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Is Turkey the Punching Bag?

I guarantee you, 30-40 years ago if you asked any EDUCATED Turk about PKK they would tell you that Soviets are behind them.
30-40 years ago USA was not that savvy to create fethullan or some other religious Islamic movements. We were busy fighting Soviets and in Afghanistan outsourced anything that relates to Islam and recruitment to Saudis and Pakistanis. Believe what you want but if it easy for you to blame USA then be it. But that won’t change reality on the ground. The mess that you inherited in Syria with sdf is because of Erdogans sissy policy first for not listening to Obama and second for caving in to Russians.
PKK is a convinient toy to use against Turkey, when you have beef against her. It is Turkey's fault not to take that card from their hands or make that card useless.

Let me tell you a little secret- we are strong economically because first and foremost we have RULE OF LAW. Investors trust USA. China is strong but there is no rule of law. Xi just like Erdogan changes constitution and usurped power. Investors don’t like that. I hope you know why.
Second- DT lowered corporate tax. So everyone invests in USA. It’s better to invest in USA than to Canada or even Mexico. That makes Canada nervous.
Third not only foreign investors but local corporations return their assets from offshore accounts to USA.
I could go on but there is no point. You think on the level of oil, gas and FED
With these sanctions and economic war, countries will group up to set up their own bilateral trade agreements to skip US financial system. The world has enstrusted on US to keep the financial system available for world trade. It has benefitted US the most , with US dollar becoming the reserve money. If US dollar loses its use as reserve money, you will face with the reality that US is not that much of an invincible financial giant as you claim it to be. It is pathetic to see that US uses the financial in its control ,that was supposed to beneficial for everyone, to punish weaker countries as a bullying tool. EU is making plans to skip US system, others will follow. If that day comes, i will say " have fun trying to buy stuff with your printed dollar this time".
 
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Turkey have done a lot of things hurt Chinese interest

But I think Chinese government will give a hand in the end, a stable turkey is in Asian countries interest

China is a nation eye in the future and stand on win-win

Don’t blame erdogan too much, it is not all his fault
Japan is loyal to USA, don’t forget what USA have done to Japan in the 80s of last century
USA is in deep debt crisis again ,it need some other countries to pay for them,I don’t think EU can flee away without paying significant USA fee
Why not blame Erdogan? Many of his policies build up this paper tiger in the Bospherous. His party actively support racist conservative Islamic ideology and if you really understand Turkey, Islamic fascism in disguise. China should avoid Erdogan's Turkish dilemma, and stay with IMF bailout because of fundamental structural issues like a flaky government, huge current account deficit, unstable borders and unproductive work force does not make a sound investment. Greece on the other hand, at least had EU bailout to bank on. If China invest in Turkey before EU and IMF bailout, Chinese investment will only be used as cannon fodder.
 
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Erdoğan is not an islamist, he is rather a beneficialist. He looks for his own benefit, that is his ideology. If his benefit lays on abusing islam, he does that. If his benefit lays on abusing other religions or ideologies, he does that. He doesn't give single penny in islam or quran, heck he even appointed a minister who mocked up with quran :lol:

He uses islam to get vote and authority, he steals people's money, he enjoys his life. That's it. He has nothing to do with islam or any other religion.
 
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Start at least the talk about a possible close for Incirlik airbase wow man.
 
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Yesterday Mike Pence, midnight Trump.

They are enjoying how easy to slap a country, Turkey. They are slapping our nation right and left, right and left, right and left..

... day and night, day and night, day and night..

They enjoy to abuse our nation, because they know that the clowns in our government will do nothing. So, Turkey, the Punching Bag, is just so enjoying to punch for them. They cannot stop punching us. Who cares? It's not like Turkey will sanction US army, it's not like Turkish government (???) will sanction US by closing airspace and bosporus. Trump has nothing to lose with our current government. They are pissing in Turkey's mouth, they are raping our nation, they laugh and don't care since they know that nothing will happen to them!

Amk çomarları.
Lobby "English" name change in UN. I vote for "Turkye", maybe the Europeans and American will respect your country a little more rather than a dinner bird for Thanksgiving.
 
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The inflation started over a year ago. All experts say interest rates must rise or inflation continues. Closing bases doesnt change the market.

Western capital leaves Turkey for other reasons. Growing instability.
You spaghetti - i know you got banned - but why are you obviously trying to provoke turkish users - just because you are an angry european citizen - maybe not even italian but some exile pkkonkey? I'm wondering why you hate turkey so much, but still trying to sound calm and objective? I think - deep in your heart you know, that you would like to obliterate turkey..
 
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You spaghetti - i know you got banned - but why are you obviously trying to provoke turkish users - just because you are an angry european citizen - maybe not even italian but some exile pkkonkey? I'm wondering why you hate turkey so much, but still trying to sound calm and objective? I think - deep in your heart you know, that you would like to obliterate turkey..
Well he is right though, which is all that matters right?

Lira lost almost 60% of its value since the beginning of 2018. That alone means about an extra 10% inflation.
 
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Well he is right though, which is all that matters right?

