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Iran nukes could stabilize region

Iran nukes could stabilize region | Pacific Daily News | guampdn.com

By: Kenneth Waltz

The past several months have witnessed a heated debate over the best way for America and Israel to respond to Iran's nuclear activities. Although the U.S., the European Union and Iran have recently returned to the negotiating table, a palpable sense of crisis still looms.

It should not. In fact, a nuclear-armed Iran would probably be the best possible result of the standoff and the one most likely to restore stability to the Middle East.

The crisis over Iran's nuclear program could end in three ways. First, diplomacy coupled with sanctions could persuade Iran to abandon pursuit of a nuclear weapon. But that's unlikely: The historical record indicates that a country bent on acquiring nuclear weapons can rarely be dissuaded. Take North Korea, which succeeded in building its weapons despite countless rounds of sanctions and U.N. Security Council resolutions. If Tehran decides that its security depends on possessing nuclear weapons, sanctions are unlikely to change its mind.

The second possible outcome is that Iran stops short of testing a nuclear weapon but develops a breakout capability, the capacity to build and test one quite quickly. Such a capability might satisfy the domestic political needs of Iran's rulers by assuring hard-liners that they can enjoy all the benefits of having a bomb (such as greater security) without the downsides (such as international isolation and condemnation).

Reconsider Israel

Israel, however, has made it clear that it views a significant Iranian enrichment capacity alone as an unacceptable threat. It would likely continue its risky efforts at subverting Iran's nuclear program through sabotage and assassination -- which could lead Iran to conclude that a breakout capability is an insufficient deterrent, after all, and that only weaponization can provide it with the security it seeks.

The third possible outcome of the standoff is that Iran continues its course and publicly goes nuclear by testing a weapon. U.S. and Israeli officials have declared that outcome unacceptable, arguing that a nuclear Iran is an existential threat to Israel. Such language is typical of major powers, which have historically gotten riled up whenever another country begins to develop a nuclear weapon. Yet every time another country has managed to shoulder its way into the nuclear club, the other members have always changed tack and decided to live with it. In fact, by reducing imbalances in military power, new nuclear states generally produce more regional and international stability, not less.

Israel's regional nuclear monopoly, which has proved remarkably durable for more than four decades, has long fueled instability in the Middle East. In no other region of the world does a lone, unchecked nuclear state exist. It is Israel's nuclear arsenal, not Iran's desire for one, that has contributed most to the crisis. Power, after all, begs to be balanced.

The danger of a nuclear Iran has been grossly exaggerated due to fundamental misunderstandings of how states generally behave in the international system.

One prominent concern is that the Iranian regime is inherently irrational. Portraying Iran that way has allowed U.S. and Israeli officials to argue that the logic of nuclear deterrence does not apply. If Iran acquired a nuclear weapon, they warn, it would not hesitate to launch a first strike against Israel, though it would risk an overwhelming response destroying everything the Islamic Republic holds dear.

Although it is impossible to be certain of Iranian intentions, it is far more likely that if Iran desires nuclear weapons, it is for the purpose of enhancing its own security, not to improve its offensive capabilities. Iran could be intransigent when negotiating and defiant in the face of sanctions, but it still acts to secure its own preservation.

Nevertheless, even some observers and policymakers who accept that the Iranian regime is rational still worry that a nuclear weapon would embolden it, providing Tehran with a shield that would allow it to act more aggressively and increase its support for terrorism. The problem with these concerns is that they contradict the record of almost every other nuclear weapons state dating to 1945. History shows that when countries acquire the bomb, they feel increasingly vulnerable and become acutely aware that their nuclear weapons make them a potential target in the eyes of major powers. This awareness discourages nuclear states from bold and aggressive action. Maoist China, for example, became much less bellicose after acquiring nuclear weapons in 1964, and India and Pakistan have both become more cautious since going nuclear.

