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Iran Considers JF-17 Thunder Purchase from #Pakistan

We think it's a good fighter, except in PDF when Pakistani members get cocky and think they have anything to do with it. there is this "douche" vibe going on with some pakistani members that i cannot comprehend. dude get a fucking hold of yourself.

Capabilities of this fighter , and Iranian requirement .

Maybe next time you can use it on intruding USAF helicopters with an RCS equivalent of an elephant. or maybe you're too scared?

American drones violate our Air space by our permission , Iranian and Indian don't that is why we shot them .. Plus America is a Super Power, we can not afford hostility against America .
 
If Pakistan sell JF-17 to Iranian Saudi Arabia will disappointed which I think unlikely Pakistan will like to annoyed a friend like Saudi Arabia in this crucial time when Pakistani economy is struggling. One option is sell JF-17 through China like the selling to Mayanmar. If Pakistan can utilizes Iranian buying desires to sell some JF-17 to Saudi and it's gulf ally will be the best for Pakistan.
smart idea.
 
It is unlikely Trump will win 2020 election. Democrats are expected to take back white house in 2020 and lift sanction on Iran which was what Obama deal was. Anyway, if Pakistan misses this opportunity, Russia gets the sale.
 
It is unlikely Trump will win 2020 election. Democrats are expected to take back white house in 2020 and lift sanction on Iran which was what Obama deal was. Anyway, if Pakistan misses this opportunity, Russia gets the sale.


Trump will win unless he is impeached
 
The most important facet is what would happen if Iran attacks any GCC nation with this aircraft. For eternity our relationship will be destroyed.

That said, Thunder can be a weapon for peace. We can ask them to sign a peace treaty with GCC nations as pre-condition of any Thunder sale.

Thunder diplomacy can also be used to end Iranian support for Houthis in Yemen. That would be in line with IK's vision of Pakistan as arbitrator.
 
but the transaction via china is possible.
I believe the "Sell Iran planes" is one of China's most serious, last cards in its competition with US. China hasnt been pushed to the corner enough yet IMO to justify playing that card. China can do it, IF she wants and needs to, but she doesnt.....at least not for now.
 
Scramble magazine reporting this...

During the 9th International Iran Kish Airshow (Kish Island, Iran) that is currently underway, rumours are circulating that the Iranian Ministry of Defence has shown serious interest in replacing the current fleet of Sukhoi Su-22M/UM and F-5E/F with the CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder single-engine, multi-role combat aircraft. It would certainly be a cheap and good alternative for the replacement of the ageing hardware of the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force (IRIAF).

As far back as 2016, Iran earlier showed interest in Chinese as well as Russian hardware. During MAKS 2016, Iranian officials expressed interest in acquiring Sukhoi Su-30 Flankers for the IRIAF. Not betting on one horse, Iran was also talking to the Chinese government. China and Iran were mulling a USD 1 billion deal for 24 Chengdu J-10 fourth-generation fighters in exchange for control of Iran’s biggest oil field for two decades. Both negotiations never resulted in any acquisition, however.

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The most important facet is what would happen if Iran attacks any GCC nation with this aircraft. For eternity our relationship will be destroyed.

That said, Thunder can be a weapon for peace. We can ask them to sign a peace treaty with GCC nations as pre-condition of any Thunder sale.

Thunder diplomacy can also be used to end Iranian support for Houthis in Yemen. That would be in line with IK's vision of Pakistan as arbitrator.
China can produce Fc -1 and split the profit with Pakistan. you are stakeholders, you dont need to risk your relationship with GCC. the possibility of selling JF 17 to Iran is near to zero.
 
China can produce Fc -1 and split the profit with Pakistan. you are stakeholders, you dont need to risk your relationship with GCC. the possibility of selling JF 17 to Iran is near to zero.

Actually, I am not against selling anything to anyone. I mean, in a hypothetical world, if Israel wants to buy Thunder, then why not? They must agree to hand over all occupied lands first!!!

Selling to Iran has many geo-political nuances which need to be considered even if the sale is through China. Remember there is a fledgling relationship between China and Saudi after the King's visit. So even China will face pressure. The best way would be to directly address the underlying cause for concern.
 
Iranian general experience JF-17/FC-1 ,may consider purchasing them to replace the F14 /MiG-29

People's Network (Source: Global Network Military) 11-28 15:42


[Global Network Military Report] The Iranian military is considering purchasing the JF-17 "Thunder" fighter aircraft (China No.: FC-1) made in Pakistan to gradually replace the aging F-14 and MiG-29 fighters.

