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[sha ah]

Again the S-300 has been produced since the late 70's. Iran received the latest and most modern export variant.

It's really not fair to compare Iran's S-300 batteries to those of Greece from 2 decades prior. It would be like comparing an F-16 from 1978 to one produced today. Same weapon, completely different technology behind it.

Russia is playing a careful balancing act with Iran. Of course they won't give Iran the most advanced hardware since it would make Iran powerful enough to challenge their own influence.

Also if Russia gave Iran the most advanced technology, it might lead to the USA and EU sanctioning Russia. They want to arm Iran but still stay under the radar.

In regards to China, tensions with the US are increasing and they are currently experiencing an energy crisis, along with economic issues in the real estate sector.

Iran wanted to trade oil for jets and considering the circumstances, such trade seems more likely than ever. Keep in mind that if China does go to war in the South China Sea they will need a large stockpile of oil and they will need Iran to have the capability to fend off military/economic pressure so that Iran can continually supply China. Therefore selling Iran the J-10 in exchange for Iranian oil makes more sense now than ever before.

I do agree that Iran would be better off by allowing more individual freedoms and by implementing a more pragmatic foreign policy. However at the moment it is what it is.

I don't believe that Russia offered Iran any S-400 and even took a decade and court action to get the outdated and questionable S-300 which the Greeks have had since the 90's and NATO has full knowledge of their capability or lack of it as they have never been tested in combat. However, I do agree that Russia today is feeling encircled and threatened by US and NATO and may be more amenable to sell Iran some modern weaponry, perhaps the older SU-30, but I would not hold my breath. China largely operates on economic interest and is a big buyer of Saudi and other western vassal Arab states oil, so I doubt it that China will even sell the J-10 to Iran. The mullahs have also mishandled Iranian foreign and strategic policies to an art form and failed to take advantage of the post Soviet era. Iran has a pretty educated population and a very skilled diaspora, but as long as the social restrictions and stifling domestic environment continues attracting skilled Iranians to develop critical technologies remains limited. Also the economic pressure imposed by the US and EU limits Iran's capacity to obtain modern technology and resources needed for mass aircraft manufacture.

 

[Darius77]

Again the S-300 has been produced since the late 70's. Iran received the latest and most modern export variant.

It's really not fair to compare Iran's S-300 batteries to those of Greece from 2 decades prior. It would be like comparing an F-16 from 1978 to one produced today. Same weapon, completely different technology behind it.

Russia is playing a careful balancing act with Iran. Of course they won't give Iran the most advanced hardware since it would make Iran powerful enough to challenge their own influence.

Also if Russia gave Iran the most advanced technology, it might lead to the USA and EU sanctioning Russia. They want to arm Iran but still stay under the radar.

In regards to China, tensions with the US are increasing and they are currently experiencing an energy crisis, along with economic issues in the real estate sector.

Iran wanted to trade oil for jets and considering the circumstances, such trade seems more likely than ever. Keep in mind that if China does go to war in the South China Sea they will need a large stockpile of oil and they will need Iran to have the capability to fend off military/economic pressure so that Iran can continually supply China. Therefore selling Iran the J-10 in exchange for Iranian oil makes more sense now than ever before.

I do agree that Iran would be better off by allowing more individual freedoms and by implementing a more pragmatic foreign policy. However at the moment it is what it is.

Good sensible and realistic comment. Iran is quite intellectually developed with a very robust civil society, but the government needs to ease up on the social restrictions and offer more personal freedoms. As you can see from our comments, even the educated diaspora is very nationalistic and will support Iran's progress if the social conditions are right. Iranian women are very educated and will not take these stifling restrictions for long. The Persians have had a very gender enlightened history and women have even fought in all the wars, including the defence of Khorramshahr recently. The Akhoond need to recognize that.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Good sensible and realistic comment. Iran is quite intellectually developed with a very robust civil society, but the government needs to ease up on the social restrictions and offer more personal freedoms. As you can see from our comments, even the educated diaspora is very nationalistic and will support Iran's progress if the social conditions are right. Iranian women are very educated and will not take these stifling restrictions for long. The Persians have had a very gender enlightened history and women have even fought in all the wars, including the defence of Khorramshahr recently. The Akhoond need to recognize that.

Iran has always been a paternalistic society, even in pre-Islamic times and in confirmity with sacred Tradition. The exacerbated feminist, egalitarian type of thinking represents a modernist, masonic / zionist vector of subversion meant to uproot and destroy nations. Women in essence aren't supposed to fight wars, and even if there might be a token percentage of females fit for the job, Islamic Iran has taken this into account. It's not as if the tokennumber of women who joined the frontlines at Khorramshahr (mostly in logistic roles, as nurses etc, not as combatants) did so against the will of the clergy. After all they were genuine Basijis themselves, madyune Velāyat to the core. And they loved wearing their chadors (maximum degree of Islamic hejab). But only a handful, as it should be according to Natural Law.

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Again the S-300 has been produced since the late 70's. Iran received the latest and most modern export variant.

It's really not fair to compare Iran's S-300 batteries to those of Greece from 2 decades prior. It would be like comparing an F-16 from 1978 to one produced today. Same weapon, completely different technology behind it.

Russia is playing a careful balancing act with Iran. Of course they won't give Iran the most advanced hardware since it would make Iran powerful enough to challenge their own influence.

Also if Russia gave Iran the most advanced technology, it might lead to the USA and EU sanctioning Russia. They want to arm Iran but still stay under the radar.

In regards to China, tensions with the US are increasing and they are currently experiencing an energy crisis, along with economic issues in the real estate sector.

