Iran engages in provocation with UAE: Guards chief visits disputed Gulf lnd

[Secur]

I clearly struck a nerve!

Nah you didn't , I was just astonished at the hatred that seems to be hard-cored into your DNA !

Dude you have issues...

Really ? I have issues ? Am I issuing fatwas about who's a muslim or not ? I leave it to Allah !

Saudis this and Saudis that...

Yeah , since it is only your lot that loves to ruin every Iran related thread ! For reasons , not very clear to me because Arab-Persian rivalry is one thing but still everyone should be respectful to other person even if they do not agree with each other ! Rationality , it is called ...

Anyway, why do you care so much about my opinion of Iran?

I do not ... Please do not for one moment think that I do ! I was merely commenting on your post which is exactly what forum is for ... Discussing and Debating right ?

I have my own religious belief that requires me to consider Iranians less Islamic than Israel.

I think I have sufficient understanding of the Quran and Hadith to deduce that not a single interpretation exists which supports what you have said ! Well , I wasn't taught Mr.Wahab books so possibly that is something what I have missed and do think again because maybe its hatred and not religious belief that makes you think this way ... I think even Sunnis live in Iran right ?

P.S Once again , keep in mind I am not a Shia

No offence, you are more than welcomed to feel the same about me. In fact you are encouraged...

To you is your way , and to me is mine !

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim - The Last Sermon


Please ponder over it . Thank you !

 

[RayKalm]

All the people who did harm to the nation will have to answer a rising regional and global power.

Cocky much?

How will you surpass 3 of your more powerful neighbours? Turkey? Israel? Pakistan?

How does an economy that is 80% dependent on oil, still dependent on oil from abroad, has a military weaker than it's neighbour tend to become a global power?

Israel

Turkey

Pakistan

Compare the economies above. If Iran is that much dependent on oil for the source of earnings for their economy, then how does it expect to get anywhere?

 

[Arian]

Cocky much?

How will you surpass 3 of your more powerful neighbours? Turkey? Israel? Pakistan?

LOL. That means to be a joke. right?

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

LOL. That means to be a joke. right?

How dare you question her? you should be ashamed.

 

[Arian]

How dare you question her? you should be ashamed.

I didn't question her, I just asked her if she was kidding or not to get sure LOL

 

[King Solomon]

Israel

Turkey

Pakistan

Compare the economies above. If Iran is that much dependent on oil for the source of earnings for their economy, then how does it expect to get anywhere?

Those are export treemaps. What do you expect from a country which has abundance of oil? I don't know if you have studied Economics, but The rule is, you export things in which you have comparative advantage. Iran clearly has a comparative advantage in hydrocarbon products and takes advantage of it. Just as it should. Actually, for countries like KSA/Qatar, the dependency is more than 90%. Again, nothing unusual about it.

Pakistan has a very large coal/gold reserves as well as hydropower potential... Would you blame pakistan if pakistan actually made use of these reserves for betterment of it's economy? Pakistan is failing to utilize it's resources for whatever reasons while Iran is making efficient use of it's resources. How can you blame Iran for this? Remember, many african countries are oil/resource rich but fails to use it optimally.

Turkey does not have szable oil reserves unlike iran/ksa.

 

[RayKalm]

Those are export treemaps. What do you expect from a country which has abundance of oil? I don't know if you have studied Economics, but The rule is, you export things in which you have comparative advantage. Iran clearly has a comparative advantage in hydrocarbon products and takes advantage of it. Just as it should. Actually, for countries like KSA/Qatar, the dependency is more than 90%. Again, nothing unusual about it.

Pakistan has a very large coal/gold reserves as well as hydropower potential... Would you blame pakistan if pakistan actually made use of these reserves for betterment of it's economy? Pakistan is failing to utilize it's resources for whatever reasons while Iran is making efficient use of it's resources. How can you blame Iran for this? Remember, many african countries are oil/resource rich but fails to use it optimally.

Turkey does not have szable oil reserves unlike iran/ksa.

What I was pointing out was, not Iran's massive oil reserves, rather Iran's massive dependency on other countries to provide it's needs even though it uses the sources it already has.

LOL. That means to be a joke. right?

Not at all.

 

[Arian]

What I was pointing out was, not Iran's massive oil reserves, rather Iran's massive dependency on other countries to provide it's needs even though it uses the sources it already has.

What kind of massive dependency on other countries you mean? Last time I checked we are under sanctions from all corners of the world, so what kind of dependency you mean? be precise please.

Not at all.

Next time do a better research then before you make such comments please.

 

[RayKalm]

What kind of massive dependency on other countries you mean? Last time I checked we are under sanctions from all corners of the world, so what kind of dependency you mean? be precise please.

As I mentioned above, Iran's dependency on oil from abroad lowers it's 'global rising presence'. I do not wish to repeat what I said, but a country that has as much oil as Iran, still has to import it's oil for it's daily needs is a very poor power, if a power at all.

Next time do a better research then before you make such comments please.

Don't make such comments if you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[King Solomon]

What I was pointing out was, not Iran's massive oil reserves, rather Iran's massive dependency on other countries to provide it's needs even though it uses the sources it already has.

