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Apparently the Argentines are looking at the JF17. But they might be looking at other options as well (5 Apparently) and the request for money was just that A request.So wait,was the Argentina deal fake news or not? What's going on?
So wait,was the Argentina deal fake news or not? What's going on?
I can imagine Argentina buying the Gripen. But they could buy 12 JF-17s too!Apparently the Argentines are looking at the JF17. But they might be looking at other options as well (5 Apparently) and the request for money was just that A request.
"In a statement, Argentinian MoD said: “The Ministry of Defense informs that, by means of a Public Credit Operations Authorization note, it has requested the inclusion for the 2022 Budget of the authorisation to manage credit for up to $664m for the acquisition of multipurpose fighter aircraft, for the surveillance and control of the air space.
“Likewise, this ministry clarifies that it has not been issued regarding the purchase of supersonic aircraft of any origin and is in the technical-economic and financial evaluation stage of five alternatives.”
The JF-17 Thunder is a single-engine, lightweight, multipurpose combat aircraft that was developed jointly by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC) of China and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) of Pakistan.
The newest variant JF-17 Block-III features an electronically scanned radar and many advanced electronics.
According to sources, South Korean FA-50 aircraft, Swedish firm Saab’s Gripen multirole fighter jet and more are the other potential options"
I can imagine Argentina buying the Gripen. But they could buy 12 JF-17s too!
Apparently the Argentines are looking at the JF17. But they might be looking at other options as well (5 Apparently) and the request for money was just that A request.
"In a statement, Argentinian MoD said: “The Ministry of Defense informs that, by means of a Public Credit Operations Authorization note, it has requested the inclusion for the 2022 Budget of the authorisation to manage credit for up to $664m for the acquisition of multipurpose fighter aircraft, for the surveillance and control of the air space.
“Likewise, this ministry clarifies that it has not been issued regarding the purchase of supersonic aircraft of any origin and is in the technical-economic and financial evaluation stage of five alternatives.”
The JF-17 Thunder is a single-engine, lightweight, multipurpose combat aircraft that was developed jointly by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC) of China and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) of Pakistan.
The newest variant JF-17 Block-III features an electronically scanned radar and many advanced electronics.
According to sources, South Korean FA-50 aircraft, Swedish firm Saab’s Gripen multirole fighter jet and more are the other potential options"
The Gripen option was already "Shot down" so to speak back in 2015. The FA50 likewise in 2019. I am guessing the F16 and a Russian option are the others on the table. The Russian option will be too expensive (With probably higher maintenance costs) This is why I believe the F16 will be the likely winner. But if there are complications with the US then the JF17 will likely be the next option. But my money is on the US trying to keep Chinese influence to a minimum in South America with F16s. They have already sold blk 52s to Chile so it would not create any military imbalances in the region.I can imagine Argentina buying the Gripen. But they could buy 12 JF-17s too!
The Gripen and FA50 have already been "Shot down" so to speak but you have forgotten about the USA and the Russians. The Americans will not let Argentina slide into the Chinese camp without at least trying to do something. The Argentine airforce has always prefer Western equipment (Or compatible) hence their trying to get the Gripen and FA50. The Russians ask too much and their aircraft are all twin engine which equate to higher maintenance costs.Doubt that 12 jas-39 or f-50 would cost 664 mil and f-50 already issued with British components which is also case for grippen where bae is partner anyway Argentinas, Chinese and pak can work it out it’s no one business except the buyer ans seller
Cost might be an issue. They certainly wont get Bl 52 with weaponry for 600 odd million dollars. PAF with established infrastructure was getting 8 bl.52s for 800 odd million dollars. Establishment of infrastructure for the Argentinians will be more expensive. However refurbished Bl.52s may be a possibility but infrastructure will still have to be set up which might hike up the cost.The Gripen and FA50 have already been "Shot down" so to speak but you have forgotten about the USA and the Russians. The Americans will not let Argentina slide into the Chinese camp without at least trying to do something. The Argentine airforce has always prefer Western equipment (Or compatible) hence their trying to get the Gripen and FA50. The Russians ask too much and their aircraft are all twin engine which equate to higher maintenance costs.
There is nothing US can do to stop Argentina from embracing China.The Gripen and FA50 have already been "Shot down" so to speak but you have forgotten about the USA and the Russians. The Americans will not let Argentina slide into the Chinese camp without at least trying to do something. The Argentine airforce has always prefer Western equipment (Or compatible) hence their trying to get the Gripen and FA50. The Russians ask too much and their aircraft are all twin engine which equate to higher maintenance costs.
Of cos Argentina never purchase JF-17 from Pakistan. They directly deal with China. This kind of statement is to avoid backlash for Pakistan with regards to concern by UK.
The F16 has been offered before and only rejected because of the airframe life. The cost might be lower if they give the F16s as EDA and only charge for the upgrades. It cost Pakistan 1.3 Billion for 60 upgrade kits ,so roughly 260 million for 12 airframes. The rest could easily go to UP/STAR upgrades/ muntions and Airfield upgrades.Cost might be an issue. They certainly wont get Bl 52 with weaponry for 600 odd million dollars. PAF with established infrastructure was getting 8 bl.52s for 800 odd million dollars. Establishment of infrastructure for the Argentinians will be more expensive. However refurbished Bl.52s may be a possibility but infrastructure will still have to be set up which might hike up the cost.
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You need to read more about Argentine history and their dislike of Communists. The US will do what they need to to keep their interests safe. The AUKUS pact shows that. The risk to the Falklands from 12 aircraft is very low and the Argentine armed forces are a complete mess. The UK (is Part of AUKUS BTW) will balance the risk of letting the Argentines have a few planes and letting China in the door. 12 F16's will not make that much of difference and won't break UK-US relations.There is nothing US can do to stop Argentina from embracing China.
Argentina vs UK, which US prefer as strategic partner? US sells weapon to Argentina will be a betrayal to UK and weaken UK stand in continue as the AUKUS. Even really US sells weapon to Argentina ,will Argentina even willing to buy given US most likely will side with UK by jamming the weapon sold to them or given out source code or delay logistic in case of an Argentina vs UK conflict.
If I am Argentina, it will be no brainer to take Chinese weapon as it can ensure continue support in case of embargo from UK. There is no point taking a sophisticated weapon which they cant use on UK. It is as good as throwing away the money.
Of cos Argentina never purchase JF-17 from Pakistan. They directly deal with China. This kind of statement is to avoid backlash for Pakistan with regards to concern by UK.