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Iran and the Shah: What Really Happened

I'm talking about his father. Cia benefited from terrorists to fight communist soviet influence and groups. Nothing is preposterous when we talk about CIA/MI6 terrorism and history.
The CIA did not benefit at all. The overthrow of the Shah was an overwhelming loss for them. If they really thought it would turn out differently then they were imbeciles. And if they were imbeciles then they couldn't have planned such a complex operation.
 
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@al-Hasani

Iran as a country is less tribal than its arab neighbours. This is a fact. The only "division" we have in Iran is that we have different related peoples in our country (except the arabs and turkmens). However we have not tens of tribes for persian peoples for example (which are now 65% of the country), same for most of azeris.

And when we speak of tribal groups within the baluch or lur ethnicity, it doesnt play a major role in their self identification, culture and it never plays a role in creating conflicts. Afghanistan went its own way, that's why they are more tribal (the pashtuns which you mentioned).

All nations were nomadic/semi-nomadic before becoming settled. Even Ancient Iranians like Zoroaster were against nomadism and preached for agriculture.


Arabs destroyed themselves with their jewish influenced fairytales (they wrote most of their religion when they lived in Iran under rule of persians... so we see persian elements in it), we see the results today in Iraq, Syria, Yemen :lol:

Sad thing for you is that the gathas of zoroaster (words of zoroaster himself) have no arabic words, but the Quran has persian words (while it claims it's 100% arabic, so someone was drinking wine on this earth or above the earth?)
Safavids were kurdish descent my friend :lol: you've internet, time to update your knowledge.

Finally before talking more nonsense arabs were ruled 1000 of years by turkics, Iranian peoples and invaded 1000 times by Americans, Israel etc (except some deserts were only mouse and rats live). :lol: They even needed Americans to liberate their people from Saddam or to protect their fake straight British drawn borders from their enemies.

Large parts of the Arab world are less tribal than Iran. Tribalism is basically dead in the GCC outside of parts of KSA. Yemen, Iraq and Libya are the only strongholds and that is due to sectarian/ethnic conflicts.

Whatever percentage the "Persians" might be half of Iran is almost made up by non-Persians. Native ones. It's like if KSA was half Jewish.

Anyway obviously you skipped the part about your nomadic past which is much stronger than that of us Semites and your cousins being the most tribal people on the planet outside of Sub-Saharan Africans. Pashtuns for instance regard their
Pashtunwali (in some cases) as being a higher authority than Islam. I don't need to tell you about the Kurds either? You have millions of them after all. Baluch are very tribal too. Even those that have settled in Oman etc. are more tribal than the locals. Tajiks are not holding back either. Be it in Afghanistan or Tajikistan.

Currently Iran is home to more nomads than KSA. Basically you have two ethnic groups who were nomads until very recently and many of them are still nomads. The Lurs (subgroup of Persians and probably the real Persians) and Qashqai.

Your homeland are the steppes of Central Asia and its deserts. Have you ever bothered to read about your past? Andronovo Culture? Schytians? The earliest Persians? How come do you think that a few of such migrants could Persianize the entire Iranean Plateau? You think that the people of Elam just disappeared?

LOL, what? The Qur'an was already written before Arabs conquered Iran. The Ahadith were already told they just needed collection with some already were.

What have Jews to do with anything? You do realize that the Abrahamic religions are also called Semitic religions for a reason. Have you ever bothered studying Pre-Abarahamic Semitic religions and ever noticed the similarities? Have you ever wondered why Makkah is a holy city in Islam and was that even before Islam? At least according to the locals and other Semites?

Abrahamic religions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Iranian peoples never ruled any Arabs outside of Southern Iraq (Lakhmids) and tiny parts of Eastern Arabia. You never ruled Arabia outside of parts of (Eastern Arabia and Yemen) for a very short time and you were influenced more than the other way around. Similarly with the Turks that only ruled for 300-350 years. They only controlled Hijaz in Arabia. And often only nominally. They also became much more influenced by us Arabs than vice versa. Anyone knows this too.

