Iran helps Venezuela in its time of need

[Raghfarm007]

Go explain to an Iranian who lives in the periphery of the country, who has seen little to none government investment, that he does not have the right to vote simply because he does not have a PhD in international affairs. Or any other Iranian whose life is significantly impacted by the policies of the central state, which he ironically contributes to by paying taxes, that he can´t have any democratic input because he is too dumb to vote. Such elitist arrogance will bring nothing more than instability, and most people will resist such state.

So.... almost every thing you wrote is ignorant:

1. You dont need a phd to undrestand thing. You just need to have an interest in learning.
2. People in Iran hardly pay any taxes... those living in the prephery of the country generally not only dont pay tax, but will take a lot of money in the form of subsedies.
3. To say that you have to be informed to vote is not elitist, it is logical.
4. Democratic systems only plan for the short term, as the governments stay in power for a few years.

If you had to fix your car, would you take it to an expert mechanic to repair it, or would you gather all of your neighbours and ask them to vote on how to repair your car?

Democracy by the ignorant masses has always lead to disastor... idiots will always vote for a Trump or Hitler, because they like sweet lies.

 

[Sina-1]

Go explain to an Iranian who lives in the periphery of the country, who has seen little to none government investment, that he does not have the right to vote simply because he does not have a PhD in international affairs. Or any other Iranian whose life is significantly impacted by the policies of the central state, which he ironically contributes to by paying taxes, that he can´t have any democratic input because he is too dumb to vote. Such elitist arrogance will bring nothing more than instability, and most people will resist such state.

The vote of masses is literally bought with oranges, food and lies today. How is that any better?

 

[Shawnee]

لطفا در چیل ترد این بحثو بکنین عزیزان‌
ما هنوز در کیف تانکر هاییم توی این ترد

 

[Arminkh]

IMO not every dumb idiot should be able to vote. Given free education paired with co-op experience, it should be minimum requirement for the voter to pass a test before voting. This this should consist of:

1. High level overview of international affairs covering the last century

2. High level overview of internal politics at federal and/or state/province (for the past 4 elections)

3. Environment policies

4. Healthcare policies

5. Past and current political discourse and challenges

I would also embed mandatory critical thinking, science, political science, history and cost benefit analysis courses in the education system. This world needs smart people, the global IQ is dropping and it needs to be reversed.

Instead of restrictions, a much better approach is to empower your population by proper education. That was the case in US after their independence until maybe 5-6 decades ago. Unfortunately starting in 60s, the overall view of the society towards education changed. Nowadays, being educated is no longer a value. Just be happy and do what makes you happy! Which is the same attitude of children of rich people. Result is, they probably are happier however, they will start to lose their achievements to new emerging powers and in a century or two they are no longer who they used to be.

Unfortunately, I hear some Iranians criticize Iran's educational system and point to countries like US and say why do they fill our brains with information like history, social science, ecology, chemistry and etc.? Well the answer is because you will learn to look at issues with a broader view.

 

[arashkamangir]

Instead of restrictions, a much better approach is to empower your population by proper education. That was the case in US after their independence until maybe 5-6 decades ago. Unfortunately starting in 60s, the overall view of the society towards education changed. Nowadays, being educated is no longer a value. Just be happy and do what makes you happy! Which is the same attitude of children of rich people. Result is, they probably are happier however, they will start to lose their achievements to new emerging powers and in a century or two they are no longer who they used to be.

Unfortunately, I hear some Iranians criticize Iran's educational system and point to countries like US and say why do they fill our brains with information like history, social science, ecology, chemistry and etc.? Well the answer is because you will learn to look at issues with a broader view.

That was my point as well. I said, provided free education: "Given free education paired with co-op experience, it should be minimum requirement for the voter to pass a test before voting"

 

[Kiarash]

 

[arashkamangir]

Does anyone know what would be the legal ramification of arming these vessels to the teeth? I am just curious.

 

[Shawnee]

Does anyone know what would be the legal ramification of arming these vessels to the teeth? I am just curious.

Civilian ships can have limited armed advisory to defend themselves. Not large missiles. Otherwise they have to declare it.

Civilian ships near Somalia have armed advisory. Persian gulf ships are discouraged to carry armed advisory because it would rather hurt them.