Drop the sanctions

Another oft-touted worry is that if Iran obtains the bomb, other states in the region will follow suit, leading to a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. But the nuclear age is now almost 70 years old, and fears of proliferation have proved to be unfounded. When Israel acquired the bomb in the 1960s, it was at war with many of its neighbors. If an atomic Israel did not trigger an arms race then, there is no reason a nuclear Iran should now.

For these reasons, the U.S. and its allies need not take such pains to prevent the Iranians from developing a nuclear weapon. Diplomacy should continue because open lines of communication will make the Western countries feel better able to live with a nuclear Iran. But the sanctions on Iran can be dropped: They primarily harm ordinary Iranians, with little purpose.

Most important, policymakers and citizens worldwide should take comfort from the fact that where nuclear capabilities have emerged, so, too, has stability. When it comes to nuclear weapons, now as ever, more could be better.

Kenneth Waltz is senior research scholar at the Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies. This is a condensed version of an article that will appear in the July-August issue of Foreign Affairs.
 
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They might. One thing I say that goes against public policy, let Iran have nukes, show them the consequences of irresponsible use. I think it just might help stabilise the region, and counter-intuitivily, integrate Iran into a responsibble stewardship of the region. (once you have a vested interest in stability, you fall in line with the world view.) Iran now is like a teen-ager, learning to say "no". In time, they will want a stable area as much as anyone. (When they reach a certain level of affluence, perhaps this is why their enemies try to keep them radical))
 
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They might. One thing I say that goes against public policy, let Iran have nukes, show them the consequences of irresponsible use. I think it just might help stabilise the region, and counter-intuitivily, integrate Iran into a responsibble stewardship of the region. (once you have a vested interest in stability, you fall in line with the world view.) Iran now is like a teen-ager, learning to say "no". In time, they will want a stable area as much as anyone. (When they reach a certain level of affluence, perhaps this is why their enemies try to keep them radical))

Actually Iran is a stabilizing force already. It is US that comes in creates Taliban and Alqaida, supports Saddam and supports all kind of dictatorships in the region and then goes on a war with Taliban, Alqaida and Saddam. Iran is happy within its borders and do not need to seal oil in order to run its economy. A nuclear armed Iran is definitely a plus for the region and would make middle east more peaceful since it would balance out the unilateral wars initiated by US and Israel. It is good to have a nuclear Iran which can cool things down in the region.
 
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^^ if KSA nukes are aimed at israel and not Iran we would be more than happy
 
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If people think I am against Iranian nukes you will be mistaken. Nothing would make me happier than a Nuclear Iran followed few weeks later by a Nuclear KSA.
no one doesnt care what you think.
having atom bomb is haram andar haram.may one day see the world without any nuclear bomb.
 
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If people think I am against Iranian nukes you will be mistaken. Nothing would make me happier than a Nuclear Iran followed few weeks later by a Nuclear KSA.

Your feelings are commendable but I did not know KSA has a nuclear program. The last time I checked KSA did not have even a single reactor and no nuclear installation whatsoever. Even nuclear engineering is not yet taught in KSA universities since there would be no jobs afterwards. So few weeks is a bit rhetorical. I would say afew decades. Realistically maybe even more, that is if they try hard and put everything on the line, including regime stability and all round sanctions.
 
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If people think I am against Iranian nukes you will be mistaken. Nothing would make me happier than a Nuclear Iran followed few weeks later by a Nuclear KSA.
Without any human and scientific resources and any indigenous basic nuclear science,without help of Pakistan,US and others,making nukes for KSA is like flying for an elephant.
 
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Your feelings are commendable but I did not know KSA has a nuclear program. The last time I checked KSA did not have even a single reactor and no nuclear installation whatsoever. Even nuclear engineering is not yet taught in KSA universities since there would be no jobs afterwards. So few weeks is a bit rhetorical. I would say afew decades. Realistically maybe even more, that is if they try hard and put everything on the line, including regime stability and all round sanctions.

KSA started a nuclear program back in the late 1970s. And Osirak was part of it.