Before anything was called Persian or Iran Assyrians ruled most of Western Iran for centuries.

What you see in most of the ME is Arab culture in one way or another. That's just the reality.

Your Ahura Mazda is another copycat of an ancient Semitic God (Assyrian more precisely). The Arab world is the size of Russia. It's fertile lands alone are bigger than Iran.

Moreover Iran is home to the hottest deserts on the planet.

Lut Desert in Iran is the hottest place on Earth | Iran destinations
 
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PI$$ drinkers have got big mouth. When u Pi$$ drinkers were drinking camel's PI$$ and eat snake and lizard alive Great-Persia conquered half of the world. When u "PI$$ drinkers" worshipped stones Iranians had bill of Rights. => Great Cyrus Cylinder

Yet in 2014 u nomads are living in tribes like primitive men and behead each other.

African are more civilized than u. At least they don't behead each other by sword. Disgusting wild lizard eaters :bad: :bad::bad:
Let alone PI$$$ !


Do not waste your time for this Lizard PI$$ drinker and eater :bad:

@Kaan

Most possibly a double user acem. Can't you ban this immediatly for swearing. ?
 
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@atatwolf

Thank me for removing one of the mortal enemies of Arabs and Turks. A serial troll on PDF that even must have scared the Mullah's when it comes to determination. Now delete your posts in that other thread and I will delete mine. Your initial trolling in that other thread should not destroy the good ties between Arabs and Turks.

@Kaan force him or @usernameless
 
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@al-Hasani
I'm not talking about arab world, I'm talking about GCC, Iraq and Syria. Even in modern Libanon we have tribal kidnappings revenge killings, we never see such things in Iran.

Iran countrs 1,5 million nomads today. I don't think we have more nomads than gcc (just wiki "bedouin"). Inside Saudi Arabia the Bedouin remained the majority of the population during the first half of the 20th century. However, due to change of lifestyle their number has decreased dramatically.

I never said Iranian were not nomads, all nations were nomads or semi-nomadic. There were Iranian semi-nomads in Central Asia who settled in central asia, long before persians and other Iranians settled in Iran. The elamites were assimilated/mixed with persians. Actually the persians became majority in different parts of Iran, I can't post links but I will give the the source later. And they still are: The library of congress issued slightly different estimates>>persians 65%,

Central asia is 100 times more beautifull than saudi deserts where only desert rats and snakes survive.
Google landscape/mountains of central asia and you see what I mean.

Yes the Quran was written earlier, however it has persian words! because persian influence and ideas were already there. About jews I'm saying big part of their religion was written when they were under persian rule and influence, including their liberation from slavery. For example some compare the Saoshyant with the mahdi, messias.

We liberated the arabs from Ethiopians (and were called "the free ones" by arabs), we never were interested in Ruling Arabia which was and is 95% desert. The important semitic lands (and later arab lands) were Syria and Iraq, especially babylonia and later baghdad. Todays saudi arabia only became important because of religion sites (mecca, medina) else even the ottomans would not occupy it.

Lol ahura mazda is Indo-Iranian term actually related and related to Indo-european god/religion (zeus for example).

Iran having some hottest point doesnt say anything. When looking at arable lands, Iran is 16th in world!, way ahead of saudi arabia which is 51th (best of the gcc), qatar and bahrain etc are like 100th, 180th etc..
 
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I don't think Iranians are as racist as you say :P

There's a lot of Iranians I know and they are quite nice. Just my personal experience anyway but some seem to be racist towards Arabs but none of them has been racist towards Turkey or Turks and they even visit Turkey occasionally.
What about Azeri ? Farsis are constantly threatening Azerbaijan
 
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Britain put him and his dynasty in power. Why would we overthrow him? It's idiocy. We did eventually drop him because he was a liability but that's not the same as supporting his opponents.

You obviously didn't read my post, otherwise you would know why Britain wanted to get rid of the Shah.