We can also decide to have armed advisory.

https://www.ukpandi.com/fileadmin/uploads/uk-pi/Documents/Piracy/privatearmedguardsflagstateregs.pdf

 

[Sineva]

That was my point as well. I said, provided free education: "Given free education paired with co-op experience, it should be minimum requirement for the voter to pass a test before voting"

Also that candidates should have to pass certain tests,ie psychological[no psychopaths,sociopaths,people with personality disorders or mental illness] and demonstrate a certain level of educational ability and or familiarity with politics,political theory,history of politics both at a national and international level etc.. ,before being admitted to the ballot.After all you wouldnt let just anyone become a policeman,a neurosurgeon or an airline pilot,so why would you let just anyone run for political office?,worst case scenario you could wind up with a hitler or a trump,or even just a george jr or a ronny reagan......NOT GOOD political outcomes.

 

[Kastor]

So.... almost every thing you wrote is ignorant:

1. You dont need a phd to undrestand thing. You just need to have an interest in learning.
2. People in Iran hardly pay any taxes... those living in the prephery of the country generally not only dont pay tax, but will take a lot of money in the form of subsedies.
3. To say that you have to be informed to vote is not elitist, it is logical.
4. Democratic systems only plan for the short term, as the governments stay in power for a few years.

If you had to fix your car, would you take it to an expert mechanic to repair it, or would you gather all of your neighbours and ask them to vote on how to repair your car?

Democracy by the ignorant masses has always lead to disastor... idiots will always vote for a Trump or Hitler, because they like sweet lies.

This is a ridiculous argument...the tenant of democracy is a government voted in by the people, people of all classes, not just the intellectuals or elites. So it's been since the emergence of democracy. In fact that's what sets apart from the other systems. You have to either educate the voters or make it hard for lies and propaganda infiltrate your country's politics. But restricting voting is no different from the system we revolted against in 1979. It was elites controlling the levers of government. Only one road will lead to democracy, one person, one vote.

 

[arashkamangir]

This is a ridiculous argument...the tenant of democracy is a government voted in by the people, people of all classes, not just the intellectuals or elites. So it's been since the emergence of democracy. In fact that's what sets apart from the other systems. You have to either educate the voters or make it hard for lies and propaganda infiltrate your country's politics. But restricting voting is no different from the system we revolted against in 1979. It was elites controlling the levers of government. Only one road will lead to democracy, one person, one vote.

I personally was not implying requiring degree to vote but placing mandatory requirement to pass test. The path to pass the test would also be provided as part of public education, community classes and etc... The point to is ensure people have deeper understanding of issues before voting and are trained in critical thinking as well as analysis.

 

[Shawnee]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1265081816106577927

 

[Raghfarm007]

This is a ridiculous argument...the tenant of democracy is a government voted in by the people, people of all classes, not just the intellectuals or elites. So it's been since the emergence of democracy. In fact that's what sets apart from the other systems. You have to either educate the voters or make it hard for lies and propaganda infiltrate your country's politics. But restricting voting is no different from the system we revolted against in 1979. It was elites controlling the levers of government. Only one road will lead to democracy, one person, one vote.

Where do you get these "tenents of democracy" from?
The ancient Athenians simply drew names out of a hat and thats how they got elected. The Americans had it in law that only white christian males who owned land can vote...
Today in America, if you dont have an address or have a ciminal record, you cant vote..... so the idea of one man one vote has ever been prcticed.

Democracy in its current form is so dumb that no one will ever prctice it in their every day lives...for example, if you fall ill, you dont gather everyone you know together and get them to vote on how to get cured..... you go to a doctor.....you can also get a number of medical experts together and get them to vote on what cure you should have. This make good sense and this is what I think a successful democratic system should be like.
This has nothing to do with ellitism... you can have educated people who are clueless about foreign affairs and economics, and at the same time you can have uneducated people who undrestand politics and economics.....the important thing is that if you are uninformed about something, you shouldnt be allowed to make a decision on it, especially if that decision affects other people´s lives.... whether it is medical issues or governmental issues.

 

[Sina-1]

the important thing is that if you are uninformed about something, you shouldnt be allowed to make a decision on it, especially if that decision affects other people´s lives.... whether it is medical issues or governmental issues.

Gol gofti dadash

 

[Salmanov]

Oh my God. That was funny!


I'm sure Iranians can put the refinery back to operation in no time.


We are not trying to buy or steal their oil. We are helping them stand in their feet.

US used to have similar approach to independent countries back in the days it was still revolutionary. It helped Iran a lot back in late 1800s to stand up against UK bullies: look up Morgan Shuster. He still has a special place in Iranians' hearts. Sad to see US has become what it once denounced.

Yes but later they became imperialist scumbags