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Israeli soldier who killed mother and daughter is sentenced to 45 days

Son of a *****!

Its not a murder. It happened during the war, where other side uses civilian clothes, including women and hides behind civilians.

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Here a good example how Hamas is using its women:



BBC NEWS | Middle East | Gaza women killed in mosque siege
We are also talking about a 5 year old!
 
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Its not a murder. It happened during the war, where other side uses civilian clothes, including women and hides behind civilians.

ispal.1345112234.jpg


Here a good example how Hamas is using its women:



BBC NEWS | Middle East | Gaza women killed in mosque siege

Wasn't Hamas created by Mossad to undermine PLO?
Thanks to the Mossad, Israel's "Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks", the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation

Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)".



Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Islamist movement in Palestine, returning from Cairo in the seventies, established an Islamic charity association. Prime Minister Golda Meir, saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s Fatah movement. .According to the Israeli weekly Koteret Rashit (October 1987), "The Islamic associations as well as the university had been supported and encouraged by the Israeli military authority" in charge of the (civilian) administration of the West Bank and Gaza. "They [the Islamic associations and the university] were authorized to receive money payments from abroad."

The Islamists set up orphanages and health clinics, as well as a network of schools, workshops which created employment for women as well as system of financial aid to the poor. And in 1978, they created an "Islamic University" in Gaza. "The military authority was convinced that these activities would weaken both the PLO and the leftist organizations in Gaza." At the end of 1992, there were six hundred mosques in Gaza. Thanks to Israel’s intelligence agency Mossad (Israel’s Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks) , the Islamists were allowed to reinforce their presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, the members of Fatah (Movement for the National Liberation of Palestine) and the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression.

In 1984, Ahmed Yassin was arrested and condemned to twelve years in prison, after the discovery of a hidden arms cache. But one year later, he was set free and resumed his activities. And when the Intifada (‘uprising’) began, in October 1987, which took the Islamists by surprise, Sheik Yassin responded by creating the Hamas (The Islamic Resistance Movement): "God is our beginning, the prophet our model, the Koran our constitution", proclaims article 7 of the charter of the organization.

Ahmed Yassin was in prison when, the Oslo accords (Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government) were signed in September 1993. The Hamas had rejected Oslo outright. But at that time, 70% of Palestinians had condemned the attacks on Israeli civilians. Yassin did everything in his power to undermine the Oslo accords. Even prior to Prime Minister Rabin’s death, he had the support of the Israeli government. The latter was very reluctant to implement the peace agreement.

The Hamas then launched a carefully timed campaign of attacks against civilians, one day before the meeting between Palestinian and Israeli negotiators, regarding the formal recognition of Israel by the National Palestinian Council. These events were largely instrumental in the formation of a Right wing Israeli government following the May 1996 elections.
Hamas is a Creation of Mossad
 
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Have you heard of Operation Cyclone?



No, no - it was Pakistan which imported Israeli weapons.

What Mujahideen had??? AKs....and American Stingers.... On the other hand your guys are still buying from Israel and all their allies..... Why so hypocrisy and double standards in sharing Information..... What kind of stupid point is that we bought weapons from Israel which never happend as our dealing was with USA not Israel.

Its not a murder. It happened during the war, where other side uses civilian clothes, including women and hides behind civilians.

ispal.1345112234.jpg


Here a good example how Hamas is using its women:



BBC NEWS | Middle East | Gaza women killed in mosque siege

If this man can get arrested.....what was the obstacle on arresting an old women and her middleage daughter.
 
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and moreover Israelese are living in continuous fear due to Terrorists. When afraid ppl became crancky and they do stupid things...

What fear? Sorry for a country which has intelligence and has a university which ranks in top 10 in the world with soldiers given immunity and allowed to kill civilians and get away with...I don't really know what sort of fear or pity such people need?!

We don't know why that soldier shoot them, may be he was scared , may be he suspected them...

Oh yea we don't...it's just normal instincts of a soldier to kill even if he sees a 60+ yr old woman and her 30+ yr old daughter running with a white flag...Am not sure what sort of training was given if he doesn't know what a white flag means....

PLUS SINCE a soldier knows more about the laws than a civilian, he should have STRICTER punishments but letting him off with 45 days is like saying...Ooops sorry just shot 2 more!
 
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Thanks god Israel run by there rule, Not yours. :)




Are you playing spot the difference???? Understand the meaning.