Yes, he was installed by Britain and the US, and I made a mistake when I said "The Shah was never a puppet of the west", of course in the 50's and 60's he was definitely an Anglo-Saxon puppet, but in the 70's he slowly began to become more assertive towards them, especially in oil policies. Watch this video and then tell me that you didn't want to overthrow him:
(Of course what he says at the end about his popularity was an exaggerated assumption.)

Shah Of Iran Critisizing Britain



There is no doubt the Anglo-Saxons wanted him out. They brought in Khomenei to turn Iran into a second Saudi Arabia. And indeed, the first years of the revolution were very bloody years, the regime killed a lot of people and did overall a lot of mistakes, this unfortunately happens when a real revolution happens and not just a cosmetic regime change. Major revolutions were always followed bloody and chaotic years. But one day the new leaders come to their senses, in Irans case the experience of the war woke the mullahs and IRGC up, they restarted the nuclear programm, begann to invest in science and education, built industries...generally when it comes to self-suffiency, the mullahs are far more determined than the Shah, because of their war memories.
The Anglo-Saxons wanted a new Saudi Arabia, but despite the war and western sanctions, Iran today belongs to the leading countries in the world concerning scientific growth. :lol:
After the war and the reconstruction years, Irans scientific growth exploded!

In 1998 ----> rank 49

SJR - International Science Ranking

In 2003 ----> rank 39

SJR - International Science Ranking

In 2008 ----> rank 22

SJR - International Science Ranking

In 2013 ----> rank 17

SJR - International Science Ranking


And when it comes to oil, the Anglo-Saxons have no influence in Iran anymore, they are totally out, in contrast to the Shah era. :hitwall:

So it's up to the US and Britain now, this is now the last chance to regain at least a pragmatic relationship with Iran, if they don't seize this opportunity, Iran will inevitable join the Russian-Chinese camp.
 
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@al-Hasani
I'm not talking about arab world, I'm talking about GCC, Iraq and Syria. Even in modern Libanon we have tribal kidnappings revenge killings, we never see such things in Iran.

Iran countrs 1,5 million nomads today. I don't think we have more nomads than gcc (just wiki "bedouin"). Inside Saudi Arabia the Bedouin remained the majority of the population during the first half of the 20th century. However, due to change of lifestyle their number has decreased dramatically.

I never said Iranian were not nomads, all nations were nomads or semi-nomadic. There were Iranian semi-nomads in Central Asia who settled in central asia, long before persians and other Iranians settled in Iran. The elamites were assimilated/mixed with persians. Actually the persians became majority in different parts of Iran, I can't post links but I will give the the source later. And they still are: The library of congress issued slightly different estimates>>persians 65%,

Central asia is 100 times more beautifull than saudi deserts where only desert rats and snakes survive.
Google landscape/mountains of central asia and you see what I mean.

Yes the Quran was written earlier, however it has persian words! because persian influence and ideas were already there. About jews I'm saying big part of their religion was written when they were under persian rule and influence, including their liberation from slavery. For example some compare the Saoshyant with the mahdi, messias.

We liberated the arabs from Ethiopians (and were called "the free ones" by arabs), we never were interested in Ruling Arabia which was and is 95% desert. The important semitic lands (and later arab lands) were Syria and Iraq, especially babylonia and later baghdad. Todays saudi arabia only became important because of religion sites (mecca, medina) else even the ottomans would not occupy it.

Lol ahura mazda is Indo-Iranian term actually related and related to Indo-european god/religion (zeus for example).

Iran having some hottest point doesnt say anything. When looking at arable lands, Iran is 16th in world!, way ahead of saudi arabia which is 51th (best of the gcc), qatar and bahrain etc are like 100th, 180th etc..

What are you talking about? I already told you that Iran is home to more tribals and more fierce tribals. Nothing in the Arab world, outside of Yemenis, come even close to Pashtuns, Tajiks, Kurds or Baluch when it comes to tribalism. Have you even read those peoples "codes of honors"? Our Bedouins, who were always a tiny minority of Arabs and still are, don't even come close. They have their honor codes as well but not to that extend.

