curiosity. Essentially allowing it to exceed the missile carriage capacity of the F-16(in a way since the F-16 can carry AMRAAMs on all its wired stations)
If they actually wired the plumbed hardpoints it could go to 10 air to air missiles matching the vanilla max air to air load of the Rafale.

However, the Eurofighter tested a dual meteor rack that allows it to carry 14 air to air missiles which could theoretically be used on the Rafale to give it the same payload.

My guess would be it's just for illustration purposes...
...that kind of a load out doesn't seem to make much sense for most mission profiles(seems to be 5 PL15s with 2 CM400 and 2 PL10s)...
...not to mention the fuel tanks that would be needed for any meaningful range(at least the center one).