INS Vikrant, India's First Indigenous Aircraft Carrier, To Be Handed Over To Indian Navy In May

[HydraChess]

So can you show me the data on its operations? Lolol.

Show me data for Laoling on its operations? Lolol.

Since when did it became a casino? We bought it to study and refurbish it ourselves, tahts why we didn't get scammed 3bil dollars.

Another way of saying : "We do not want to tell you how badly its fucked up."

 

[Han Patriot]

Show me data for Laoling on its operations? Lolol.


Another way of saying : "We do not want to tell you how badly its fucked up."

Hahah the liaoning only had one refit in 2018 since 2012 it was commissioned.
Compare that to your junk carrier. I don't want to mention how many deaths occurred on that crap ship.

Go to your own Wikipedia source and read how many exercise they participated in numb numb. It was originally bought as a casino a cover to transfer it to China to bypass NATO Turkey. Then it was refitted for many years as we were studying and localising the components. Unlike you numb numbs who like to pay billions and then get scammed, we do things ourselves to learn.

 

[HydraChess]

Hahah the liaoning only had one refit in 2018 since 2012 it was commissioned.

A 9 month refit. They had to replace its air tower complex and its radar. Meaning before this refit the carrier was actually unfit for combat duties or incomplete. Source : https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...ellow-sea-chinese-aircraft-carrier-sea-trials

Yes, since 2013-14 PLAN was running an incomplete aircraft carrier. LOL!

Meanwhile INS Vikramaditya had two refits

1. One month long in 2016 September.
2. Five month long in 2018.

Neither of these involved changing superstructure of the ship or its major equipment like radar. Most of them were maintenance tasks.

1. https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...ya-completes-705-cr-refit/article25274417.ece
2. https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ea-after-refit-works/articleshow/55372686.cms

 

[Han Patriot]

A 9 month refit. They had to replace its air tower complex and its radar. Meaning before this refit the carrier was actually unfit for combat duties or incomplete. Source : https://www.scmp.com/news/china/mil...ellow-sea-chinese-aircraft-carrier-sea-trials

Yes, since 2013-14 PLAN was running an incomplete aircraft carrier. LOL!

Meanwhile INS Vikramaditya had two refits

1. One month long in 2016 September.
2. Five month long in 2018.

Neither of these involved changing superstructure of the ship or its major equipment like radar. Most of them were maintenance tasks.

1. https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...ya-completes-705-cr-refit/article25274417.ece
2. https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ea-after-refit-works/articleshow/55372686.cms

Liaoning was never intended to be a combat carrier. It was a training ship and hence it was modified in 2018 to accommodate te new Par radar which something your junk lacks. So are you telling me your junk is not combat ready? Hahahahah. It was a 6 month modification job and that included maintenance too. So by Chinese standards, your junk is not even combat worthy.

While your junk had numerous repairs before the first overhaul in 2016 and then another one in 2019.and then in between it was mostly harbour ridden. How many sorties and trainings? Ask yourswlf this question. How come 3 years you need an overhaul already while we had one in 10.years.?I am in the marine industry and if your ship. Needs to be dry docked every 3 years, something is really wrong with it. You better clasp your hands and pray to shivalingham. Lolol. Dry dock and routine maintenance are 2 very different things you know. You only dry docked it when you have very serious shit ongoing, alot of things can be maintained and repaired without dry docking.

Btw, liaoning did almost 70 training missions for a period of 10.years, that's an average of 7 a year.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522167527832358912

 

[HydraChess]

Liaoning was never intended to be a combat carrier.

And yet, here you are, using it in combat role. Don't forget you are a 14 trillion dollar economy. You should have been having 15 Supercarriers by now. But you are still using a floating casino as a Aircraft carrier

It was a training ship and hence it was modified in 2018 to accommodate te new Par radar which something your junk lacks.

Chinese Radar. Enough said.


And PAR Radar???? WTF!!! Do you mean YOUR STUPID CARRIER DID NOT HAVE A PAR RADAR AT COMMISSIONING!!! WHAT??????????????

