INS Vikramaditya’s operation crippled

[AbhimanyuShrivastav]

Its like a homeless person pointing out a fault in someone else's house

 

[Bossman]

Only difference between RD33 and RD 93 is the position of the gearbox,

 

[Judge]

It is going to take the IN a good time to get comfortable with Carrier ops - many years infact.

This Carrier is a generational leap for IN. They are operating a plane like MiG 29K, a quantum leap and will be years before they get comfortable enough through the riskier operations.

 

[Windjammer]

Amazing, isn't it? And the most comical irony is that he frequently accuses Indians of being obsessed about Pakistan.

I guess the Indian members have no other means to salvage themselves except repeatedly use the term 'obsession' as a scoring point....do enlighten me how copy pasting a news item from an Indian source can be termed as obsession, did i add any pov to the feature or demean the equipment like Indians never fail to do, be it the JF-17 or some Pakistani missile tests. Had i said that the IN can use the carrier for point defence or that in case of any misadventure, the MiGs can be escorted to a nearby Pakistani base.....then by all means, hunt in pack and take shots, until then, it's a defence forum and i will keep posting related matters regardless of the cheap banter from Indians just to satisfy their egos .

 

[GORKHALI]

I guess the Indian members have no other means to salvage themselves except repeatedly use the term 'obsession' as a scoring point....do enlighten me how copy pasting a news item from an Indian source can be termed as obsession, did i add any pov to the feature or demean the equipment like Indians never fail to do, be it the JF-17 or some Pakistani missile tests. Had i said that the IN can use the carrier for point defence or that in case of any misadventure, the MiGs can be escorted to a nearby Pakistani base.....then by all means, hunt in pack and take shots, until then, it's a defence forum and i will keep posting related matters regardless of the cheap banter from Indians just to satisfy their egos .

F16 escorted Su 30mki story .....

 

[Windjammer]

F16 escorted Su 30mki story .....

Yes it's lodged on your mind as truth is hard to swallow. . keep repeating same, you will get to accept it...one day.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@Windjammer

Indian Navy will take care of this problem ASAP

After all Mig 29 K is like a Strong WIND Which will blow out any candle that crosses its path

 

[T90TankGuy]

@Windjammer and I are brothers in it

Good for you

 

[janon]

I guess the Indian members have no other means to salvage themselves except repeatedly use the term 'obsession' as a scoring point....do enlighten me how copy pasting a news item from an Indian source can be termed as obsession, did i add any pov to the feature or demean the equipment like Indians never fail to do, be it the JF-17 or some Pakistani missile tests. Had i said that the IN can use the carrier for point defence or that in case of any misadventure, the MiGs can be escorted to a nearby Pakistani base.....then by all means, hunt in pack and take shots, until then, it's a defence forum and i will keep posting related matters regardless of the cheap banter from Indians just to satisfy their egos .

You know why only you are mocked for this India hating obsession, and not even the overtly hatred fille @Zarvan? Your posting history:

@Zarvan can say that he just pastes the news he sees. You cannot - you clearly post only one kind of news.

 

[GORKHALI]

Yes it's lodged on your mind as truth is hard to swallow. . keep repeating same, you will get to accept it...one day.

I still not able to understand, how on the earth you come up with this kind of story ? Seriously

 

[Windjammer]

You know why only you are mocked for this India hating obsession, and not even the overtly hatred fille @Zarvan? Your posting history:

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@Zarvan can say that he just pastes the news he sees. You cannot - you clearly post only one kind of news.

Allow me to enlighten you with what's obsession, beginning of the month, Pakistan tested it's ALCM, a system that's been tested before but just read through it, 30 pages of heartburn and butthurt comments from your country fellows, and unlike Indian members, Pakistani members don't have the obsessive nature to hunt in packs and cover their shortcomings.
Pakistan Succesful Test Fired Hatf-VIII Ra'ad ALCM

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

Rafale fighters can land on Aircraft with Single Engine.


US, France, UK practice aerial strikes in time with feeble sanctions against Iran

The low deterrent effect of the sanctions against Iran adopted by the UN Security Council Wednesday, June 9 were manifest from the moment they attained Russian and Chinese endorsement. But its passage in New York found US and French bombers in the middle of a unique exercise simulating a marine force attack on ground targets with close air support.

US and French bombers took off from each other's aircraft carriers, the USS Harry S. Truman and the Charles de Gaulle, while the British planes flew in from their bases in England. Together, they practiced their strike capabilities in a real war. The Caniuers training facility near Toulon stood in for an Iranian target.