Have you ever heard about any tribal wars or conflicts in the GCC? It's safer than anywhere in the Muslim world. Lowest murder rates, no ethnic conflicts despite being the most diverse part of the Muslim world (thanks to migration) but Hijaz on its own is the most diverse without migration.

What we see in Lebanon is political kidnappings. Lebanon is one of the most liberal and modern states of the ME. Anyone that has ever visited, outside the Mullah terror regime sponsored Hezbollah controlled hellholes, will confirm this. Beirut has some of the best nightlife in the region. It was once called the Paris of the East for a reason.

That Wiki page is pure nonsense. There are no sources and those that are are nonsense sources as anyone can investigate themselves. Go an check the sources on those numbers. Sudan apparently has 10 million or so which is obviously pure nonsense. There are almost no true Bedouins in KSA anywhere. Ask any Saudi Arabian user here. Anyway there is nothing wrong with being a nomad. All people were that at one point and it plays a big role in most peoples cultures. Nomadic values are on certain areas also beautiful.

That was only in Najd. Anyway in the West they call certain ancient Arab tribes and thus its members for Bedouins no matter if they have lived in towns for 2000 years. An perfect example are the Shammar tribe. Biggest Arab tribe in Iraq and one of the biggest in KSA. 99% of its members are settled yet it is called an Bedouin tribe. Moreover that tribe trace their ancestry to the ancient Arabian Tayy tribe. You Persians call Arabs Tazi apparently due to you thinking that Tayy = Arabs. Tayy were settled people 2000 years ago when they apparently migrated from Yemen to Northern Najd and Eastern/Southern Iraq. In Yemen they were settled as far back as 800 BC. Before anything was called Iran in other words. That's just 1 example.

Another example is the Al-Saud being called Bedouins despite them never being so. Which you can read yourself if you research this.

Let's be honest. Many people in Iran have been Persianized. Our serial troll Abii for instance claims to be an Persian but his paternal family is Azerbaijani Turkic. Or so he wrote on PDF. I know many of such Iranians personally. For instance Baluchs claiming to be Persian. So probably the number of real Persians are probably even less so.

You must be joking? The Arabian Peninsula/ME is one of the most beautiful areas of the world. It's the cradle of civilization. Nothing beats that. This thread below speaks for itself. Anyway it is not actually Central Asia. It is the barren Volga Steppe that you people originate on. There are basically nothing there. No mountains, no sea, no lakes. All there, is steppes. No history either. Nice homeland indeed, Borat.

The Arabian Peninsula and Arab world in photos | Page 30

LOL, keep telling yourself those lies. You Persians had nothing to do with Islam or any other Semitic religion. The only thing you had in common was us forcing it upon you. Similarly your so-called indigenous religions are ripoffs of our ancient Semitic religions and Gods. Just look at your national symbols, your Azure Mazda or what he is called etc. It's all copies.

Anyway our people influenced you much more than vice versa. In Pre-Islamic times and Islamic ties. This is obvious for all. Moreover Iran is no match for even 1 Arab country (Egypt) let alone almost all 25 Arab countries or 500 million Arabs. So you are just the annoying little brother that you gave a heavy spanking a few times and changed his whole being but due to that he keeps trying to get his revenge but he is yet to succeed so. You never expect him to do but it is still annoying.

To make the trolling worse Iranian Arabs rule your asses:lol:

That's Iran in the eyes of Arabs, LOL.
 
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You obviously didn't read my post, otherwise you would know why Britain wanted to get rid of the Shah.

Yes, he was installed by Britain and the US, and I made a mistake when I said "The Shah was never a puppet of the west", of course in the 50's and 60's he was definitely an Anglo-Saxon puppet, but in the 70's he slowly began to become more assertive towards them, especially in oil policies. Watch this video and then tell me that you didn't want to overthrow him:
(Of course what he says at the end about his popularity was an exaggerated assumption.)