Man your Cheenee standard are worse than anyone knew!

INS-Vikramaditya has PAR since its entering into service in 2013-14. LOL!

This is what a 14 trillion dollar economy manages? Its all sham and junk!

PLAN is a 14 trillion dollar scam.

Hahahahah. It was a 6 month modification job and that included maintenance too. So by Chinese standards, your junk is not even combat worthy.

Actually, its the other way round. If your stupid casino/carrier did not have a PAR at commission, your entire god damn country, its navy, its people are nothing but a joke and junk!

And you talk about exercises! LOL! No wonder your aviators have to do so much exercises and you harp about it. You have substandard training platforms, carriers and aviators.

While your junk had numerous repairs before the first overhaul in 2016 and then another one in 2019.and then in between it was mostly harbour ridden. How many sorties and trainings? Ask yourswlf this question. How come 3 years you need an overhaul already while we had one in 10.years.?I am in the marine industry and if your ship. Needs to be dry docked every 3 years, something is really wrong with it. You better clasp your hands and pray to shivalingham. Lolol. Dry dock and routine maintenance are 2 very different things you know. You only dry docked it when you have very serious shit ongoing, alot of things can be maintained and repaired without dry docking.

None of this shit matters. If you commissioned your stupid carrier without a PAR, your navy is not even worth talking about. Go commit Seppuku or something.

 

[Han Patriot]

And yet, here you are, using it in combat role. Don't forget you are a 14 trillion dollar economy. You should have been having 15 Supercarriers by now. But you are still using a floating casino as a Aircraft carrier


Chinese Radar. Enough said.


And PAR Radar???? WTF!!! Do you mean YOUR STUPID CARRIER DID NOT HAVE A PAR RADAR AT COMMISSIONING!!! WHAT??????????????

Man your Cheenee standard are worse than anyone knew!

INS-Vikramaditya has Resistor-E complex since its entering into service in 2013-14 and yes it includes PAR radar. LOL!

This is what a 14 trillion dollar economy manages? Its all sham and junk!

PLAN is a 14 trillion dollar scam.


Actually, its the other way round. If your stupid casino/carrier did not have a PAR at commission, your entire god damn country, its navy, its people are nothing but a joke and junk!

And you talk about exercises! LOL! No wonder your aviators have to do so much exercises and you harp about it. You have substandard training platforms, carriers and aviators.


None of this shit matters. If you commissioned your stupid carrier without a PAR, your navy is not even worth talking about. Go commit Seppuku or something.

Your resistor E is a PESA radar not an AESA radar genius. The PAR in our naval standards in minimum AESA numb numb. Liaoning was commissioned with an older Chinese AESA, the curved panel type 346, and years later there was a new flat panel type 346A designed for 055,052Ds etc. To meet latest combat deployment standards, we upgraded it. Else it would be just a training ship using our older AESA. By PLAN standard, your vikramaditya is not combat worthy. Get it numb numb? Gosh how can i cure stupidity. Lololol. I am not even gonna go into why the Russian don't really have a functional Aesa until today. We have a more advanced microelectronics industry than Russia and hence our radar tech is actually more developed.

Again since when it was even a casino? It was just a cover to transfer the ship. You still can't answer why your junk is idling most of the time while. We already have 70 training missions in 10 years. Lolol

 

[HydraChess]

Again since when it was even a casino?

Carrier to casino to carrier | Macau Business

Business Intelligence, Macau Business | China’s first aircraft carrier was at one point intended to become a floating casino in the MSAR

www.macaubusiness.com

You don't know the history of your own stuff?
I know, Chinese censor anything that looks bad on them.

Following a six-year bidding period opened by the Ukraine Government, says the publication, the winning bid was announced: from Chong Lot Travel Agency, based in Hong Kong, for US$20 million (MOP160 million). The plan: to tow the ship from the Black Sea, through the Suez Canal and on to Macau, where the ship was to be moored and converted into a floating hotel and casino.

