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from our 2600 years exprience with the western , we should know that they only respect "power" and "threat" ...
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This completely explains why the Europeans and the Americans insisted on Iran using only IR-1 centrifuges in the JCPOA. They had plans for this day since then! (as revealed by the Israeli officials)First gen IR-1 couldn’t shutdown properly so when power was cut most were destroyed. New gen and IR-2 and above can enter proper shutdown and save the centrifuge in the event of little or zero power.
what your thought about Zarif statement about " wanting to negotiate" right after recent sabotage operation ?This completely explains why the Europeans and the Americans insisted on Iran using only IR-1 centrifuges in the JCPOA. They had plans for this day since then! (as revealed by the Israeli officials)
Not that I necessarily agree with her though. As far as I knew, Iran had 5060 IR-1 centrifuges at Natanz FEP.
after end of Rouhani and Reformers ( suckers ) government in coming month , we will have more control on things ...So what is stopping the Israelis from doing the same at Fordow? They seem to flow around Iran freely.
I have made my opinion about him clear before. I don't like the guy, so my opinion is obviously biased, but I think Zarif is too soft for a diplomat. All he has learned from diplomacy is grinning like a fool. But then you can't put all the blame on him. It's not like he is free to do whatever he wants. I personally blame Rouhani for all this, and after him, I blame Khamenei. Zarif comes third in my opinion.what your thought about Zarif statement about " wanting to negotiate" right after recent sabotage operation ?
I have made my opinion about him clear before. I don't like the guy, so my opinion is obviously biased, but I think Zarif is too soft for a diplomat. All he has learned from diplomacy is grinning like a full. But then you can't put all the blame on him. It's not like he is free to do whatever he wants. I personally blame Rouhani for all this, and after him, I blame Khamenei. Zarif comes third in my opinion.
The rest of the negotiating team had to intervene and tell him to negotiate with the world powers over a maximum enrichment capacity in terms of separative work unit (SWU) instead of what type of centrifuges we should use. Or at least they should've told him that the IR-1 centrifuges were poorly designed and couldn't tolerate power outage. The fact that the IR-1 centrifuges hadn't been replaced with newer designs even when we could already mass-produce IR-2 and IR-2m shows nothing but absolute incompetence and stupidity.
What do you expect from a negotiating team that one of them has been proven to be a spy in an official court?
If Patarames is right and newer designs like IR-2 and IR-2m are resistant to a sudden power outage, the highest priority for the Iranian Atomic Agency at this moment should be to replace all those IR-1 machines with other machines, both at Natanz and Fordow.
Well, I am not sure about what I'm about to say, but doesn't Natanz have two halls in total? Unless they have built new halls, then I think Natanz has two huge halls for enrichment.my brother the i highly advise you don't quoting an Iranian Ordinary people sources,
all I say you to wait week , just a week not more ,
it will become clear to you that this Natanz sabotage want not significant in sence of damged centerfuges,
my brother uses your common sense,,
you are tell us then there was 4000 IR-1 centrifuges which here spinning at same time on night of sabotage simultaneously ?? all 4000 were turned on ?
and ++++++++ you are saying that there was 4000 IR-1 instaned in one hall ?? because only the PSU power to one of hall was cut off , so .......................
you see what i am talking about
No 6 hall if you considering storage rooms which are very big in size 7 hallsWell, I am not sure about what I'm about to say, but doesn't Natanz have two halls in total?
Khamenei kneels to the will of his people bro. Remove him from your Black listI have made my opinion about him clear before. I don't like the guy, so my opinion is obviously biased, but I think Zarif is too soft for a diplomat. All he has learned from diplomacy is grinning like a full. But then you can't put all the blame on him. It's not like he is free to do whatever he wants. I personally blame Rouhani for all this, and after him, I blame Khamenei. Zarif comes third in my opinion.
The rest of the negotiating team had to intervene and tell him to negotiate with the world powers over a maximum enrichment capacity in terms of separative work unit (SWU) instead of what type of centrifuges we should use. Or at least they should've told him that the IR-1 centrifuges were poorly designed and couldn't tolerate power outage. The fact that the IR-1 centrifuges hadn't been replaced with newer designs even when we could already mass-produce IR-2 and IR-2m shows nothing but absolute incompetence and stupidity.
What do you expect from a negotiating team that one of them has been proven to be a spy in an official court?
If Patarames is right and newer designs like IR-2 and IR-2m are resistant to a sudden power outage, the highest priority for the Iranian Atomic Agency at this moment should be to replace all those IR-1 machines with other machines, both at Natanz and Fordow.
Before JCPOA iran had 20,000 IR-1We know that Iran was operating 5060 IR-1
Khamenei is the commander-in chief of all armed forces. He takes the ultimate decisions. He is responsible for the current fiasco. This ''Barzakh hasteyi'' is doing us no good.. na bombi misazan va na be darde mellat khorde ta alan in barname hasteyi. Nothing against Khamenei personally but i believe he should at this point make it clear that enough is enough and push for the bomb and renounce any fatwa (if it has ever been issued).Khamenei kneels to the will of his people bro. Remove him from your Black list
Rouhani is Fruit of our casted votes. In fact he represents most of us at the moment. And Khamenei is not a dictator to intervene in every shit that the government commits.
Once upon a time our top negotiator was Said Jalili. We mocked him for leaving the negotiating table for prayers. We mocked him when he took out his artificial leg then put it on the table replying to Western top negotiators who threatened him and his country, "what else could you take from me?" He was a war veteran and a true patriot and we mocked him for resisting against the avarice of western negotiators. Hey he is a fkin warmonger.
So please stop blaming our leader for everything that happens to our nuclear program. Remember the past and please Remember the will of people.
Well, I have never voted in the Islamic Republic. And I hated Rouhani from the very beginning. I always told people that he would turn out to be much worse than Ahmadinejad and he would ruin the economy. I always detested the guy for his two-faced idiotic comments. And more than him, I hated and continue to hate Eshagh Damagh.Khamenei kneels to the will of his people bro. Remove him from your Black list
Rouhani is Fruit of our casted votes. In fact he represents most of us at the moment. And Khamenei is not a dictator to intervene in every shit that the government commits.
Once upon a time our top negotiator was Said Jalili. We mocked him for leaving the negotiating table for prayers. We mocked him when he took out his artificial leg then put it on the table replying to Western top negotiators who threatened him and his country, "what else could you take from me?" He was a war veteran and a true patriot and we mocked him for resisting against the avarice of western negotiators. Hey he is a fkin warmonger.
So please stop blaming our leader for everything that happens to our nuclear program. Remember the past and please Remember the will of people.
Yeah. We had 19,000 IR-1 centrifuges though. But if I'm not mistaken, some of those centrifuges were used to replace damaged centrifuges after Stuxnet and some of them were destroyed in the last year explosion at the ICAC. We still have over 10,000 IR-1 centrifuges in storage I think. But as I said, I believe that our priority should be to completely replace IR-1 centrifuges with newer models that are resistant to sudden power outage.Before JCPOA iran had 20,000 IR-1
so there is 15,000 IR-1 in storage room ready to put on so ............
you see all of these calculation is wrong
the last sabetage was attack on Centrifuge assembly factory above ground and had nothing to do with IR-1some of them were destroyed in the last year explosion at the ICAC.