There is no doubt the Anglo-Saxons wanted him out. They brought in Khomenei to turn Iran into a second Saudi Arabia. And indeed, the first years of the revolution were very bloody years, the regime killed a lot of people and did overall a lot of mistakes, this unfortunately happens when a real revolution happens and not just a cosmetic regime change. Major revolutions were always followed bloody and chaotic years. But one day the new leaders come to their senses, in Irans case the experience of the war woke the mullahs and IRGC up, they restarted the nuclear programm, begann to invest in science and education, built industries...generally when it comes to self-suffiency, the mullahs are far more determined than the Shah, because of their war memories.
The Anglo-Saxons wanted a new Saudi Arabia, but despite the war and western sanctions, Iran today belongs to the leading countries in the world concerning scientific growth. :lol:
After the war and the reconstruction years, Irans scientific growth exploded!

In 1998 ----> rank 49



In 2003 ----> rank 39


In 2008 ----> rank 22



In 2013 ----> rank 17




And when it comes to oil, the Anglo-Saxons have no influence in Iran anymore, they are totally out, in contrast to the Shah era. :hitwall:

So it's up to the US and Britain now, this is now the last chance to regain at least a pragmatic relationship with Iran, if they don't seize this opportunity, Iran will inevitable join the Russian-Chinese camp.
I'm having trouble understanding what you actually think. You seem to be both pro Shah and pro Revolution
 
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I'm having trouble understanding what you actually think. You seem to be both pro Shah and pro Revolution

You are obviously a jackass, if you would clearly read what I write, you would get your answers.
 
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I'm having trouble understanding what you actually think. You seem to be both pro Shah and pro Revolution

Well, he like all other Iranians that have been militarily, religiously, culturally, linguistically (Farsi is basically half Arabic and they use the Arabic Alphabet with only 3 new additions) and even ethnically conquered (Iranian Arabs occupy parts of Iran today) by Arabs is desperate to find his new identity. After all everywhere he looks he see Arab traces. Whenever he opens his mouth too. He sees this everywhere. This is very traumatic. Moreover it is even more traumatic for them to learn that even before Islam they were heavily influenced by us Semites on al fronts. I mean just look at their pre-Islamic alphabet. It was based on our Semitic Phoenician alphabet. Their capital was Babylon. A city that predates them with millenniums. Their first empires official language was Aramaic. A Semitic language closely related to Arabic. Their national symbols are also total ripoffs of our Semitic symbols. Their Pre-Islamic Gods have also been heavily influenced by our Semitic Gods. The list is enormous. Basically they are newcomers to the ME. We have lived in the ME for 30.000 years while they came 3.000 years ago from the barren Volga Steppe.

That so-called "Shah" came from a Kurdish peasant family from Iraq (Diyala). He failed on most fields and was removed by the Iranian masses. He was British installed.

Shortly because that officer became "Shah" 40% of the entire Iranian population died due to famine.

The Great Famine and Genocide in Persia, 1917-1919: Mohammad Gholi Majd: 9780761826330: Amazon.com: Books

So you Brits killed 40% of Iran's population less than 100 years ago.

Now they have been ruled by people that claim Arab ancestry and Turban heads for 35 straight years and created a North Korea II in Iran. With some of the highest inflation rates in the world, poverty, pollution, smog everywhere in the main cities, some of the worst roads in the world, drought, lack of water resources, highest number of heroin addicts in the world, drug addiction, alcoholism, lack of newborns, gays and lesbians in the thousands, high crime rates, prostitution.

As the Arab Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah says then Iran is an Arab colony and has been so for the past 1400 years. Now our puppets the Basij's are oppressing every Farsi that speaks up about Arab colonization. If they do they will be hanged or killed or thrown in jail. Those that are against Arab colonial rule should go back to the Volga Steppe and join Borat. Or Afghanistan nearby. Here the Taliban rule with a harsh hand and they hate Farsis and killed many of them too despite being their cousins.


Let's not even talk about what they do in the GCC. Let's leave that for your google skills and imagination.