Rear Admiral Henri Bobin, commander of the French Fleet Air Arm, said the Charles de Gaulle is seen as a potential deterrent to Iran.

Thursday June 10, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and French Defense Minister Hervé Morin were scheduled to visit the French carrier just after it had spent 15 months in dry dock having its nuclear propulsion system refitted and other upgrades performed. French officers say the Charles de Gaulle' is now "more compatible" with US carriers the adaptation of its steam catapult launch and other systems for take-off and landing.

And indeed, debkafile's military sources report, French Navy F3 Rafale fighters capable of carrying nuclear-tipped ASMP/A missiles flew in from the French carrier and performed touch-and-go landings on the vast deck of the Truman, while American F/A 18/FSuper Hornets performed the same exercises on the French carrier.

In another part of the exercise, American crews for the first time flew French Super Etendard fighters, taking off and landing on the Charles de Gaulle, while French pilots landed American Super Hornets on the decks of the Truman before taking off again.
They also flew "intercepts" against each to test their systems and diversify their pilots' skills.

The simulated landing of a French Rafale F3 landing minus one engine on the Truman deck Friday, June 4, was a dramatic moment: the US carrier's workshops handled the replacement of the "damaged" engine with a new one - the first time that American mechanics had performed a job this complicated on a foreign aircraft, using tools sent over from the Charles de Gaulle.

US Rear Admiral Patrick Driscoll, commander of the American strike force, said the Rafale engine refit was a proof of concept intended to test the technical details of moving the French strike fighter around and below deck "in the precise choreography of carrier operations." This was in keeping with the exercise's catchword: "Interoperability."

The Rafele F3 with its nuclear-tipped ASMP/A is due to be declared operational by the first of July.

As part of the refitting of the US and French carriers for greater compatibility, debkafile's sources report three French E2C Hawkeye spy planes on the Charles de Gaulle were upgraded to the level of the radar aircraft of the same model carried by the Truman, including the replacement of their four-bladed propellers with a more reliable eight-blade version.

Our sources report that from its joint exercise with the French Fleet and the British air force, the Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group was due to leave French waters and head for the Arabian Sea opposite Pakistan and Iran via the Suez Canal. It will be stationed therefore for the next six months. Three of the group's destroyers will peel off on route for anti-piracy patrol off the Somali coast.

 

[vsdave2302]

Barely a week after Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar witnessed the ongoing theatre-level naval exercise TROPEX-15 on board the newly acquired INS Vikramaditya , reliable information suggests that the aircraft carrier’s operation is crippled, owing to issues with its integral fleet of MiG-29K fighter jets.

Nearly 30 of the RD-33MK engines powering the twin-engine MiG-29K aircraft attached to the ‘Black Panther’ squadron have packed up ever since aviation activities got under way from the deck of the refurbished Soviet-era carrier that was inducted into the Indian Navy in Russia in November, 2013.

“The Naval fighter carries out high-speed landing by hooking on to any of the arrester wires stretched across the flight deck. In case it fails to hook, it should take off all over again. If an engine fails during flight, the fighter is forced to do a single-engine landing. But its power to take off just in case the arrester wires are missed is suspect. Therefore, the carrier doesn’t operate too far away from the shores,” a source said.

In other words, Vikramaditya remains tethered to the region — forced to operate within a 200 nautical mile radius of Karwar with an airfield in the vicinity, said a naval veteran familiar with the development.

Training still on

A senior officer, however, said flying operations and training of Indian naval pilots from the deck ofVikramaditya were being done in a phased manner.

“The aircraft is just too good and has a very powerful engine. To allay the fears of pilots, we have asked Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG to prove single-engine landing of MiG-29 K on board the Russian carrier Admiral Kuznetsov. This will happen in a fortnight,” the officer said.

As many as 21 of the 45 MiG 29K fighters ordered by the Navy have been delivered so far. Of these, some 13 have been accepted after trials.

The public sector aviation major Hindustan Aeronautics Limited has proposed to put in place requisite infrastructure at its Koraput unit for carrying out maintenance and overhaul of the RD33 MK engines powering the MiG 29K aircraft.
INS Vikramaditya’s operation crippled - The Hindu

Minor issue. Lot more serious issues have been overcome in past.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Well we are asking for the OEM to demonstrate the capability to do an emergency landing and take off with just a single engine...I think this is too much.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Well we are asking for the OEM to demonstrate the capability to do an emergency landing and take off with just a single engine...I think this is too much.

Too much in what regard?