Lira lost almost 60% of its value since the beginning of 2018. That alone means about an extra 10% inflation.
He might be right in terms of economy, inflation etc. - but these provocations and resentments in his sentences are unnecessary.. he talks about the downfall of the turkish nations, about firewalls and that the EU should be happy about that - he talked about the EU pissed on turkey by dont paying the spoken money for the refugees and closing the borders at the same time - so tukey got used by the EU and didnt gain nothing e.g. visa - he is crying cause the media called germany legitimately nazi - as an italian caveman? why he got so triggered? he is a germany living exile pkkonkey. period.
you should understand very well, why I'm talking this way to that piece of assspaghetti macho bright *** hair licked blackhead dont knowing shit but playing women, playing mafia and be an uneducated mountain italo villian..
no I am not sorry
 
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He might be right in terms of economy, inflation etc. - but these provocations and resentments in his sentences are unnecessary.. he talks about the downfall of the turkish nations, about firewalls and that the EU should be happy about that - he talked about the EU pissed on turkey by dont paying the spoken money for the refugees and closing the borders at the same time - so tukey got used by the EU and didnt gain nothing e.g. visa - he is crying cause the media called germany legitimately nazi - as an italian caveman? why he got so triggered? he is a germany living exile pkkonkey. period.
you should understand very well, why I'm talking this way to that piece of assspaghetti macho bright *** hair licked blackhead dont knowing shit but playing women, playing mafia and be an uneducated mountain italo villian..
no I am not sorry

Maybe he tells the truth (in a hard way), doesn’t matter in which inaccurate words he did. You don’t like this kind of statements (nobody like it), on the other side you applaude Erdogans hate speech about Europe. Doesn’t matter if he is right in the matter. He reminds me on Duterte in his undiplomatic words. This brought him many enemies and now Turkey pay the price for Erdogans behavior.
 
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Maybe he tells the truth (in a hard way), doesn’t matter in which inaccurate words he did. You don’t like this kind of statements (nobody like it), on the other side you applaude Erdogans hate speech about Europe. Doesn’t matter if he is right in the matter. He reminds me on Duterte in his undiplomatic words. This brought him many enemies and now Turkey pay the price for Erdogans behavior.
I am sure that he is telling the truth - turkey got used, the EU would be very happy about any type of downfall of turkey - I know that very well, but being provocative isn't they way he should behave telling us the reality we already know, so concerning this - he earned every single word. And if the EU and its citizens are thinking that us turkish people are so naive, that we wouldn't recognize the reason behind it, that it has nothing to do with erdogan but with the turkophobia of the occident, then my brother - the europeans are just dumb.
We know that the most of you people would love to see the turks getting massacred - deep in your heart - it's because ya'll got raised with this over generations.. you in germany - not only in germany - but in midwest europe.. you loved the "gastarbeiter" from spain, italy, yugoslavia, greece - even if they behaved like shit - misusing your women - barbecuing whole pork on their balconies - but there was one big difference to turks - them all are Christians.. and yeah, we arent.. the most of you dont give a **** about faith and god - you dont even know if there is any difference between being catholic oder orthodox, going to church once a year so santa wouldnt be mean.. but in terms of culture and history - even if you fight ya'll over centuries til 1945 - you had one enemy in common, the muselmanns, the turks..
now **** off with your erdogan bashing shit coming from you fucked up zionist media - trying to excuse spaghettiasses words - stop acting like nazis -
allowing berlusconi to **** your chancellor, letting someone like putin speak in the parliament, but forbid erdogan or some other ministers to visit germany, having national freed zones in eastern germany, a far right winged party gets elected bei 20%, burning refugee housings and mosques - over 1000 in 2015/16 - NSU - etc.. but complaining about erdogan called you nazis? you let ya people vote for trump, the polish people voted a nazi gouvernement next to germany, no word in your media, no word about embargos or sanctions ...maaaaaaan stfu..

EDIT: Turks are very kind and friendly - we love to see different nationalities showing interest for turkey or the military development and other projects... but please - even if you dont like us - just behave.. stop being provocative.. dont insult a whole nation as goatfckrs.. stop asking provocative questions about pkk etc., dont try to excuse other european asslickers...
we know we have some kurds in prison with german citizenship former turkish citizenship - so yall call them imprisoned germans although they arent.. but just think about how many turkish guys you imprisoned in germany.. you heard any words?

I am watching you - bruder
 
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Turkey, is the only country on earth, that is free to be punched, pissed on, raped freely. Turkey will not complain, yet alone give any respond, since it does not have any government. Turkey will smile to you when you punch it, Turkey will ask more..

Where the f@ck is our government? Why the f@ck our airspace and bosporus are still open to US?

Do we have any single honor left? Any kind of national interest at least?

Money is the only thing they care about in Turkey right now.
 
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Lobby "English" name change in UN. I vote for "Turkye", maybe the Europeans and American will respect your country a little more rather than a dinner bird for Thanksgiving.
Turkia would follow the standard nomenclature in english. It would take some getting used to though, and given there is so much history and literature which uses "Turkey" I don't think will catch on. You would have better success in changing the name of the turkey bird to one of the native American words for the bird instead.
 
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Not even mouth! We don't even hear any statement as "threatening for action" even tho it would be only mouth and not action. There is not even mouth! It's just one way slapping from US towards Turkey and our government (do we have one???) acts like they do not exist at all o_O

It's like US has video sex tapes of each of our government members so our government has to stay silent and swallow US slaps or US will release those tapes o_O
 
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