Iran wanted to trade oil for jets and considering the circumstances, such trade seems more likely than ever. Keep in mind that if China does go to war in the South China Sea they will need a large stockpile of oil and they will need Iran to have the capability to fend off military/economic pressure so that Iran can continually supply China. Therefore selling Iran the J-10 in exchange for Iranian oil makes more sense now than ever before.

I do agree that Iran would be better off by allowing more individual freedoms and by implementing a more pragmatic foreign policy. However at the moment it is what it is.

Of course the S-300/S-400 hybrid sold to Iran has nothing to do with earlier examples supplied to Greece. It's a welcome addition to Iran's top notch AD network.

Besides, even if NATO had the opportunity to train against it - which it didn't, so what? This by itself is far from making the system useless.

 

[sha ah]

Veiling was common in Iran even before Islamic conquests. However today only a handful of countries enforce mandatory veiling.

Iran's women have more rights than most people in the world believe. For example there are more women in University than men.

Iran's culture is paternal oriented and had been for a long time, however the past doesn't necessarily have to define the future.

When women in Iran see women in other countries become a president or judge it makes them wonder why they can't have the same rights. Personally I believe they deserve those rights.

Iran has always been a paternalistic society, even in pre-Islamic times and in confirmity with sacred Tradition. The exacerbated feminist, egalitarian type of thinking represents a modernist, masonic / zionist vector of subversion meant to uproot and destroy nations. Women in essence aren't supposed to fight wars, and even if there might be a token percentage of females fit for the role, Islamic Iran has taken this into account. It's not as if the tiny handful of women who joined the frontlines at Khorramshahr (mostly in logistics, not as fighters) did so against the will of the clergy, no, they were hardcore Basijis themselves, madyune Velāyat and dastbuse rohānyat to the core. And they loved wearing their chadors (maximum-degree of Islamic hejab). But just a handful, as said, and as it should be according to Natural Law.

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Of course the S-300/S-400 hybrid sold to Iran has nothing to do with earlier examples supplied to Greece. It's a welcome addition to Iran's top notch AD network.

Besides, even if NATO had the opportunity to train against it - which it didn't, so what? This by itself doesn't make the system useless at all.

 

[jauk]

Veiling was common in Iran even before Islamic conquests. However today only a handful of countries enforce mandatory veiling.

Iran's women have more rights than most people in the world believe. For example there are more women in University than men.

Iran's culture is paternal oriented and had been for a long time, however the past doesn't necessarily have to define the future.

When women in Iran see women in other countries become a president or judge it makes them wonder why they can't have the same rights. Personally I believe they deserve those rights.

I'd love to see where this exchange goes. Can we move it to Chill?

 

[925boy]

When women in Iran see women in other countries become a president or judge it makes them wonder why they can't have the same rights. Personally I believe they deserve those rights.

"RIght" in 1 country can be "crime " in another country. Just saying, things are relative, not fixed and static.

 

[sha ah]

For myself the question isn't why but rather why not ? Why should Iranian women not be entitled to be a president or judge ? Why because Iranian society has traditionally been paternal oriented ?

On the other hand Iran is not the only country like this. Some oriental nations tend to favour men over women in the most prominent, leading roles insociety. Some European nations as well. It's a matter of cultural preference in some cases.

"RIght" in 1 country can be "crime " in another country. Just saying, things are relative, not fixed and static.

 

[925boy]

For myself the question isn't why but rather why not ? Why should Iranian women not be entitled to be a president or judge ? Why because Iranian society has traditionally been paternal oriented ?

On the other hand Iran is not the only country like this. Some oriental nations tend to favour men over women in the most prominent, leading roles insociety. Some European nations as well. It's a matter of cultural preference in some cases.

Duly noted. I do care about egalitarian values, and yes, IRan seems to operate statist quasi-police state, but that might've been necessary for the state's survival. Its always easy to criticize after all is said and done, but things might've also been alot worse if certain restrictions etc werent in place. Excess freedom seems to invite disorder also.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Hey lets discuss "Women's Rights" in the IRIAF News and Discussion section! I mean why not, right?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1457763963412877326

 

[Muhammed45]

Lahijan, Rasht

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[Hack-Hook]

Did acrojet team upgraded their airplanes

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Lahijan, Rasht

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These were said to be Russian Sukhois transiting through Iranian airspace on route to the U.A.E for the Dubai Air Show.

 

[Hack-Hook]

These were said to be Russian Sukhois transiting through Iranian airspace on route to the U.A.E for the Dubai Air Show.

many thing were said but protocol says they must be escorted by Iran airforce

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

many thing were said but protocol says they must be escorted by Iran airforce

You make a valid point. Either the IRIAF was unable /unwilling to conduct escort missions (like we had seen them doing when they were escorting Russian bombers conducting strikes in Syria) or those aircraft are not Russian.

 

[Darius77]

many thing were said but protocol says they must be escorted by Iran airforce

There no such protocol as there is a air space corridor agreement. Russians have been flying both military aircraft like TU-22M, SU-35 and transports across Iran quite regularly as well as their Kalibr missiles have overflown Iranian airspace to strike terrorist targets in Syria.

Iran has allowed Russian planes to use its airspace during recent operations in Syria, since 2016.

Russian aircraft for the first time used an Iranian air base in 2016 to conduct strikes in Syria. The Russian military said its fighters had completed their tasks, but left open the possibility of using the Hamadan base again if circumstances warranted.

Ali Shamkhani, secretary of Iran’s National Security Council, had back then told the semi-official news agency Fars: “Their (Russians’) use of Iran’s air space has continued because we have a fully strategic cooperation with Russia.”

“In the recent cases, Russian fighter planes have only used Iran’s airspace and have not had refueling operations,” Shamkhani added.