Yup, it was meant to be a floating casino.

Your resistor E is a PESA radar not an AESA radar genius.

Source? And no, your cheenee arse is not one.

 

[Han Patriot]

Carrier to casino to carrier | Macau Business

Business Intelligence, Macau Business | China’s first aircraft carrier was at one point intended to become a floating casino in the MSAR

www.macaubusiness.com

You don't know the history of your own stuff?
I know, Chinese censor anything that looks bad on them.



Yup, it was meant to be a floating casino.


Source? And no, your cheenee arse is not one.

Then tell me when was it a casino? Telling the CIA it was going to be a casino as a cover equates it being a casino? Read the whole saga about the hardwork we did trying to procure and learn. We had a Kiev class and scrapped it since it didn't meet the definition of a proper carrier. Yes, the very same carrier you have now, the Vikramaditya, we scrapped that carriers sister ship because of its fck up design, we studied it for years too. Lol. We know every fck ups with your ship thoroughly.

Only a few countries produce functional AESAs, and China is one of them. We don't even waste our time on PESAs mate.

Now educate your stupidity with this.

Why Russia Can’t Make An AESA Radar?

Russia is yet to produce a production fighter aircraft with an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar. Naturally, there are claims that they are coming soon to a MiG-35 or Su-57 near you.…

www.globaldefensecorp.com

Btw, why is your junk stil idling? Still haven't answered me.

 

[HydraChess]

Only a few countries produce functional AESAs, and China is one of them. We don't even waste our time on PESAs mate.

"Mate", Russia has been designing AESA radars for MUCH longer than you ever made yours. Heck these days even India makes airborne AESA radar on its own. India had access to the best AESA radars courtsey Israel. So much so, that your own Chinese Radar suppliers were making bootleg and fake copies of that and fooling Pakistan.

So forget it. AESA, especially for a surface ship, is nothing that is Cheenee secret. MANY countries have been making one.

Your CCP bastards and Xi-Ding-Dong can make fool of Chinese but rest of the world knows. Chinese are no inventor of AESA. And thats no source for your claim that INS-Vikramaditya has only PESA radar.

Then tell me when was it a casino? Telling the CIA it was going to be a casino as a cover equates it being a casino? Read the whole saga about the hardwork we did trying to procure and learn. We had a Kiev class and scrapped it since it didn't meet the definition of a proper carrier. Yes, the very same carrier you have now, the Vikramaditya, we scrapped that carriers sister ship because of its fck up design, we studied it for years too. Lol. We know every fck ups with your ship thoroughly.

Hard work? You folks fooled a poor Macau business man into buying a ship for a casino and then PLAN took it. Poor guy had to pay 120 million dollars out of pocket and is still paying debt for it. So much for a 14 trillion dollar economy.

 

[Han Patriot]

"Mate", Russia has been designing AESA radars for MUCH longer than you ever made yours. Heck these days even India makes airborne AESA radar on its own. India had access to the best AESA radars courtsey Israel. So much so, that your own Chinese Radar suppliers were making bootleg and fake copies of that and fooling Pakistan.

So forget it. AESA, especially for a surface ship, is nothing that is Cheenee secret. MANY countries have been making one.

Your CCP bastards and Xi-Ding-Dong can make fool of Chinese but rest of the world knows. Chinese are no inventor of AESA. And thats no source for your claim that INS-Vikramaditya has only PESA radar.


Hard work? You folks fooled a poor Macau business man into buying a ship for a casino and then PLAN took it. Poor guy had to pay 120 million dollars out of pocket and is still paying debt for it. So much for a 14 trillion dollar economy.

Dude, you need to read more mate, that poor macau man was a Chinese PLA agent tasked with procuring it under a civilian entity. There had been numerous documentaries made about his. In the 90s,the US tried to press sure NATO ally Turkey to deny the Kuznetsov passage. Hence China had to use a cover to convince the Turks it was for a casino, they knew we were lying but the US couldn't do anything since it was owned by a Macau company and not officially owned by the PRC government. Lololol.