:cheers::rofl:

Even most Iranians in Europe when they want to get ME ingredients have to buy it from Arabs or Turks as we own most of those businesses in Europe. That is why Iranian migrants try to integrate so well but they are still never seen as locals but unwanted migrants. In the meantime Iran gets populated by illegal Afghan and Hazara migrants who increase the already sky-high crime levels!

Also let's not forget the earthquakes. Every single moment Iran can be very hard it. Nothing they can do almost to prevent it. The seismic activity will always be there. Sooner rather than later the ticking time bomb will explode.
 
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The US provided the best equipment they had to the Shah. Iran got F-14s. Name one other country that was able to purchase those from the US. The US gifted a nuclear rector facility to Iran. It was built in Iran by US money. The US had full intention of propping up the Shah. Foreign companies got a major share of natural resources of Iran. At the time Iran was a huge support for Israel. The Shah could have given up some of the power, to make the people happy, so that there would not have been a revolution but that that wasn't his goal.

Yes the US armed the Shah to teeth and made alot of money out of it, but when this military builtup became a threat to US interests, they toppled him and made Saddam attack Iran while at the same time santioning Iran, thus degrading Irans military capabilities.
 
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What are you talking about? I already told you that Iran is home to more tribals and more fierce tribals. Nothing in the Arab world, outside of Yemenis, come even close to Pashtuns, Tajiks, Kurds or Baluch when it comes to tribalism. Have you even read those peoples "codes of honors"? Our Bedouins, who were always a tiny minority of Arabs and still are, don't even come close. They have their honor codes as well but not to that extend.

Have you ever heard about any tribal wars or conflicts in the GCC? It's safer than anywhere in the Muslim world. Lowest murder rates, no ethnic conflicts despite being the most diverse part of the Muslim world (thanks to migration) but Hijaz on its own is the most diverse without migration.

What we see in Lebanon is political kidnappings. Lebanon is one of the most liberal and modern states of the ME. Anyone that has ever visited, outside the Mullah terror regime sponsored Hezbollah controlled hellholes, will confirm this. Beirut has some of the best nightlife in the region. It was once called the Paris of the East for a reason.

That Wiki page is pure nonsense. There are no sources and those that are are nonsense sources as anyone can investigate themselves. Go an check the sources on those numbers. Sudan apparently has 10 million or so which is obviously pure nonsense. There are almost no true Bedouins in KSA anywhere. Ask any Saudi Arabian user here. Anyway there is nothing wrong with being a nomad. All people were that at one point and it plays a big role in most peoples cultures. Nomadic values are on certain areas also beautiful.

That was only in Najd. Anyway in the West they call certain ancient Arab tribes and thus its members for Bedouins no matter if they have lived in towns for 2000 years. An perfect example are the Shammar tribe. Biggest Arab tribe in Iraq and one of the biggest in KSA. 99% of its members are settled yet it is called an Bedouin tribe. Moreover that tribe trace their ancestry to the ancient Arabian Tayy tribe. You Persians call Arabs Tazi apparently due to you thinking that Tayy = Arabs. Tayy were settled people 2000 years ago when they apparently migrated from Yemen to Northern Najd and Eastern/Southern Iraq. In Yemen they were settled as far back as 800 BC. Before anything was called Iran in other words. That's just 1 example.

Another example is the Al-Saud being called Bedouins despite them never being so. Which you can read yourself if you research this.

Let's be honest. Many people in Iran have been Persianized. Our serial troll Abii for instance claims to be an Persian but his paternal family is Azerbaijani Turkic. Or so he wrote on PDF. I know many of such Iranians personally. For instance Baluchs claiming to be Persian. So probably the number of real Persians are probably even less so.

You must be joking? The Arabian Peninsula/ME is one of the most beautiful areas of the world. It's the cradle of civilization. Nothing beats that. This thread below speaks for itself. Anyway it is not actually Central Asia. It is the barren Volga Steppe that you people originate on. There are basically nothing there. No mountains, no sea, no lakes. All there, is steppes. No history either. Nice homeland indeed, Borat.