Yea, well - you might be thanking God - do you think the Palestinians are thanking God? A murder is a murder in any circumstances. To disperse crowds creating hassles, rubber bullets and tear gas can also be used. When you defend tyranny, you might one day be on the receiving end of it.

What Mujahideen had??? AKs....and American Stingers.... On the other hand your guys are still buying from Israel and all their allies..... Why so hypocrisy and double standards in sharing Information..... What kind of stupid point is that we bought weapons from Israel which never happend as our dealing was with USA not Israel.



If this man can get arrested.....what was the obstacle on arresting an old women and her middleage daughter.

Do you even understand the meaning of double standards?

1. India buys weapons from Israel - it does so openly. It also recognizes the State of Israel.

2. Pakistan buys weapons from Israel - it does so covertly. It does not even recognize the existence of Israel publicly.

So who has the double standards?

Something is better than nothing,... and moreover Israelese are living in continuous fear due to Terrorists. When afraid ppl became crancky and they do stupid things...


We have seen many incidents where terrorists blow themself after the get close to army. We don't know why that soldier shoot them, may be he was scared , may be he suspected them...

Are you suggesting that the Israeli soldier holding an assault rifle was scared of some civilians with rocks and sticks and so to protect himself - killed them? Not shot them in the foot. Not disarmed them of their err - "dangerous" weapons - but killed them in cold blood?

So, anyone can be a suicide bomber in any part of the world. Do soldiers become trigger happy and start shooting civilians?
 
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If this man can get arrested.....what was the obstacle on arresting an old women and her middleage daughter.
Israel does not control Gaza anymore. The event in question happened in the middle of the battle.

During last Gaza conflict 4 Israeli soldiers were killed by friendly fire and those who killed were not prosecuted at all. Not even one day in prison.
 
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No not justifying, He is punished according to Israeli law. Islamic law or international law is not applicable on Israel.. I will remind you one few incidents...

1. Hafeez Saeed and ISI: Murdered 200+ indian, no punishment, not even symbolic.
2. 2000 Ramallah lynching , where a unarmed soldier was lynched by Terrorists, No punishment, not even symbolic.
3. Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikhr : killed indian passenger , Not punished , not even symbolic...

You should be happy that Israel is punishing the culprits...

Look at this fool, once again derailing the thread because he has no excuses. You justify murder as if it is childs play. If Hafiz Saeed was sentenced to 45 days in jail you Bhartis on this forum would be kicking up a storm. Damn hypocrite making all Indians look bad with your stupidity.

Its not a murder. It happened during the war, where other side uses civilian clothes, including women and hides behind civilians.

ispal.1345112234.jpg


Here a good example how Hamas is using its women:



BBC NEWS | Middle East | Gaza women killed in mosque siege

So your soldiers found it easier to arrest a man then a couple of women.
 
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What has Pakistan ever done for Palestine other than some protests on the street and burning flags ,which hardly helps them. India has given way more aid to Palestine than Pakistan could ever give. No country in the South Asian Region has a foreign master except Pakistan . US gives you aid money to conduct target practice with drones on your people .You should be proud.

Although most Indians are Israel supporters and don't care much about the Palestinian cause , we have actually done things to improve their life , like giving aid. But Pakistan is an aid receiver , not a donor and can't really help Palestine.

Do u realize your country has the most people that have AIDS? How the hell did u find a wife in that open air shithole as your politicians said?
 
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So your soldiers found it easier to arrest a man then a couple of women.
This guy was arrested in 2003, when Israel still controlled Gaza.

In 2006 all 14 Hamas militants dressed as women managed to escape unharmed. That happened after the pullout.
 
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This is an incomplete report I am afraid, the report in Israel says that the soldier was indicted by the military advocate in the charge of manslaughter and because his lawyers prooved beyond resonable doubt that he personaly was not a participant in this incident, the judges decided to change the charges to illegal use of weapons. in short the report here says that the soldier admitted shooting warning shots at an advancing different group of civilans and not hitting them at a distance 300 meter from where the two women were killed , he testified that he shot those warning shots because they had inforamation about a terrorist going to bomb himself when the group of civilians will come near them. when the soldier started shooting those warning shots (and not hitting anyone) his company cammander got upset at him and immidiatly discharged him from his duty. I coulden't find any english sources. what I know I wrote from hebrew ones and from a radio interview with the soldier. so in conclusion its 45 days for illegal use of weapon (warning shots) at a time of war.
 
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This is because muslims still have many traitors among them. Those traitors shall be crushed to re consequent Palestine and kick the Zionists to their origin lands.
 
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