Iran Has Bought Russia’s Most Advanced Fighter Aircraft

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

By Yemen government do you mean the one that recently come to office in Sana'a or the one that failed to held an election and refused to step down as its term ended ?

the one that was elected by the people but opposition throw it by using force.

 

[Hack-Hook]

the one that was elected by the people but opposition throw it by using force.

The one that was supposed to held and elections for new president and decide to stay in office for life.
He was an interim president not president but he decide to become another dictator for life excuse me I meant president .

 

[Malik Alashter]

Su-30 is capable of striking Israel and half of Israel Officials are Russian origin .... so its logical that Russians aren't interested to selling an long range offensive 4+ fighter to Iran ( and Iran want to License produce it in Iran as well ) ...
in other Hand , Mig 29 / Mig 35 has much limited range and Mig company is dying ...

the deal have two side , Iran and Russia .... Iran is limited to Russia and China so we don't have enough space to maneuver in this negotiation ... Russia knew this as well ....

If there are 2 tores in an area they cant push me to by what ever they want.

If I cant get what I want then it better to keep my cash.

 

[BlueInGreen]

So, has anything productive come out of this thread or did it devolve into a dick measuring contest?

 

[Fafnir]

What happened to the USSR and SA are completely inapplicable with today's nuclear states apart from DPRK.

Really?,If I`d have said to you in 1985 that not only the soviet bloc but that the soviet union itself would be just a memory in another 6 more years I would`ve been literally laughed out of the room and rightly so,it would`ve been as absurd as saying the united states would be gone in 6 years,you see thats the beauty of reality because it really does have the ability to be stranger than fiction.As for the dprk both clinton and bush jr were sure it was going to collapse in the 90s and yet both of them are consigned to the history books while the kim dynasty is still going strong,indeed by the standards of the dprk things have improved greatly both economically and militarily since the dark days of the mid 90s.I`ll say it again nuclear weapons dont provide some sort of magical guarantee of national or regime survival.

 

[OldTwilight]

If there are 2 tores in an area they cant push me to by what ever they want.

If I cant get what I want then it better to keep my cash.

That doesn't work when you don't have an air force !!!

 

[Malik Alashter]

That doesn't work when you don't have an air force !!!

An air Force of junk doesn't help either its even a big waste of money and effort.

 

[OldTwilight]

An air Force of junk doesn't help either its even a big waste of money and effort.

Well , IMO Mig 29 k / Mig 35 aren't junk ....

 

[Malik Alashter]

Well , IMO Mig 29 k / Mig 35 aren't junk ....

No they are not especially the MIG-35.

But I think you are going for the SU-30sm.

 

[OldTwilight]

No they are not especially the MIG-35.

But I think you are going for the SU-30sm.

The deal have two side ... for sure Su30 are more suited for Iran but ... As an Iranian , I like to buy product license of PAK-FA or at least Su-47 , but You can't get all you want ...

 

[Star Expedition]

The one that was supposed to held and elections for new president and decide to stay in office for life.
He was an interim president not president but he decide to become another dictator for life excuse me I meant president .

Yemen people has right to choose a leader they can trust.
nowthat the normal way can't work out, then they can use another way.
It's totally their internal affairs.

 

[VEVAK]

The deal have two side ... for sure Su30 are more suited for Iran but ... As an Iranian , I like to buy product license of PAK-FA or at least Su-47 , but You can't get all you want ...

Iran will be under a weapons embargo for another 5 years! And Trump will no doubt veto any Sale of Fighter Jets to Iran!

Russia at the end of the day will do what's in the interest of Russia! And with Trump coming into office the Russians will 1st and foremost look towards doing business in the U.S. long before they risk angering their new friend in the white house over $10 Billion USD from Iran.
Yes they may throw Iran a bone & give us a few new Artillery Systems, a few Tanks & some Helo's but nothing that would truly anger Washington.

Iran needs to go to China & Russia for license production & full tech transfer of one of their more advanced Turbofan Engines to be used in the development of a large 2 engine Iranian Fighter Jet. The Russian's may not agree but the Chinese for the right price regardless of the few flaws of their engines may be our best option under Trump.

Unfortunately, Iran is going down the wrong path! Iran needs to start an advanced fighter program and to do that we need to:

1.Completely trash this deluded idea of building a single engine fighter. If the IRIAF thinks the J-10 is not a viable fighter then we need to STOP trying to build single engine fighter.

2.Regardless of the cost Iran needs to put all it's capability towards the development of a twin engine 5th generation Airframe built around Russian or Chinese engines if possible if not, Iranian built J-79's, equipped with an internal weapons bay, little to no vertical surfaces, capable of Air refueling, a minimum titanium requirement of 40,000lb per airframe...

3. Use as many parts that are already available in Iran! Iranian built upgraded version of the AWG-9 (If Iran simply increases the AWG-9 processing power, upgrades the antenna & upgrades the software, that radar will be a beast!!) Use F-14 Landing Gears, Chaff & flair dispenser....

4.Airframe should be equipped with a passive IRST if we can't yet build a viable passive IRST then we can take the ABSAR imaging radar & we use that for now until we perfect a viable IRST in it's place!

5.A built in powerful laser range finder that could potentially be used to blind out enemy IRST & IR Missiles on top of targeting and altitude control.

And every single thing I have mentioned is without exception within Iran's capability to do! And if funded properly Iran can hands down start production at a rate of 20 per year within the next 5 years.

And to reduce time I would take the specs of the F-22 airframe & increase it by 5-6% with minor changes to allow for the incorporation of parts already in use in Iran!

 

[AmirPatriot]

5 years

Slightly less than 4 years now.

 

[VEVAK]

Slightly less than 4 years now.

2022 for Fighter Jets

 

[AmirPatriot]

2022 for Fighter Jets

How do you figure that out?

How long will the restrictions on arms-related transfers apply?
These restrictions on arms-related transfers shall apply until the date five years after the JCPOA Adoption Day (18 October 2015) or until the date on which the IAEA submits a report confirming the Broader Conclusion, whichever is earlier.

http://www.un.org/en/sc/2231/restrictions-arms.shtml