The Arabian Peninsula and Arab world in photos | Page 30

LOL, keep telling yourself those lies. You Persians had nothing to do with Islam or any other Semitic religion. The only think you had in common was us forcing it upon you. Similarly your so-called indigenous religions are ripoffs of our ancient Semitic religions and Gods. Just look at your national symbols, your Azure Mazda or what he is called etc. It's all copies.

Anyway our people influenced you much more than vice versa. In Pre-Islamic times and Islamic ties. This is obvious for all. Moreover Iran is no match for even 1 Arab country (Egypt) let alone almost all 25 Arab countries or 500 million Arabs. So you are just the annoying little brother that you gave a heavy spanking a few times and changed his whole being but due to that he keeps trying to get his revenge but he is yet to succeed so. You never expect him to do but it is still annoying.

That's Iran in the eyes of Arabs, LOL.

I'm talking about that arab societies are more tribal than Iran which is not strange. Tribal in sence of tribes and religion. They behead and attack each other, even in many african countries full of aids and tribes no such things happen. There is no such thing as tribalism among persians, not even among tajiks/persians of central asia.

Arabian peninsula is alsmost 100% arab unlike Iran which is not 100% persian, but still in some of their areas like Yemen we see tribal conflicts. I wonder if without the oil these tribal wars would also start in some of the GCC countries.

I know Lebanon was named paris of middle east, but even with that name they have still tribal kidnappings. Politics, religion and tribalism mixes there.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with being nomad, but sources tell GCC have more nomads than Iran.
About some people in Iran being persianized, it's because persian culture influenced other Iranic nations. Nothing wrong with that. So when saying Persian, I mean also those who were persianized.

Overall central asia and Iran is much more beautifull than GCC+Yemen. The landscape and mountains are superior tot the flat deserts. Now you can give me a link with some beautifull pictures of GCC, but how many % of GCC looks like that? I mean the landscape (the natural beauty). 95% of saudi arabia is desert.

Well there was no forcing upon us because persians became majority muslims after 300 years, so please update your knowledge, mostly influenced by Iranians (masters of hadith for example). Umayads were already defeated and abbasids had become powerless puppets of turkics and persians generals/dynasties.

Well my friend I'm sorry to repeat this, but Indo-Iranian religions like budhism, zoroastrianism and hinduism have nothing to do with semitic religions. The gathas and vedas (oldest core of these religions which are the "quran" of indo-iranians, not the "hadiths" of indo-Iranians ) have no semitic words either. But the Quran has persians words, while contradicting itself by saying it's pure arabic!

That symbol which is an innovation is not part of zoroastrianism, zoroastrians were actually against babylonian and roman ways of practicing religion. And all those things were from Sumerians who influenced semitic nomads. Zoroastrians changed icons/statues with fire, early zoroastrianism even had no fire temples. Armenian zoroastrians were influenced by romans and used statues to project god or angels.

Without persians Islam would be incomplete, 50% of islam is a persian product, @Shapur Zol Aktaf one time wrote about this.
The poinonous influence is fortunately disappearing, not only in Iran, but among all neighbours and youth of those nations. And finally we see how it looks like to follow arab ways (like in Iraq and Syria). It's a big theatre for the nations of the world.

There are 290 million native arab speakers, not 500. Also we don't care about your slaves in North africa which you call arabs :lol: we captured many of them during Iran-Iraq war when this "arab world" was united, strong and supported saddam. If it was a fair fight we could have go Israeli on them, during Shah there was a balance and we defeated Iraqi army, they begged us to stop.

3 arab empires, all 3 defeated (at least partly) by Iranian forces.
Fatimids by Ayyubid Iranic kurds.
Umayads (which was a continuation of Rashidun) by Persian-Shia-Abbasid coalition, the revolt started in Khorasan.
Abbasids by Mongol and armenian-persian-georgian coalition (relatives), with persian minister Naser Al Din al Tusi who opened Baghdad.
In these wars we killed at least 2 to 3 million of them, so no need for bragging my ancient arab brother :lol:
 
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