Iran depends on a few countries like India for it's oil exports (why blame Iran for the sanctions? Every country depends on other's for exports including pakistan/china). But is definitely not as dependent as it's neighbours:

Iran has attained 90% self-sufficiency in essential agricultural products, although rice production fails to meet domestic demand thereby making substantial imports necessary. In 2007 Iran reached self-sufficiency in wheat production and for the first time became a net wheat exporter.[132] By 2003, a quarter of Iran's non-oil exports were of agricultural products.[133] Major exports in this category include fresh and dried fruits, nuts, animal hides, processed foods, and spices.[7]

The only "need" a country has is agricultural products (in basic level). So, iran's "needs" are well provided for domestically.

Some more:

Iran makes about 96% of medical products domestically.

Iran's automobile industry production is 11th on rankings (just lower than russia).

Iran is completely self sufficient in defense products.

Try as we might, you have to praise Iran for it's determination and resolve in developing it's domestic industry in the face of sanctions.

Economy of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Arian]

As I mentioned above, Iran's dependency on oil from abroad lowers it's 'global rising presence'. I do not wish to repeat what I said, but a country that has as much oil as Iran, still has to import it's oil for it's daily needs is a very poor power, if a power at all.

You don't even differentiate between crude oil and refined oil, Iran doesn't import crude oil, even if we accept western rumors, Iran is importing refined oil products like gasoline from Venezuela. It's up to you to believe whoever you want, but since 2009, after the USA threatened countries with sanctions for selling gasoline to Iran, no country has sold Iran gasoline, except Venezuela probably. Iran is meeting its local demand completely and we are even exporting gasoline to countries like Iraq and Egypt. Now again it's up to you to believe whoever you want.

Don't make such comments if you don't know what you're talking about.

Actually it's you who doesn't know what you're talking about, just because of the respect I have for my Pakistani friends on this forum I won't tell you how ludicrous it is to compare Pakistan with Iran when it comes to economics or other standards for being a regional power. If you want I could inform you about the differences politely though.

 

[King Solomon]

As I mentioned above, Iran's dependency on oil from abroad lowers it's 'global rising presence'. I do not wish to repeat what I said, but a country that has as much oil as Iran, still has to import it's oil for it's daily needs is a very poor power, if a power at all.

Dear, in 2008, Iran faced a domestic crisis due to newly imposed sanctions and temporarily imported 40% of it's gasoline (not oil) to meet demand. In 2010, Iran said it has stopped those imports because it is concentrating on domestic capacity expansion. Iran Claims It Has Started Exporting Gasoline

Every country faces such crisis and has to import it's fuel to meet short term demands. Iran's case is worse due to sanctions. Why single out the blame on Iran?

 

[RayKalm]

Iran depends on a few countries like India for it's oil exports (why blame Iran for the sanctions? Every country depends on other's for exports including pakistan/china). But is definitely not as dependent as it's neighbours

I'm not blaming Iran for anything. Rather, this is what is happening in Iran. Even during the Shah era, Iran had the same problem. There were no sanctions then.

You don't even differentiate between crude oil and refined oil, Iran doesn't import crude oil, even if we accept western rumors, Iran is importing refined oil products like gasoline from Venezuela. It's up to you to believe whoever you want

I'm believing what I see, and what I find out with my research. I was referring to refined oil.

but since 2009, after the USA threatened countries with sanctions for selling gasoline to Iran, no country has sold Iran gasoline, except Venezuela probably. Iran is meeting its local demand completely and we are even exporting gasoline to countries like Iraq and Egypt. Now again it's up to you to believe whoever you want.

I never denied that Iran exported gasoline. As I stated above, where I was referring to Abii, Iran's local demands of refined oil is not up to a standard that can imply that it is reaching a 'global power status' which Abii stated, and that is why I used that point.

Actually it's you who doesn't know what you're talking about, just because of the respect I have for my Pakistani friends on this forum I won't tell you how ludicrous it is to compare Pakistan with Iran when it comes to economics or other standards for being a regional power. If you want I could inform you about the differences politely though.

Why involve the words 'Pakistani friends' here? This has nothing to do with friends.

The economy of Pakistan is aside from the points I stated. What I stated had to do with Iran's massive oil reserves, and it's weakness in using them to it's complete standards.

And, did you just honestly state that Iran is a regional power over Pakistan?

compare Pakistan with Iran when it comes to economics or other standards for being a regional power.

Oh please, I myself can teach you the difference.

The only countries Iran has power over in the region is Iraq, Afghanistan, and countries to the north. No one else. A regional Power: In international relations, a regional power is a state that has power within a geographic region. States which wield unrivaled power and influence within a region of the world possess regional hegemony.

Look at the gulf states. They don't consider Iran to have 'unrivalled power', in fact the gulf states can equally rival Iran, they are more than enough to rival Iran.

As for Turkey, Israel, and Pakistan; all these countries can destroy Iran in military. And Turkey has an even better economy than Iran without oil reserves.

So once again, learn what you speak of.

 

[Darth Vader]

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[King Solomon]

I'm not blaming Iran for anything. Rather, this is what is happening in Iran. Even during the Shah era, Iran had the same problem. There were no sanctions then.

Hmm... I think you are not well informed about Iran. You can read this wiki page for a start (it's well referenced). Iran has it's share of problems, but I think you are being too harsh on Iran:

Economy of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

During Shah's era, everything was imported from oil companies to medicines. Now Iran is mostly self sufficient in those products.

Guess what happened to iraq after sanctions?