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According to a message from foreign netizen Muzammil Hatami at the opening of the Pakistan Defense Defense Exhibition (IDEAS 2018), an Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards General visited the Pakistani JF-17 fighter jet at the 10th IDEAS Defense Exhibition in Karachi. A speech (the Iranian Air Force fleet will introduce the JF-17 "Thunder" fighter next year).
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According to Muzammil Hatami, Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard officials announced that they will reach an agreement with Pakistan to purchase JF-17 Thunder fighters during the IDEAS exhibition in 2018.

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Iran has long been looking for new fighters to replace its aging third-generation fighters. After decades of financial and technological killings, Iran tried to rebuild its air power.
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Not long ago, Iran had planned to sign a contract with Russia to introduce the Su-30SM fighter. However, due to the influence of the United States and several European countries, the deal failed.

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The MiG-29, equipped with the Iranian Air Force, fled from Iraq during the Gulf War.

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The Iranian Air Force’s F-14 fighters were struggling under the US blockade.
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JF-17 is a multi-purpose light fighter co-produced by the Pakistan Aviation Complex (PAC). It is jointly developed by China and Pakistan. It has good air interception and ground attack capability and strong weapon mounting capability. And equipped with a complete air-to-air, on-board weapon system.

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The "FC-1"/JF-17 fighters currently being produced in Pakistan are constantly being upgraded, and new models with air refueling capability have been introduced. The new version of the advanced airborne active phased array fire control radar is also steadily being developed. Advance.
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It is reported that China and Pakistan actively cooperate to promote the "FC-1"/JF-17 fighter aircraft to the international market. Some media speculated more than a dozen potential export targets, including Argentina, Bangladesh, Bulgaria, Myanmar, Nigeria, the Philippines, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.
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According to comprehensive reports, so far, two countries in Myanmar and Nigeria have introduced "FC-1/JF-17 fighters. Purchasing "FC-1" fighters is a perfect choice for Iran.

伊朗将军体验“枭龙” 或考虑采购取代F14米格29
人民网(来源:环球网军事) 11-28 15:42


【环球网军事报道】伊朗军方正考虑采购巴基斯坦制造的JF-17“雷霆”战斗机,以逐步取代老化的F-14和米格-29战斗机。

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据外国网友Muzammil Hatami在刚刚开幕的巴基斯坦防务展(IDEAS 2018)现场发布的消息称,一位伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队将军在卡拉奇举行的第10届IDEAS防务展上,参观了巴基斯坦制造JF-17战斗机后发表讲话(伊朗空军机队将于明年引入JF-17“雷霆”战机)。
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据Muzammil Hatami称,伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队官员宣布即将与巴基斯坦达成协议,在2018年的IDEAS展览期间采购JF-17雷霆战斗机。

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伊朗长期以来一直在寻找新型战斗机,以取代其老化的第三代战机。在经过数十年的金融和技术扼杀后,伊朗试图重建其空中力量。
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在不久之前,伊朗曾计划与俄罗斯签订合同,引进苏-30SM战斗机。但由于美国和几个欧洲国家的影响,这笔交易未能成功。

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伊朗空军装备的米格-29战机,系海湾战争期间从伊拉克叛逃而来。

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伊朗空军的F-14战机,在美国封锁之下苦苦维持。
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JF-17是由巴基斯坦航空综合体(PAC)生产的“枭龙”多用途轻型战斗机,该机有中巴共同开发,具有较好的空中拦截和对地攻击能力,较强的武器挂载能力,并配备有完整的对空、对地机载武器系统。

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目前在巴基斯坦生产的“枭龙”/JF-17战机在不断进行升级,已经推出具备空中加油能力的新型号,换装先进机载有源相控阵火控雷达的新版本项目也正在稳步推进。
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据悉,中巴积极合作向国际市场推销“枭龙”/JF-17战机。有媒体推测了十多个潜在的出口对象,包括阿根廷、孟加拉国、保加利亚、缅甸、尼日利亚、菲律宾、委内瑞拉和津巴布韦等。
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综合有关报道,到目前为止已经有缅甸、尼日利亚两个国家引进了“枭龙”/JF-17战机。采购“枭龙”战斗机对于伊朗可以说是个完美的选择。
 
if Iran want FC _1, China will not turn it down. anyway, we will negotiate with Pakistan to make the decision. its a good news, anyway.

Actually, I am not against selling anything to anyone. I mean, in a hypothetical world, if Israel wants to buy Thunder, then why not? They must agree to hand over all occupied lands first!!!

Selling to Iran has many geo-political nuances which need to be considered even if the sale is through China. Remember there is a fledgling relationship between China and Saudi after the King's visit. So even China will face pressure. The best way would be to directly address the underlying cause for concern.
it will not put much negative influence on China and Saud relationship, China is an international weapon seller. Fc-1 is not a strategic weapon.
 
I want Tomcat, the most beautiful war machine ever:wub::wub:
 
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