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pal any fighter jet has to be equipped with targeting pod for bombing mission unless it uses the EO/GPS guided bombs, even for f-15.we are not buying any new F-4 and if you want to replace F-4 with Su-30 go forward and do it . but don't forget Su-30 needs a separate targetting pod if it want to drop anything but Iron Bombs.
It was supposed to be equal to F-15 but it come short of it in every aspect .
at least go and invest on something like Su-27sm2 that is a lot more advance than the most advance Su-30 or go after Su-35 not Su-30 that was designed as and export version for Su-27 andbe assure Russia will never give us SU-30SM1 that is equipped with Su-35 radar and engine
if i'm not wrong Algeria signed a deal for su-34 so it's definitely is for sale.So, about strike missions, do you think we can buy su-34s from russia? those will do nicely alongside su30s and 35s.
we are not buying any new F-4 and if you want to replace F-4 with Su-30 go forward and do it . but don't forget Su-30 needs a separate targetting pod if it want to drop anything but Iron Bombs.
It was supposed to be equal to F-15 but it come short of it in every aspect .
at least go and invest on something like Su-27sm2 that is a lot more advance than the most advance Su-30 or go after Su-35 not Su-30 that was designed as and export version for Su-27 andbe assure Russia will never give us SU-30SM1 that is equipped with Su-35 radar and engine
which one??Why do "Iranian made" aircraft look like dinky toys? Seems apt for a one way "martyrdom mission" but not very useful otherwise. Does their ideology impinge on their ability to make rational design choices?
Do not compare Iran to banana countries like Egypt or Algeria (lol seriously Algeria?). Egypt’s Air Force is a joke first and foremost. Israel wiped out their entire air force in single day during war. That was when Egypt had the intelligence of a Chimp (Arab nationalism), now it has the intelligence of a rat (Saudi beggars).
So their Airforce should read “Nice toys please don’t touch”.
None of the countries airforce people mention here would last a day against Israel or US. Even Pakistan members on this forum giving “advice” to Iran need to wake up. Using a shoot down of a 40 year old Indian jet during a skirmish as evidence of the benefits of their airforce is not a valid example. As if Pakistan could survive 48 hours against the US airforce toe to toe. None of the countries will ever fight the US, thus they don’t have to worry about their toys and can stockpile them.
MY POINT: Iran unlike these other countries has a real chance of war against Israel or US (however unlikely) in the future. Thus if Iran can not guarantee the survival of it’s airbases in war time then what’s the point of buying a bunch of modern jets? As I mentioned earlier one needs to look at Egyptian airforce during Arab-Israeli war to see how fast an entire airforce can be destroyed.
If it doesn’t come with ToT then forget it. If it isn’t an interceptor then forget it.
Do not compare Iran to banana countries like Egypt or Algeria (lol seriously Algeria?). Egypt’s Air Force is a joke first and foremost. Israel wiped out their entire air force in single day during war. That was when Egypt had the intelligence of a Chimp (Arab nationalism), now it has the intelligence of a rat (Saudi beggars).
So their Airforce should read “Nice toys please don’t touch”.
None of the countries airforce people mention here would last a day against Israel or US. Even Pakistan members on this forum giving “advice” to Iran need to wake up. Using a shoot down of a 40 year old Indian jet during a skirmish as evidence of the benefits of their airforce is not a valid example. As if Pakistan could survive 48 hours against the US airforce toe to toe. None of the countries will ever fight the US, thus they don’t have to worry about their toys and can stockpile them.
MY POINT: Iran unlike these other countries has a real chance of war against Israel or US (however unlikely) in the future. Thus if Iran can not guarantee the survival of it’s airbases in war time then what’s the point of buying a bunch of modern jets? As I mentioned earlier one needs to look at Egyptian airforce during Arab-Israeli war to see how fast an entire airforce can be destroyed.
If it doesn’t come with ToT then forget it. If it isn’t an interceptor then forget it.
it already is, IRGCAF right now uses IRIAF airbase. I think this will continue if IRGC get New planes.IRIAF should be merged with IRGC-AF
New one, so su 30 or the photo of the aircraft available for years?...i forgot the name...Iranian Air Force Commander Says New Homegrown Aircraft to Be Unveiled
Brigadier General Mohammad Zalbeigi, the commander of Shahid Lashgari Airbase in Tehran, said the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF) is progressing with the same pace as other countries despite the sanctions.
“We have had considerable progress in designing various types of aircraft, thanks to the efforts of the IRIAF personnel and knowledge-based companies,” he said in an interview, Press TV reported.
“God willing, we will witness the designing and production of aircraft built at the IRIAF in the near future, he said, vowing that the new aircraft will be unveiled soon.
He referred to the Iranian-made fighter jet Kowsar as one of the examples of this progress.
“During the parade held last year everyone witnessed the flight of Kowsar aircraft. It is an up-to-date plane whose systems conform to the world's most advanced systems,” he noted.
In 2018, Iran launched the mass production of the fourth-generation all-indigenous interceptor jet in a major step toward the renovation of its Air Force.
The Kowsar fighter jet, which has been designed to provide logistical support for ground operations, boasts advanced maneuvering capability and can be fitted with various projectiles.
The aircraft enjoys integrated design, an avionic and fire control system linked with digital military data network, a ballistic calculations computer system, head-up display (HUD), which focuses visual data in front of the pilot’s sight, a multi-purpose radar, and an independent radio navigation system.
According to the Defense Ministry’s Public Relations Department, the production of each Kowsar jet would save the country around $16.5 million.
Iran has made major breakthroughs in its defense sector and attained self-sufficiency in producing military equipment and hardware despite facing US sanctions and Western economic pressure.
The Islamic Republic says its military power is solely for defensive purposes against enemy threats.
President Hassan Rouhani said last month that the Islamic Republic is closely watching and following the activity and movements of Americans in the region, but will never be the initiator of any tension and conflict.
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/...er-says-new-homegrown-aircraft-to-be-unveiled
New one, so su 30 or the photo of the aircraft available for years?...i forgot the name...
Even if they manage to unveil something par with jf17 or f16 its serves enough for years...in-between those time line new stealth one is most certain.It could potentially be the Shafaq project. Yes, it could also be the plane the mockup of which we have seen for years. Iran has talked about developing a "semi heavy" fighter in the past so that could be it. Of course, the possibility that it is a further upgrade to the Kowsar family can not be discarded. Iranian airforce is the "quite branch" of Iran. They seem to develop in relative silence without talking much regarding their plans. Who knows, perhaps they're far more ahead than we think they are. I will never underestimate the capability of any people that can manufacture a fighter jet from scratch. Whether it is an F-5 or not does not matter to me. Once you have demonstrated the industrial capability to build fighter jets, then you can naturally progress further in this very difficult field. The other question is, how far has Iran got with its engine projects? Ex defence minister Dehghan did say a heavier jet engine than Owj was being developed, but we have yet to hear anything from it.