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[yavar]

 

[07_SeppDietrich]

So F-313 will be fly at 22nd of August?

 

[PeeD]

So its not a armed Kowsar. But it could be just a close support aircraft; probably means subsonic, no radar.
A Kowsar like Su-25? Is that a good idea in times of drones? IRGC-ASF might have pushed for something like that to replace their Su-25 given to Iraq.

So I hope not that this is what they want to show.
But as the Qaher 313 is also described as close support aircraft, there is still a slim chance. But as he said it is new, with a new name and will be unveiled... it again hints to a Su-25/Kowsar hybrid requested by the IRGC-ASF.

Lets see.

 

[ANDROMEDA]

So F-313 will be fly at 22nd of August?

Doesn't seem so.probably kowsar training/light fighter aircraft which might be equipped with canon and some air to ground weapons.

 

[07_SeppDietrich]

Doesn't seem so.probably kowsar training/light fighter aircraft which might be equipped with canon and some air to ground weapons.

Can't wait to see it,i hope it's F-313

 

[mohsen]

So its not a armed Kowsar. But it could be just a close support aircraft; probably means subsonic, no radar.
A Kowsar like Su-25? Is that a good idea in times of drones? IRGC-ASF might have pushed for something like that to replace their Su-25 given to Iraq.

So I hope not that this is what they want to show.
But as the Qaher 313 is also described as close support aircraft, there is still a slim chance. But as he said it is new, with a new name and will be unveiled... it again hints to a Su-25/Kowsar hybrid requested by the IRGC-ASF.

Lets see.

He called it a fighter and close support aircraft, so it can't be kowsar for sure.

also he said the other one is a training aircraft, if it's Qaher, then what happened to it's close support role, though calling a single seat aircraft a training aircraft is bizarre too.

If they are going to use the owj engines in this one too, then it would be an ultra ridiculous move to design another close support aircraft without a radar too, cause basically it would be just another F5, or if it has stealth characteristics another Qaher.

 

[sahureka2]

He called it a fighter and close support aircraft, so it can't be kowsar for sure.

also he said the other one is a training aircraft, if it's Qaher, then what happened to it's close support role, though calling a single seat aircraft a training aircraft is bizarre too.

If they are going to use the owj engines in this one too, then it would be an ultra ridiculous move to design another close support aircraft without a radar too, cause basically it would be just another F5, or if it has stealth characteristics another Qaher.

I propose again my hypothesis (photoshop) realized in 2017, when the Kowsar was presented.
Starting from the Kowsar structure, a light attack aircraft could be extrapolated with the appropriate adaptations.

Kowsar is a low-cost and risk alternative.
Certainly for a Close Air Support (CAS), it is quick to use the normal trainer version.
If you want to make a Lightweight Strike Aircraft in a single seat version, there is certainly an additional cost for a partial rearrangement of the front including weight re-calculation, however, eliminating the posterior pilot seat, you could expand the fuel tank.
Then we should know, the number of Hardpoints and capacity of Kg / pounds, are already provided on the Trainer version, to evaluate, if considered insufficient, a possible recalculation of the wing structure to increase capacity

 

[TheImmortal]

I propose again my hypothesis (photoshop) realized in 2017, when the Kowsar was presented.
Starting from the Kowsar structure, a light attack aircraft could be extrapolated with the appropriate adaptations.

Kowsar is a low-cost and risk alternative.
Certainly for a Close Air Support (CAS), it is quick to use the normal trainer version.
If you want to make a Lightweight Strike Aircraft in a single seat version, there is certainly an additional cost for a partial rearrangement of the front including weight re-calculation, however, eliminating the posterior pilot seat, you could expand the fuel tank.
Then we should know, the number of Hardpoints and capacity of Kg / pounds, are already provided on the Trainer version, to evaluate, if considered insufficient, a possible recalculation of the wing structure to increase capacity

Let’s be honest this trainer is garbage, just another reincarnated F-5.

It will not get anywhere other than maybe 7-12 being made as a test squadron.

IRGC is already working on a CAS plane from experiences gained From Syrian civil war.

Neither IRGC or Iran airforce will accept this project.

He called it a fighter and close support aircraft, so it can't be kowsar for sure.

It’s Kowsar which is an DM project. It was already unveiled last year and now will make its official flight.

Expecting anything such as a completely new fighter or F-313 is unrealistic at this point.

 

[Parsipride]

I propose again my hypothesis (photoshop) realized in 2017, when the Kowsar was presented.
Starting from the Kowsar structure, a light attack aircraft could be extrapolated with the appropriate adaptations.

Kowsar is a low-cost and risk alternative.
Certainly for a Close Air Support (CAS), it is quick to use the normal trainer version.
If you want to make a Lightweight Strike Aircraft in a single seat version, there is certainly an additional cost for a partial rearrangement of the front including weight re-calculation, however, eliminating the posterior pilot seat, you could expand the fuel tank.
Then we should know, the number of Hardpoints and capacity of Kg / pounds, are already provided on the Trainer version, to evaluate, if considered insufficient, a possible recalculation of the wing structure to increase capacity

It will a repainted 1960's SU22 dubbed "Boomi" , and they will probably call it Majali after Ali's horse. Then a regime' mouth piece will call it logistic aircraft because he is illiterate and does not understand the real meaning of the word. He will go on and tell us about its stealth technologies and how it is one most advanced aircraft in the world and how warriors of the revolution will challenge the American Hornets.

Finally, you will have some tug portraying to be an expert tell us about the thousands of hours of man power it took to turn these flying hunks of shit into 6th generation aircraft and Iran has now joined the ranks of the top producers of fighter jets in the world.

 

[PeeD]

Its not the Kowsar, so much is sure from the interview.

 

[sahureka2]

garbage !, re-edition of the F-5!

it would still be a start in making a national plane in series.
However, up to this point, a engine of adequate power will not be available, it will not be possible to achieve something higher in terms of performance.
therefore at the moment I prefer to have something simple with honest performances (even if you call it garbage), but new and realizing all the components at home, that soon because of the aging of the airplanes have nothing.

However, August 22 is close, will surprise us with a presentation in flight, or will still be presented an aircraft that moves on the track?

 

[TheImmortal]

Its not the Kowsar, so much is sure from the interview.

The last possible option is “Sofreh Mahi” project which dates back to 2010(possibly earlier)

By 2012 it had reached 1/7th scale mock up testing and was going to be tested at close to scale mock-up before being sent to DM for production.

People forget that this was THE leading fighter jet project in Iran R&D prior to Qaher being shown in 2013.

There has certainly been enough time to get a flying prototype of Sofreh Mahi ready since intial mock up unveiling (2010).

Lastly it could be revival of Shafagh project or Saeghe III.

 

[Cthulhu]

Something is going on at the air force.
https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/1397/05/28/1806984/انتصاب-فرمانده-جدید-نیروی-هوایی-ارتش-با-حکم-فرمانده-معظم-کل-قوا

 

[yavar]

 

[sahureka2]

whatever the new plane, Hatami in the interview states
fighter jet flying

“A plane, which has passed several stages, will be presented on the Defense Industry Day and people will see the fighter jet flying from a close distance as well as the equipment used for its manufacture.”
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/08/19/571595/Iran-defense-Amir-Hatami