Years later when it arrived, the ship was handed to a naval shipyard instead of the Macau casino. This was the most famous legendary stories in Chinese Navy history. We paid 25mil for the junk while you paid 2.8 bil. We converted it ourselves and learnt all the things over selves and became self reliant while you Indians got scammed. Lolol.

Designing and producing are two diffenrt concepts. India had been designing and developing God knows how many stuff since the oats decade, how many actually became operational? Ask yourselves why MKis are using fck up radars while J15sare using AESAs.AESA tech is directly proportional to the tech level of your semiconductor industry. India and Russia don't have advanced fabs. You can design specify, you can't make it operational. Thats why you had to buy Israeli radars for Vikrant. Indian AeSAs, don't even make me start okay, I have been studying the uttam saga for years. Not even your stupid LCA uses them. Lol. I still remember you guys need to but Israeli TR modules to build your own 'indigenous' radar. Pathetic. So tell em which Indian Aesa is operational on a ship and Aircraft? Answer me pleas. NONE.

 

[HydraChess]

India and Russia don't have advanced fabs

Wait a sec, care to tell us what the hell you mean by "advanced fabs"?

 

[Han Patriot]

Wait a sec, care to tell us what the hell you mean by "advanced fabs"?

Wait a sec, care to tell us what the hell you mean by "advanced fabs"?

Gallium Nitride to be specific. China is a world leader in GaN technology matey. You only have one semi functioning fab SCL. You also need a complement of other semiconductors that are made to the 28nm processes which India does not posses.

A big problem with Uttam is the reliability of the semiconductor and miniaturisation technology, due to the immature stage of your semiconduxtor industry, you can't manufacture and package smaller modules.

 

[HydraChess]

Gallium Nitride to be specific. China is a world leader in GaN technology matey. You only have one semi functioning fab SCL.

Oh? So F-22 Radar should not be AESA because it is not been build around GaN semiconductors? Is that right? Cheenee Lies.

BTW, do you know the difference between power electronics and digital electronics? I am damn sure you don't.

You also need a complement of other semiconductors that are made to the 28nm processes which India does not posses.

Care to tell, why do one need a 28nm processes for making AESA RADARs. Any source to support that? And no I will not accept Chinese Arse as a source. And are you sure its 28 nm and not 18 nm? 28 nm is an oddly specific choice. Cheenee Lies by Han-Liar are so funny!

 

[Han Patriot]

So India already has that specific fabrication technology. Next!


Care to tell, why do one need a 28nm processes for making AESA RADARs. Any source to support that? And no I will not accept Chinese Arse as a source. And are you sure its 28 nm and not 18 nm? 28 nm is an oddly specific choice. Cheenee Lies by Han-Liar are so funny!

BTW, do you know the difference between power electronics and digital electronics? I am damn sure you don't.

You have that technology? You sure? Can you tell me which fab makes GaN chips? For gods sake, until a few years back you can't even make high purity silicon for solar panels. And even lithium batteries had to be imported. Lol

Making a lab piece does not equals making it in a fab matey. Most likely the quality is too low to be even usable. Else why do you think Uttam is still a basket case. Your babus are just justifying their existence with eternal development stage, giving some feel good news once a while so you guys can jerk off while your military continues to import shit from the whole world.lolol

28nm is adequate for most industrial applications my friend. And I am a controls engineer working in the marine industry. So yah, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS DIGITAL ELECTRONICS AND POWER ELECTRONICS. You think radars only have TR modules huh. What about signal processing?

 

[HydraChess]

28nm is adequate for most industrial applications my friend. And I am a controls engineer working in the marine industry. So yah, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS DIGITAL ELECTRONICS AND POWER ELECTRONICS. You think radars only have TR modules huh. What about signal processing?

I asked for a source that shows that we need 28 nm fabrication proess for making AESA radars. Lets first see that and then we will talk about the rest.

You are no engineer. LOL! If you think one needs 28 nm for making computing chips on AESA radars, you are not any kind of engineer. LOL!