By the way did you know that this whole Israeli "We are going to bomb the nuclear reactors" drivel was done to us as well for a couple of years.
Reagan Urges Israeli Restraint on Saudi Missiles - NYTimes.com

Al-Sulayyil underground base is still the biggest mystery in Middle Eastern Geopolitics today. Even during the Gulf war RSAF and RSAD personnel were ordered to shoot down even American jets flying over the underground bases.

So in general unlike Iran we have enough regime stability we do not need to sing these things to the world.

Without any human and scientific resources and any indigenous basic nuclear science,without help of Pakistan,US and others,making nukes for KSA is like flying for an elephant.
It is amazing how greatly you lot underestimate KSA's scientific and human resources capabilities.

Oh and to those who say that those only house outdated Chinese missiles then explain to me why 3 more underground bases were built from 2001-2005?? I guess somethings are just better kept hush hush.
 
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KSA started a nuclear program back in the late 1970s. And Osirak was part of it.

By the way did you know that this whole Israeli "We are going to bomb the nuclear reactors" drivel was done to us as well for a couple of years.
Reagan Urges Israeli Restraint on Saudi Missiles - NYTimes.com

Al-Sulayyil underground base is still the biggest mystery in Middle Eastern Geopolitics today. Even during the Gulf war RSAF and RSAD personnel were ordered to shoot down even American jets flying over the underground bases.

So in general unlike Iran we have enough regime stability we do not need to sing these things to the world.


It is amazing how greatly you lot underestimate KSA's scientific and human resources capabilities.

Oh and to those who say that those only house outdated Chinese missiles then explain to me why 3 more underground bases were built from 2001-2005?? I guess somethings are just better kept hush hush.

Osirak was in Iraq and was bombed. There is no nuclear reactor, enrichment plant, reprocessing plant etc in KSA.

Al-Sulayyil used to house a few downgraded old and inaccurate DF-3 Chinese missiles which KSA had bought in 1980's and these missiles are all now past due their expiry dates. They are now junk and stand useless even if they have been kept in best of environment. Missiles have frame life and beyond that a missile is dead. KSA now even can not buy any more missiles since international missile ban treaty prohibits the sale and transfer of technology for missiles with more than 300 Km range. So there is no mystery. It is just an old grave yard site for some inoperable old rusty missiles.
 
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Oh and by the way KSA has five force pillars in the military not four. But we generally keep tue fifth not a public one.

1- Saudi Land Force (RSLF) 150,000 + 50,00 reserves
2- Saudi Air Force (RSAF) 32,000
3- Saudi Naval Force (RSNF) 40,000 including 10,000 Marines.
4- Saudi Air-Defense Force (RSAD) 25,000 .
5- Saudi Strategic Missile Force (RSSMF) 22,000

You do the math.
 
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Oh and by the way KSA has five force pillars in the military not four. But we generally keep tue fifth not a public one.

1- Saudi Land Force (RSLF) 150,000 + 50,00 reserves
2- Saudi Air Force (RSAF) 32,000
3- Saudi Naval Force (RSNF) 40,000 including 10,000 Marines.
4- Saudi Air-Defense Force (RSAD) 25,000 .
5- Saudi Strategic Missile Force (RSSMF) 22,000

You do the math.

Good for you. So next time when Iraqis come at your border, do not beg Americans to come and save you. Use your five "pillars" instead of female American marines.
 
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Funny how Iranian nuclear program started in the 70's and they still can't develop one bomb.
Saudi Arabia already has (2-6) bombs either stored in Pakistan or in Saudi. That's based on western intelligence, google it. If we decided to build our own indengous bomb it would take us a few years not 4 decades+.
The only thing holding us back is a political decision from the king.
Unlike Iran, we are not coy and don't dance around the subject.
Our government officials publicly said that an Iranian bomb means a Saudi bomb. and that is taken seriously because its the main reason why an Iranian bomb is so much feared by America & Israel, because it will trigger a nuclear race in ME, not because they think Iran will nuke Israel BS joke.
 
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