It was an utter chaos: An Indian blogger reflects on Operation Swift Retort

[Microsoft]

Hi,

The bottom line here is that the PAF FAILED in the end---. It had IAF being served on a platter---totally is disarray---and just like the pakistani cricket tea---the PAF also crumbled in a critical moment---.

The tragic part is that it gave away all its operational secrets for no gain at all---but a few bragging rights of shooting down an obsolete indian aircraft---.

Spreading some more misinformation to throw off Indians?

 

[ziaulislam]

The guy is an idiot. After accepting the sheer state of chaos on their side, he still believes in the F-16 BS.

```It was the luck of IAF when Wg Cdr Abhinandan managed to splash the F-16 within its range. But we lost our aircraft over enemy territory. This was happened due to lack of communication between airspace controller and pilot. He was not aware about his location and caught in the bait. All this was a result of jamming by Falcon 20. Therefore, this EW aircraft in service with Pakistan is surely a threat for IAF```

because he beliefs in luck?

an outrageous assumption based upon "luck"

this is funny

 

[Raider 21]

Hi,

The bottom line here is that the PAF FAILED in the end---. It had the IAF being served on a platter---totally in disarray---and just like the pakistani cricket team---the PAF also crumbled in a critical moment---.

The men amongst men---had cold feet and shaky knees---no one had the courage to take charge and smash the enemy image to a pulp and plaster it all over the kashmit skies---.

The tragic part is that it gave away all its operational secrets for no gain at all---but a few bragging rights of shooting down an obsolete indian aircraft---.

That's a good one

 

[Saudang]

what about indian victory over mi-17 ? that was major blood that day

That was a mistake. Indian armed forces investigated the incident, identified the cause, people were held accountable and findings were made public... unlike other neighbors who would have swept it under the carpet..

 

[Beast]

IMO, after interacting with indian members on few forums, i think the issue with indians (specially the keyboard warriors) they think that they are experts and knows everything, someday they will become economic experts making india superpower, than say how they are better than chinese, than how much successful they are in US, than someday military experts.

The reality is they can't differentiate between knowledge and information.

Bragging is in their DNA.

 

[Imran Khan]

That was a mistake. Indian armed forces investigated the incident, identified the cause, people were held accountable and findings were made public... unlike other neighbors who would have swept it under the carpet..

but that was a kill too

 

[Titanium100]

Bragging is in their DNA.

An insignificiant disjoined and divided subcontinent because it is certainly not a country

 

[Saudang]

but that was a kill too

yes sir it was a kill too

 

[Rafael]

That was a mistake. Indian armed forces investigated the incident, identified the cause, people were held accountable and findings were made public... unlike other neighbors who would have swept it under the carpet..

Only after the PM had secured the victory in elections at the cost of IAF and its prestige while we heard the 'village men took the black box' and dog ate my home work kind of excuses. Your military essentially became a tool for a political party and ceased to exist as an arm of the state.

Kind of thing that will never happen on this side of the border!

 

[Imran Khan]

yes sir it was a kill too

then why indians did not claim it and keep eye closed from it always in every article .

 

[Saudang]

Only after the PM had secured the victory in elections at the cost of IAF and its prestige while we heard the 'village men took the black box' and dog ate my home work kind of excuses. Your military essentially became a tool for a political party and ceased to exist as an arm of the state.

Kind of thing that will never happen on this side of the border!

really ?

"war till victory" that was the bold headline on first page of Dawn on 16th December 1971, while someone was signing the surrender agreements

then why indians did not claim it and keep eye closed from it always in every article .

Good suggestion. Let me suggest that to Narendra Modi and Ajit Doval

Thanks

 

[crankthatskunk]

If u beleive the post written by anonymous ppl on quora...

u shud believe the whole damn sh#t haha...

this blogger has no idea abt special mission aircrafts on IAF disposal...

Sure, so you do.
shoot. What are they!!

 

[Shah_Deu]

*Mods feel free to move the thread to the appropriate place.*

Source: Defense Update India

Which PAF aircraft is the biggest threat for the Indian Air Force?

Our SU-30 pilots couldn’t talk with the ATC, Abhinandan, in his MiG-21 couldn’t hear a thing. The AEW&C aircraft tried to contact him to tell him disengage and return to his base, he couldn’t hear anything. The jammers, were just too powerful, they could have jammed our ground based radars too, and there would be no burn-through, their jammers are too powerful, they’d have to come very close to our radars so that the jamming becomes ineffective, the MiGs and Sukhoi’s were flying without any ability to communicate with each other, they had to rely on their jamming resistant radars so that they could get an idea of what was happening. It was utter chaos, this gave the Pakistani Air Force a lot of time to bomb the targets and get away.

The Indian Air Force does not have any dedicated jamming aircraft, India relies on its fighters for jamming. Our aircraft, when going for a sortie have to carry missiles, bombs and fuel, this means that their payload after putting all of the things is limited, that means, India can not put very heavy and powerful jammers on the aircraft, giving them a short range and limited capabilities. The Pakistanis, on the other hand, use civilian business jets which do not need to carry missiles or bombs or anything else, they only have to carry fuel and their EW equipment, this means that they can carry very powerful jammers giving them a very long range and a lot of capabilities. Pakistan is about 5 or so years ahead of India in Electronic Warfare and what I call ‘asymmetric methods’.

But one thing is seriously concerning, PAF was aware about problems in IAF. We all know how communication plays an important role in defence. They had information that IAF doesn’t use secure comms. And hence, they managed to strike this critical element. And successfully excecuted their plan of Hit And Run.

These type of sane articles dont serve our purpose a bit. We need more of Arnabs and Republic TVs with fake war sets, and the "we-are-the-besht" type of blind-praising media continously bad-mouthing Pakistan, and the politicians believing in lemons, and the bhakts believing in wiping out the naysayers, and the analysts with zero critical assessment abilities which is whats suits us the most. This Godi government needs atleast 10 years more to wipe out whatever sane minds like Pravin Sawhney and the writer of such articles are left over there. None of our secret agents could have done a dime to what this Modi-Shah-Yogi treo and Godi media have achieved in a such a short span.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

BS now quora is a source !

Best they are accepting anything except f 16 down....

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Hi,

The bottom line here is that the PAF FAILED in the end---. It had the IAF being served on a platter---totally in disarray---and just like the pakistani cricket team---the PAF also crumbled in a critical moment---.

The men amongst men---had cold feet and shaky knees---no one had the courage to take charge and smash the enemy image to a pulp and plaster it all over the kashmit skies---.

The tragic part is that it gave away all its operational secrets for no gain at all---but a few bragging rights of shooting down an obsolete indian aircraft---.

This guy does make a point.